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rimrocker · 07-12-2015, 07:07 PM

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Blair is just too short.

Completely agree but Rick seems to love him.

rimrocker · 07-12-2015, 07:13 PM

Cuban said during the Pelican's game they need a pick-n-roll guy so I doubt any big lumbering centers will be signed or traded for.

Someone with some athleticism is what they are probably looking for and that pretty much leaves Hollins, Dalembert and McGee.

Wright would have been perfect and would probably be here if it wasn't for that goofy LA flake screwing up our chances of signing anyone decent.

NeedlesKane · 07-12-2015, 07:53 PM

As long as Pachulia plays better than Erick Dampier did in his latter seasons here in Dallas I think we're fine. It's a shame that the Mavericks front office has been too stupid to realize that they had a good thing going when they had Tyson Chandler.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-12-2015, 08:45 PM

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I would stay away from Nene and Pek. First of all they both have big salaries... and Nene looks about done. He looked pitiful in the playoffs this year and is a poor rebounder. Pekovic would be a bad fit next to Dirk and he's constantly injured.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pi/shareit/nnzEj

Pek is the 10th worst big 6'11 or taller in terms of DBPM since 1973-74

Mcgee is actually waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of him if you go to the bottom of the list in that link. However I want to stress that Mcgee has not been the same for the last 2 years due to injuries more than likely. Who knows though, maybe a flyer on him and hope our medical staff who is already apparently working on half our starting lineup can go ahead and add another.

Kanter is worse than CV3 on defense

purplefrog · 07-12-2015, 09:43 PM

Henry Sims? One of the many big men for the 76ers last year. Played college ball at Georgetown and averaged 19 mpg for Philly. Don't know much about him, but the 76ers did not give him a qualifying offer so he is unrestricted. Averaged 8 pts and 4.9 rebounds per game. He would definitely be a back-up to ZaZa. Another intriguing possibility from Philly would be the newly acquired Jason Thompson. There is such a logjam with bigs for Philly it is possible they will be listening to offers. They have no veteran PGs on their team (as far as I can tell), so Felton for Thompson?

mavs777 · 07-12-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pi/shareit/nnzEj

Pek is the 10th worst big 6'11 or taller in terms of DBPM since 1973-74

Mcgee is actually waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of him if you go to the bottom of the list in that link. However I want to stress that Mcgee has not been the same for the last 2 years due to injuries more than likely. Who knows though, maybe a flyer on him and hope our medical staff who is already apparently working on half our starting lineup can go ahead and add another.

Kanter is worse than CV3 on defense

Pek actually grades above average in DRPM by espn's metric, think BR focuses too much on the box score stats and not enough on +/- aspect. Pek is a poor rim protector but pretty good defender outside of that, smart guy. But his contract with his injury= no thanks. Wizards aren't dealing nene.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-12-2015, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Pek actually grades above average in DRPM by espn's metric, think BR focuses too much on the box score stats and not enough on +/- aspect. Pek is a poor rim protector but pretty good defender outside of that, smart guy. But his contract with his injury= no thanks. Wizards aren't dealing nene.

I'm not familiar as familiar with the ESPN metric but at least that metric is extremely favorable to Zaza so it's very encouraging. He's 7th amongst all Centers in DRPM(TC was 5th) and 2nd in RPM(TC was 3rd).

FreshJive · 07-12-2015, 11:18 PM

Shams Charania – ‏@ShamsCharania

The Dallas Mavericks have opened discussions on a potential deal with free agent 7-footer JaVale McGee, league sources tell RealGM.

Melonhead · 07-12-2015, 11:31 PM

BG says only exploratory conversations now, nothing imminent.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-12-2015, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Shams Charania – ‏@ShamsCharania

The Dallas Mavericks have opened discussions on a potential deal with free agent 7-footer JaVale McGee, league sources tell RealGM.

We won't even know he's there on defense that is.

FreshJive · 07-12-2015, 11:48 PM

Fish has been saying that there is supposedly a mystery man center that the Mavs are targeting their cap space with (a trade I'm assuming, it's an insider article), so I'm guessing that they want McGee for the min that they were offering Seraphin.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-13-2015, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Fish has been saying that there is supposedly a mystery man center that the Mavs are targeting their cap space with (a trade I'm assuming, it's an insider article), so I'm guessing that they want McGee for the min that they were offering Seraphin.

Interesting, I wonder who it could be. I probably shouldn't get my hopes up that OKC in a salary dump type move would give us one of their like 5 bigs in the deal, and yet I am going to do just that.

BigDog63 · 07-13-2015, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

Withey would be nice for a project but don't see him doing much for us this season. Dalembert would be nice with the right attitude. And Hollins is a good change of pace with Zaza but I thought he left on bad terms.

Something tells me Blair will be on our roster at some point this season addressing that problem though.

Dalembert played pretty good the second half of his season here, and would certainly seem to be a very viable second center.

Would like to see Blair again, but not sure as a second option, but part of a threesome.

BigDog63 · 07-13-2015, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Kanter is worse than CV3 on defense

Heard that Kanter received 4 years $70M match from Thunder. Which leaves only 1 question. Why???

Maybe the Matthews contract isn't so bad....

Bryan_Wilson · 07-13-2015, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDog63

Heard that Kanter received 4 years $70M match from Thunder. Which leaves only 1 question. Why???

Maybe the Matthews contract isn't so bad....

I think OKC is all in to try and show Durant they will do anything possible to keep putting talent around him so he doesn't bolt next year.

FreshJive · 07-13-2015, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Interesting, I wonder who it could be. I probably shouldn't get my hopes up that OKC in a salary dump type move would give us one of their like 5 bigs in the deal, and yet I am going to do just that.

I'm with you. The OKC owner has shown to be budget conscious, given the market he is working in. To his credit he matched the Kanter offer despite making the Harden mistake. It would seem reasonable that when he decided to keep Kanter, the idea was to dump one of his other bigs. I hope it's porn stache, but will take Collison.

Thukydides · 07-13-2015, 04:27 AM

Yeah give me some Javale.. it´s low risk (just kick him out, if he´s not behaving) and possibly of high reward.

If RC gets him to buy in and roll to the hoop hard, man that would be something.. this guy is hyper-athletic; just look at this reel, these are quite some highlights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iia5J_hPqME

edit: and there are some smarts move in there too (he doesn´t seem to be completely dumb)

tap2390 · 07-13-2015, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Thukydides

edit: and there are some smarts move in there too (he doesn´t seem to be completely dumb)

Might be the nicest thing anyone's ever said about Javale McGee.

Underdog · 07-13-2015, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Sanders is basically Ricky Williams and is off looking for some type of personal peace or whatever.

Larry Sanders was supposed to be the next big thing -- a monster defender/shot blocker who was putting up 12/10 per-36 before he walked away from the game. Can't really think of a better "available" player for this team right now. Everything he does is everything we need.

I wonder if he has his head screwed on straight yet? Ricky Williams eventually returned to football...

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-13-2015, 09:53 AM

It must be posted again..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5RdCiKL290

Lestat_1795 · 07-13-2015, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It must be posted again..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5RdCiKL290

At least he is entertaining.

bigcat · 07-13-2015, 12:27 PM

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 5h5 hours ago
The Mavericks are in aggressive contract talks with free agent center JaVale McGee. (via Ft. Worth Star-Telegram)

Melonhead · 07-13-2015, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bigcat

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 5h5 hours ago
The Mavericks are in aggressive contract talks with free agent center JaVale McGee. (via Ft. Worth Star-Telegram)

How did it go from exploratory to aggressive? I'll wait on BG update

bunkmoreland · 07-13-2015, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

How did it go from exploratory to aggressive?

I believe lightsabers were drawn.

Kante · 07-13-2015, 01:32 PM

Stein:

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ESPN sources say Mavs' interest in JaVale McGee, to this point, more "exploratory." Yet rim protection/athleticism are certainly prime needs

FreshJive · 07-13-2015, 01:45 PM

Aggressive exploration.

mavs777 · 07-13-2015, 01:48 PM

want no part of javale

LSMF · 07-13-2015, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Aggressive exploration.

That's what she said? Perhaps?

DirkFTW · 07-13-2015, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bunkmoreland

I believe lightsabers were drawn.

Yikes, that only leaves 3D rendering...

howdoesmydirktaste · 07-13-2015, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It must be posted again..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5RdCiKL290

Um. I know it only shows his worst moments but damn. This guy is dumber than a rock.

Thukydides · 07-13-2015, 02:30 PM

come on, give that guy a chance.. to me there´s no doubt about prefering a dumb guy with potential over a drug-addict (Sanders) with potential.

bigcat · 07-13-2015, 03:00 PM

Poster lemonbrigade on mavsmoneyball provided a link to this article (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_22909147/just-being-javale), which paints a big picture of McGee.

Some quotes:
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He actually enjoys the joy ride that is ADD, now referred to as ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder), which leads to inattentiveness, over-activity and impulsivity, often in unhealthy doses.
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"If you left him in a first-grade class for an hour, who knows what you'd have when you got back? You might have a statue built out of desks and chairs," said Nuggets assistant coach Melvin Hunt. "And if you left him in a class at MIT, who knows?"
-"He's unique. You look at his physique, he's unique, and guys don't have that combination on the court, nor that combination off the court. He's witty, at the same time he's goofy, at the same time he's smart, at the same time he's silly. He can take you a lot of places."
-My thought watching him was that he's kind of a circus unto himself. He is acrobatic in a creative sense. What distinguishes the circus from gymnastics is this idea of creativity. This dude is just very creative with his physicality. He's able to move in ways you wouldn't expect him to move. He has this dynamism, especially for a guy that size. It's like, 'Wait a minute, he almost doesn't know how big he is.'
-He makes the easy play become hard and the hard play look easy
-Those who spend ample time around McGee insist he's actually quite smart. McGee said he had a 4.3 grade point average his senior year, on an advance placement scale. Hunt said McGee is well versed in current events and religion
-Nuggets coach George Karl said, "I sometimes wish I could take his human IQ and turn it into basketball IQ. That would be my only thing."

Melonhead · 07-13-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thukydides

come on, give that guy a chance.. to me there´s no doubt about prefering a dumb guy with potential over a drug-addict (Sanders) with potential.

drug addict? because he smokes weed. Id bet half the league smokes weed. Doesnt make someone a drug addict.

Hes stated in interviews his whole life doesnt revolve around a ball, and wants to accomplish other things in life

Bryan_Wilson · 07-13-2015, 03:38 PM

on the subject of Larry-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhnCna8DtEg

This was a while back but this doesn't look like a guy who was ready to come back anytime soon. I mean it's been what... maybe 5 months since this interview? I'd be shocked if he came back this year and I would not be surprised at all if he never came back.

GermanStandard · 07-13-2015, 04:57 PM

McGee is not only the dumbest player in recent history but hes also one of the most injury prone. Why would we add someone like that? I rather go for a Euro Prospect from Overseas like the Spurs just did with Marijanovic (who i think will be a great Center for years in the NBA).

Underdog · 07-13-2015, 05:20 PM

yahyes · 07-13-2015, 06:50 PM

I say get him and another center. Let's say Sam Dalembert.

NeedlesKane · 07-13-2015, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GermanStandard

McGee is not only the dumbest player in recent history but hes also one of the most injury prone. Why would we add someone like that? I rather go for a Euro Prospect from Overseas like the Spurs just did with Marijanovic (who i think will be a great Center for years in the NBA).

Mavs already attempted to go that route and were rejected when their guy took an offer to stay in Moscow.

MFFL · 07-13-2015, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

drug addict? because he smokes weed. Id bet half the league smokes weed.

I bet you're wrong

Its prob closer to 90%

bvbull200 · 07-13-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

drug addict? because he smokes weed. Id bet half the league smokes weed. Doesnt make someone a drug addict.

Hes stated in interviews his whole life doesnt revolve around a ball, and wants to accomplish other things in life

What a ridiculous stance to take.

People that just smoke weed aren't drug addicts, of course. Just like drinking whiskey doesn't automatically make someone an alcoholic.

He isn't a drug addict because he smokes weed. He is a drug addict because he is actually addicted to the substance.

People that aren't addicted don't have to "learn to live without" a particular substance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources...211317643.html