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JeffViggiano · 09-03-2013, 08:21 PM

suns release beasley...

EricaLubarsky · 09-03-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffViggiano

suns release beasley...

If you want another Lamar Odom druggy headcase, then he's your man.

Younger, cheaper but just as talented and bat-shit crazy.

spreedom · 09-03-2013, 10:59 PM

Cool Beas as talented as Odom? Not sure I'm on board with that one. I hate Odom's (the player) guts but he is a lot more talented than Beasley.

JeffViggiano · 09-04-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

If you want another Lamar Odom druggy headcase, then he's your man.

Younger, cheaper but just as talented and bat-shit crazy.

at the vet minimun and from the bench...yes i would try beasy.

spreedom · 09-04-2013, 11:56 AM

I wouldn't let Beasley into training camp, let alone any sort of guaranteed contract. I wouldn't let him play for us if he paid Dirk's salary.

muzak · 09-05-2013, 11:18 AM

Seriously; a "druggy"? Hasn't Beasley only ever been busted with pot? Just had to chime in on that absurdity.

note: this is not an endorsement for Beasley.

SMC0007 · 09-05-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by muzak

Seriously; a "druggy"? Hasn't Beasley only ever been busted with pot? Just had to chime in on that absurdity.

note: this is not an endorsement for Beasley.

But it is an endorsement for weeeeed man!! Yeah!

Legalize it!

EricaLubarsky · 09-05-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by muzak

Seriously; a "druggy"? Hasn't Beasley only ever been busted with pot? Just had to chime in on that absurdity.

note: this is not an endorsement for Beasley.

caught with is one thing, but being from AZ, I've heard about a lot of knuckle-headed things he's done. Some of which involved drugs, some involved alcohol and some were just incredible stupidity-- the kind that Lamar Odom showed when he was here (when he was on drugs). The Suns busted buns to cover for him despite it, but their line from the presser was very telling,

"We worked hard to devote ourselves to Michael’s sucess but we have to maintain the standards to build a championship culture" [sic]

So when we hear reports of near-DUIs, drug interventions and other things in the local blogosphere and hear reports like that, it does look bad. I won't say it's heroin or hard drugs, but the dude has a substance abuse problem that is somewhere between Josh Howard's stoned apathy and Lamar Odom's flat-out self-destructive tendencies.

FreshJive · 09-05-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

caught with is one thing, but being from AZ, I've heard about a lot of knuckle-headed things he's done. Some of which involved drugs, some involved alcohol and some were just incredible stupidity-- the kind that Lamar Odom showed when he was here (when he was on drugs). The Suns busted buns to cover for him despite it, but their line from the presser was very telling,

"We worked hard to devote ourselves to Michael’s sucess but we have to maintain the standards to build a championship culture" [sic]

So when we hear reports of near-DUIs, drug interventions and other things in the local blogosphere and hear reports like that, it does look bad. I won't say it's heroin or hard drugs, but the dude has a substance abuse problem that is somewhere between Josh Howard's stoned apathy and Lamar Odom's flat-out self-destructive tendencies.

Yeah, it's not quite clear what drugs were actually found in his car. He was arrested on "suspicion" of possession of marijuana, and the article I read said they found narcotics, but they didn't specify if the narcotics were pot. If it was weed rather than some other drug, I would think that he would be charged with possession rather than suspicion. Maybe they can't charge him with possession of the other substance because the reason he was searching the car was for the weed he smelled.

From USA today:
"The most recent legal issue intervened and that was the end of it," Babby said, referring to the Aug. 6 arrest on suspicion of marijuana possession after the officer smelled marijuana in his car on a traffic stop. Scottsdale police found narcotics in the driver's seat area of Beasley's vehicle.

EricaLubarsky · 09-07-2013, 12:38 AM

24 days to media day.
25 days to first practice.
31 days to preseason opener.

DGM · 09-07-2013, 05:55 PM

tooooo sloooow

sike · 09-09-2013, 07:33 AM

I'm so hungry to see Dirk, Calderon, and Ellis on the floor together.

Underdog · 09-10-2013, 04:01 PM

For those of you who wanted the Mavs to draft him last year - this could be our chance to make up for taking Cunningham instead!

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Fab Melo invited to Mavs camp

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The Dallas Mavericks' ongoing search for a bargain big man has led them to invite the recently released Fab Melo to training camp, according to sources close to the situation.

Sources told ESPN.com on Tuesday that the Mavericks have struck a training camp deal with Melo, who was traded from Boston to Memphis after his rookie season with the Celtics and then waived by the Grizzlies in August, two weeks after they acquired him.

The Mavericks spent much of July chasing Greg Oden as a minimum-salary backup to new starting center Samuel Dalembert, but Oden opted to sign with the two-time champs from Miami instead. Yet the sudden availability of Melo gave Dallas an opportunity to roll the dice on the No. 22 overall pick from the 2012 draft, who wound up spending much of his rookie season in the D-League.

Melo averaged 9.8 points, 6.0 rebounds and a league-best 3.1 blocks in 26.2 minutes per game for the D-League's Maine Red Claws last season. The fact that the 7-footer from Brazil went unclaimed on waivers after Memphis let him go late last month, as a former first-round pick barely one year removed from the draft, nonetheless makes it clear that questions persist about Melo's on-court development and work ethic.

The Grizzlies took on Melo in an early August trade with Boston with no real intent to keep him. The payoff for Memphis was creating a trade exception by sending Donte Greene to the Celtics in the deal and receiving nearly $1.7 million in cash from Boston to cover Melo's $1.3 million salary in 2013-14.

DirkFTW · 09-10-2013, 04:19 PM

Can't believe we got Melo!!!!!!11!!

DevinHarriswillstart · 09-10-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

For those of you who wanted the Mavs to draft him last year - this could be our chance to make up for taking Cunningham instead!

I really like that the Mavs are filling needs this summer. He most likely won't make it to the regular season roster, but it doesn't hurt to see what he can do preseason.

EricaLubarsky · 09-10-2013, 08:21 PM

20 days to media day
21 days to first practice.
27 days to preseason opener.

yahyes · 09-10-2013, 11:25 PM

All I'd really want from Fab Melo are rebounds.

SMC0007 · 09-11-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by yahyes

All I'd really want from Fab Melo are rebounds.

You don't like blocked shots?

Eman · 09-11-2013, 10:11 AM

Never upset about a first round pick for free. Give Melo a chance. He's young and hasn't played bball for very long. May be better than Sarge, our second rounder a year ago.

EricaLubarsky · 09-11-2013, 10:50 AM

http://www.nba.com/reportcard/offsea...cks/index.html

Offseason report card put out by NBA.com (although interestingly enough there is no name credits).

We get a C. The worst hit? Calderon/Ellis hate. I won't say they'll be spectacular, but the idea that Harris will outplay both of them seems a little nuts.

Only respect we got was for having Carlisle as a coach and a begrudging admission that we have Dirk.

Spurs/Heat get As for doing nothing.

Underdog · 09-11-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

http://www.nba.com/reportcard/offsea...cks/index.html

Offseason report card put out by NBA.com (although interestingly enough there is no name credits).

We get a C. The worst hit? Calderon/Ellis hate. I won't say they'll be spectacular, but the idea that Harris will outplay both of them seems a little nuts.

Only respect we got was for having Carlisle as a coach and a begrudging admission that we have Dirk.

Spurs/Heat get As for doing nothing.

They talked about Calderon as a "bench player" too - kinda hard to care about the opinions of someone who doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.

yahyes · 09-11-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

You don't like blocked shots?

Don't wanna be too greedy on what to want from Melo. Although even to use him as a garbage man would benefit against bigger teams.

Melonhead · 09-11-2013, 07:20 PM

So i take it Carmichael didnt get an invite? Ive been out of the loop for a month or so

EricaLubarsky · 09-11-2013, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

So i take it Carmichael didnt get an invite? Ive been out of the loop for a month or so

Unfortunately not. Looks like we signed a couple of stiffs and going to look at Melo before sending him to our D-league affiliate.

NeedlesKane · 09-12-2013, 07:41 AM

I read an article stating that the Mavs added 3 players to their roster for training camp, making it 17 in total. Shouldn't it be 18? With Fab Melo, Richard McConnell, and D.J. Kennedy added to a roster of what I believed to have consisted of 15 players I don't get why they said we had only 17.

Are they not including Devin Harris since he is recovering from his surgery? If they like what they see from Fab Melo do you think they'll waive Bernard James, or will it be another player?

EricaLubarsky · 09-12-2013, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

I read an article stating that the Mavs added 3 players to their roster for training camp, making it 17 in total. Shouldn't it be 18? With Fab Melo, Richard McConnell, and D.J. Kennedy added to a roster of what I believed to have consisted of 15 players I don't get why they said we had only 17.

Are they not including Devin Harris since he is recovering from his surgery? If they like what they see from Fab Melo do you think they'll waive Bernard James, or will it be another player?

We're currently at 18. I don't know about the timeline of Melo, but he could have signed after all the announcements and confused the author. Mavs social media burst just said 18 and I'd trust them to know.

And Harris signed a contract, had a presser and he's here this year. Injury matters for active roster, but don't impact max roster size.

Dirk's Knee · 09-12-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

http://www.nba.com/reportcard/offsea...cks/index.html

Offseason report card put out by NBA.com (although interestingly enough there is no name credits).

We get a C. The worst hit? Calderon/Ellis hate. I won't say they'll be spectacular, but the idea that Harris will outplay both of them seems a little nuts.

Only respect we got was for having Carlisle as a coach and a begrudging admission that we have Dirk.

Spurs/Heat get As for doing nothing.

Weird, the grade isn't for what they did in the offseason but more of a preseason power ranking. And from that angle, you have to score Miami and SA high due to last season's performance. That said, pretty sure Wade is going to miss a significant number of games and numbers down across the board. With the expectation that Wade will be of limited effectiveness by the time the playoffs roll around and the trouble Miami had with Indiana/SA, I don't like their chances for a 3-peat.

NeedlesKane · 09-12-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

We're currently at 18. I don't know about the timeline of Melo, but he could have signed after all the announcements and confused the author. Mavs social media burst just said 18 and I'd trust them to know.

And Harris signed a contract, had a presser and he's here this year. Injury matters for active roster, but don't impact max roster size.

I was just thinking that maybe the author was referring to the preseason roster. Then that would make sense since Devin Harris will not be a member of the team. With that being said I would also question if our rookie, Shane Larkin, will be a member of the preseason roster.

spreedom · 09-13-2013, 04:32 PM

Mavs signed Devin Ebanks:

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...f-devin-ebanks

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Mavs sign F Devin Ebanks

The Mavericks signed forward Devin Ebanks to a non-guaranteed deal, essentially inviting him to training camp.

The 6-foot-9 Ebanks played three seasons for the Los Angeles Lakers after being selected with the 43rd overall pick in the 2010 draft. He has career averages of 3.6 points and 1.9 rebounds in 63 games.

The addition of Ebanks gives the Mavs 19 players under contract, including 15 with guaranteed deals.

I assume he's a training camp body/casualty, like McConnell, Kennedy and Fab Melo. But he's an athlete and is pretty comparable to Jae Crowder as a defender.

spreedom · 09-13-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

http://www.nba.com/reportcard/offsea...cks/index.html

Offseason report card put out by NBA.com (although interestingly enough there is no name credits).

We get a C. The worst hit? Calderon/Ellis hate. I won't say they'll be spectacular, but the idea that Harris will outplay both of them seems a little nuts.

Only respect we got was for having Carlisle as a coach and a begrudging admission that we have Dirk.

Spurs/Heat get As for doing nothing.

Also, the writer seems to think that we added Calderon as a backup. I don't disagree that our offseason was disappointing from the perspective of a team that was hoping to sign Dwight, but if you can get past the fact that we didn't get him, our offseason went about as well as we could have hoped for, short of another team gift-wrapping a Gortat type of player to us.

EricaLubarsky · 09-13-2013, 04:39 PM

Ebanks is a decent defender. He wanted to be Antawn Jamison last season which was a pretty big failure because he's lacking on offense, but he defended well and has pretty good mobility. It will be nice to watch him body-up and try to defend Wright, Dirk and Blair.

I like that we are going in with some shooters and defenders so we can have some tough scrimmages. It's going to be a competitive year, particularly in the backcourt so it will be nice to start fighting hard on day one. Only guy that may get a look of our camp bodies is Melo, but each one is either a defender or a guy that can nail a jumper to make the opposing team cover ground on defense.

yahyes · 09-13-2013, 05:42 PM

So, maybe Ebanks could be competing for Crowder's PT.

EricaLubarsky · 09-13-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by yahyes

So, maybe Ebanks could be competing for Crowder's PT.

Really doubtful. one is a 7th-9th man. The other is a camp body to scrimmage against. One the team is high on and under contract. The other has the summer league equivalent of a 10-day contract.

Murphy3 · 09-14-2013, 07:30 PM

It's definitely possible that Harris could perform better than Calderon and Ellis..

sig · 09-14-2013, 08:26 PM

IMO, the bottom of the Mavs roster has pretty low bar for cracking. There is a lot of players sitting on that bar including Crowder who not all that highly paid. Using a boxing analogy, Melo and Ebanks will probably have to deliver a clear knockout to steal a roster spot but it keeps the players on the low bar looking over their shoulder.

IMO, Ebanks probably has a bit more upside than Corwder but has probably stunted his development by leaving college early whereas Crowder stayed. I see Crowder more at the top of the 10-15 range battling Ellington for Devin's minutes until Devin returns. I can also see Melo battiling Sarge and Blair for a spot but coming up short.

EricaLubarsky · 09-14-2013, 10:07 PM

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I see Crowder more at the top of the 10-15 range battling Ellington for Devin's minutes until Devin returns.

You know that Crowder plays the 3/4 right? He didn't play a single minute at the 2 and Harris is a 1/2.

EricaLubarsky · 09-15-2013, 12:46 PM

15 days to media day
16 days to first practice.
22 days to preseason opener.

sig · 09-15-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

You know that Crowder plays the 3/4 right? He didn't play a single minute at the 2 and Harris is a 1/2.

Yes but VC can play the 2 or the 3. So if it is ellington, VC plays the 3. If crowder then VC plays the 2.

Murphy3 · 09-16-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sig

Yes but VC can play the 2 or the 3. So if it is ellington, VC plays the 3. If crowder then VC plays the 2.

So you're saying that when you have guys that play multiple positions, even though two guys don't play the same position..one guy getting more time at one spot might still impact that other player at a different positions minutes?

Don't confuse Erica..

grndmstr_c · 09-16-2013, 11:41 AM

With the possible exception of Sarge, I don't think there's anybody on the Mavs with a guaranteed contract for next season who has to worry even a little about losing his roster spot to a camp invitee.