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mkat · 03-04-2007, 01:35 AM

cowboys need to look at trading Julius Jones for Henry out of TN.

Five-ofan · 03-04-2007, 01:57 AM

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cowboys need to look at trading Julius Jones for Henry out of TN.

ummm... not even a little.

mkat · 03-04-2007, 02:26 AM

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ummm... not even a little.

aside from madden 07, jj isn't great. i've never seen an RB who runs into the back of his lineman and falls down more than jj. he seems to have NO field vision.

Five-ofan · 03-04-2007, 02:46 AM

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aside from madden 07, jj isn't great. i've never seen an RB who runs into the back of his lineman and falls down more than jj. he seems to have NO field vision.

i dont think jj is great but that would only be valid if henry was great which he isnt. jj is younger and just as good.

dirno2000 · 03-04-2007, 03:16 AM

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cowboys need to look at trading Julius Jones for Henry out of TN.

The Titans cut Henry today.

jthig32 · 03-04-2007, 10:20 AM

Cowboys are signing Davis:

The Dallas Cowboys are finalizing an agreement with free agent offensive lineman Leonard Davis, the second pick in the 2001 NFL draft who has played the last six seasons for the Arizona Cardinals.
Davis, 6-feet-6, 366 pounds, is expected to play either right tackle or right guard for the Cowboys, depending on the resolution of contract talks with current Cowboys right tackle Marc Columbo, an unrestricted free agent the Cowboys hope to re-sign.
Davis' contract is expected to exceed the free agent deals of Bills guard Derrick Dockery (7 years, $49 million) and Browns guard Eric Steinbach (7 years, $49.5 million).
Davis visted the Washington Redskins and was considering a visit to the New York Giants, but decided on the Cowboys due to a desire to stay close to his hometown of Wortham, Texas, just south of Dallas.
Davis was an All-America tackle at the University of Texas, and played his first three seasons at guard for the Cardinals before switching to tackle the last three seasons.

That's a lot of cash if it's going to exceed those two contracts....

jayC · 03-04-2007, 11:13 PM

The Star telegram alos reported that Martin Grammatica would sign with the team on Monday.

Joey Porter would be a great fit with Demarcus Ware and Greg Ellis. The Cowboys also need a free safety.

Male30Dan · 03-05-2007, 12:01 AM

A lot of stuff to do!

K - Sign Gramatica
FS - Sign Grant/Hamlin/Cincy Guy/Draft one
CB - Move Henry to FS and sign/draft a CB to man with Newman
RT - Re-sign Colombo
RG - Cut/Trade Rivera or keep and let Colombo walk while putting Davis at RT - (mistake)
WR - Re-sign Crayton
LB - Decide on Porter and if we sign him, determine if he is inside or out, (if inside, who leaves; if outside does Ware move to strong side or does Porter after thriving at weak)
Draft

Fun offseason!

Ninkobei · 03-05-2007, 05:02 AM

a 366 pound right tackle? isnt he a bit heavy for that position? if JJ had trouble running into his lineman before..now I wonder how bad his problem will be

Male30Dan · 03-05-2007, 08:46 AM

He wasn't signed to play RT, but he can if Colombo walks.

Dtownsfinest · 03-05-2007, 10:27 AM

You know its hard to get a view of how good a offensive lineman is from the viewpoint of a television. But I do know he's always in the 88-92 range so he must be good right lol? But really how good is he? I've always heard he's been a underachiever. And Edgerian James did everything but impress as running back last year for the Cardinals.

Offensive line definately needed to be upgraded but i'd like to see us get a Free Saftey or a corner if we plan on moving Henry to Free Safety.

Murphy3 · 03-05-2007, 01:47 PM

He's an underachiever that's still just a notch below being a pro bowler ...but with the capability of earning his way to Hawaii year in and year out.

At the least, he's a productive starter. So, hopefully playing back in Texas will motivate him to take his game up that extra notch that he's obviously capable of.

I know that I've been disappointed with what he's accomplished, but I do believe he's capable of playing at a higher level more consistently.

Male30Dan · 03-05-2007, 02:29 PM

He will have his family in the stands each game along with several friends I am sure, (Wortham is a hop, skip, and a jump from Irving). Hopefully that will help motivate him. He is also playing for what I am sure was the team he always rooted for growing up. Surely there is some pride at stake and that will help push this BIGG dude!

snoop · 03-05-2007, 02:51 PM

The boys also need a good backup qb in the worst of ways

mkat · 03-05-2007, 03:01 PM

i think it would be hard for even the most motivated player to play very well on the disappointing cardinals team.

dirno2000 · 03-05-2007, 03:20 PM

Like most here, I don't watch the Cardnials on a weekly basis. I do know that a couple of years back we played them in the pre-season then later at Texas Stadium and he totally engulfed Demarcus Ware. Ware would rush him and just dissappear. If he gets his hands on you it's over. The question is, can he handle the speed rushers at tackle and, can he get to the second level if he has to play guard.

Male30Dan · 03-05-2007, 03:23 PM

Gramatica (sp?) signed to a 2 year deal, financial specifics unknown!

Male30Dan · 03-05-2007, 03:25 PM

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The question is, can he handle the speed rushers at tackle and, can he get to the second level if he has to play guard.

Yes and No. He was a damn fine guard in Arizona but he just can NOT handle speed rushers at LT. RT would be a lot easier for him and he might just succeed there, but LT simply is not an option for this man.

Male30Dan · 03-05-2007, 03:26 PM

Brad Johnson is supposed to be at Valley Ranch today. Anyone hear anything on this? He is ancient, (39), but would be a solid backup with plenty of experience should the unthinkable happen.

Five-ofan · 03-05-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

Like most here, I don't watch the Cardnials on a weekly basis. I do know that a couple of years back we played them in the pre-season then later at Texas Stadium and he totally engulfed Demarcus Ware. Ware would rush him and just dissappear. If he gets his hands on you it's over. The question is, can he handle the speed rushers at tackle and, can he get to the second level if he has to play guard.

he can play lt if its needed. Honestly he can play anywhere but center and be at least solid. Hed be an upgrade at rt over columbo though i think as a whole the oline would be better if they keep columbo and move him to rg assuming they dont try to move him back to lt. Hes a very nice pickup.

dirno2000 · 03-05-2007, 04:13 PM

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Yes and No. He was a damn fine guard in Arizona but he just can NOT handle speed rushers at LT. RT would be a lot easier for him and he might just succeed there, but LT simply is not an option for this man.

Well hopefully he'll get on our off-season program and lose a couple of pounds. He wouldn't have been the second pick in the draft if he didn't have good feet.

I want Columbo back but I'm not sure if Jerry wants to pay him what the market may dictate.

Five-ofan · 03-05-2007, 04:40 PM

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Well hopefully he'll get on our off-season program and lose a couple of pounds. He wouldn't have been the second pick in the draft if he didn't have good feet.

I want Columbo back but I'm not sure if Jerry wants to pay him what the market may dictate.

hes not signifigantly overweight. he ran a 5.2 if i remember correctly at 365 when he was at the combine. Not that 40 times are all that important but hes a great athlete and his size is important because its what makes him so dominant when he touches you. Now could he still be that dominant at 350? sure but i dont think its a huge deal that he drops weight.

Five-ofan · 03-05-2007, 05:02 PM

fyi, hes given up 4 sacks in 2 years as a lt. its his best position. He handles speed rushers just fine.

Male30Dan · 03-05-2007, 05:28 PM

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fyi, hes given up 4 sacks in 2 years as a lt. its his best position. He handles speed rushers just fine.

Oh my dear Lord. Wow...

Just consider yourself in such the minority that you can hear crickets where that opinion came from.

But I know... I know... Your right!

Kirobaito · 03-05-2007, 07:25 PM

ESPN is reporting that the Cowboys have signed veteran QB Brad Johnson to a 3-year deal to be Tony Romo's backup.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788983

TheBlueVan · 03-05-2007, 07:36 PM

3 years is wayyyy too long

Male30Dan · 03-05-2007, 08:42 PM

Wow...
Wow!

Male30Dan · 03-05-2007, 08:51 PM

3.5 million for a BACKUP QB that is 39 and he is signed for 3 years??? Again, Wow!

What is the bonus in that first year? If this is essentially a 1 year contract with all of his bonus money up front and no risk from there, I guess it isn't half bad considering one Romo injury kills your season. I don't know next to Green and maybe Huard if I would prefer anyone else! I guess hit our cap when we have it to hit!

Five-ofan · 03-05-2007, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Male23Dan

Oh my dear Lord. Wow...

Just consider yourself in such the minority that you can hear crickets where that opinion came from.

But I know... I know... Your right!

i am right. he handles speed rushers just fine. his strength is PASS blocking not run blocking despite the normal thinking that it would be the other way around. hes better off as a tackle than a guard.

TomThaMavsFan · 03-06-2007, 12:00 AM

i hear the giants cut arrington, and porter's still out there, anyone think the cowboys will go after either of them?

LonestarROB · 03-06-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirobaito

ESPN is reporting that the Cowboys have signed veteran QB Brad Johnson to a 3-year deal to be Tony Romo's backup.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788983

Called it.

Male30Dan · 03-06-2007, 07:59 AM

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i am right. he handles speed rushers just fine. his strength is PASS blocking not run blocking despite the normal thinking that it would be the other way around. hes better off as a tackle than a guard.

OK.

jthig32 · 03-06-2007, 09:03 AM

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i am right. he handles speed rushers just fine. his strength is PASS blocking not run blocking despite the normal thinking that it would be the other way around. hes better off as a tackle than a guard.

So every single analyst says the exact opposite, and you feel that you watch enough Cardinals games to know better?

I dunno man...that's some strange thinking.

Male30Dan · 03-06-2007, 11:54 AM

Amen... Cricket, Cricket, Cricket...

dirno2000 · 03-06-2007, 12:52 PM

Norm had a disturbing stat this morning...21 false starts over the past two years.

Five-ofan · 03-06-2007, 01:03 PM

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So every single analyst says the exact opposite, and you feel that you watch enough Cardinals games to know better?

I dunno man...that's some strange thinking.

yep, pretty much the same way all the draft gurus said Fasano was a good blocker and i felt i watched enough of him play to know otherwise.

jthig32 · 03-06-2007, 01:06 PM

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yep, pretty much the same way all the draft gurus said Fasano was a good blocker and i felt i watched enough of him play to know otherwise.

Everyone can watch Notre Dame play. I can believe that.

Tell us honestly how many Arizona Cardinals games you've watched the past four season.

Male30Dan · 03-06-2007, 01:34 PM

He saw the one where Davis did a great job against Ware because Ware tries to bull rush you rather than put moves on you. If davis gets his hands on you, its over. The problem with him is elusive speed rushers that he has to really move for and never gets a strong hold on.

Male30Dan · 03-06-2007, 01:34 PM

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Norm had a disturbing stat this morning...21 false starts over the past two years.

Man... And we thought Flo was bad!

Five-ofan · 03-06-2007, 03:08 PM

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Everyone can watch Notre Dame play. I can believe that.

Tell us honestly how many Arizona Cardinals games you've watched the past four season.

2, 4, 5, 9. I watched so many last year because of my fantasy teams(i had warner, leinart, james, boldin and fitz on various teams at various times.) He was GREAT last year. You can make an argument that he was a contract year player if you want but he was flat out dominant last year.

As for ware, i didnt take much from that because there really isnt anyone else that rushes like ware that i can think of. Ware is really fast but he mostly tries to use his speed as a momentum boost to just give himself more power to run over people. Obviously that wouldnt work against big. It was nice to see if your a fan of big but its not really anything to hang your hat on.

You guys will be pleasantly suprised with him if he plays lt. Im a bit scared of him as an rt though. I thought he would be an upgrade but the more i think about it, the only times ive really seen him struggle were at rt.