Rodrigue Beaubois development thread - Page 15 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

b_o_r · 12-17-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Maringa

Prediction: the moment we hear news that Roddy will be practicing and playing at a certain date, there will be a bunch of posts of "I hope he is not returning to play too soon, maybe he should wait until next year".

I wouldn't be opposed to shutting him down for the year if he isn't clear to play by a certain date.
Not to compare Roddy to Blake G, Blake was cleared to play in February (i think), but the Clippers shut him down for the year anyway.

Budapest Maverick · 12-17-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

I think I'll go with SMC definition. Thanks though.

Yeah, it was definitely funnier.

C'mon people don't be so doom and gloom. Nobody said anything about a possible missed year. He got injured, what, 4 months ago? It's a tricky injury, but not a serious one. There is nothing that would indicate he may have to miss the whole season. Even if he's only ready early februar, that's still not the end of the world, and should be enough time to get him ready. THe kid will be fine.

Budapest Maverick · 12-17-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

I wouldn't be opposed to shutting him down for the year if he isn't clear to play by a certain date.
Not to compare Roddy to Blake G, Blake was cleared to play in February (i think), but the Clippers shut him down for the year anyway.

He had a (semi)serious knee injury though.

JHT · 12-18-2010, 04:45 AM

I'm ready to give up.

If Roddy comes back and is useful fine, but I think we should all now begin to assume that he won't.

And I really think the Mavs should start dangling him for trade.

There's something seriously wrong here.

JHT · 12-18-2010, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick

Yeah, it was definitely funnier.

C'mon people don't be so doom and gloom. Nobody said anything about a possible missed year. He got injured, what, 4 months ago? It's a tricky injury, but not a serious one. There is nothing that would indicate he may have to miss the whole season. Even if he's only ready early februar, that's still not the end of the world, and should be enough time to get him ready. THe kid will be fine.

Going on 5 isn't it?

And when he was injured it was only supposed to be a 6 week injury.

And nearly 5 months in, still no timetable at all for when he'll return. They just keep saying 2 weeks and they've been saying that for 4 months.

At what point do we become stupid as fans for NOT being doom and gloom? Clearly they're hiding something.

dalger · 12-18-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JHT

I'm ready to give up.

If Roddy comes back and is useful fine, but I think we should all now begin to assume that he won't.

And I really think the Mavs should start dangling him for trade.

There's something seriously wrong here.

I think I just read something that could be even more wrong than Roddy's injury. And I'm not even going into your numbers logic in the second post. Someone else might want to exploit it and send you back to the drawing board...

Roddy's healing process is far from perfect and something to worry about, particularly due to the lack of status updates. However, unless we hear otherwise, there's absolutely no reason to call it a season because of a broken foot in December.

Why being overly pessimistic when there's actually zero evidence (or even a hint) that he'll be out for the season? Roddy isn't the first athlete who is taking more time than expected to come back from an injury. That actually happens every now and again.

MavsFTR · 12-18-2010, 12:42 PM

I believe we're looking at an early February return according to the pregame interview with RB last night.

tcat075 · 12-18-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsFTR

I believe we're looking at an early February return according to the pregame interview with RB last night.

I believe that you may very well be right, but I'm going to pretend you're not.

tsar · 12-18-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsFTR

I believe we're looking at an early February return according to the pregame interview with RB last night.

What was said in the interview?

LSMF · 12-18-2010, 02:14 PM

An early february return?

grndmstr_c · 12-18-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tsar

What was said in the interview?

I'd like to know that too. There was a mention in one of the ex-db.com articles of Booby saying something vague about a couple weeks. Even if two weeks was just spit-balling it's still considerably closer than February.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-18-2010, 02:43 PM

The bright side is that teams won't have a full season to scout Roddy. He'll almost certainly be a secret weapon no matter what as long as he returns this season.

dalger · 12-18-2010, 03:49 PM

February would be quite the downer as far as getting him into the rotation and building the necessary chemistry is concerned. I was hoping (and still am) that he could be ready no later than mid-January. Roddy's certainly taking his time with this injury.

Bayliss · 12-18-2010, 04:17 PM

Or it would be quite the opportunity. Showcase him in early February, show that he is **healed**... then immediately ship him to a team that has a player that could impact the Mavs.

tcat075 · 12-18-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Or it would be quite the opportunity. Showcase him in early February, show that he is **healed**... then immediately ship him to a team that has a player that could impact the Mavs.

In all likelihood, teams won't care if he's healthy or not. The injury he had is not a nagging one that could effect him his entire career, it just needs to heal, which its not. The team we trade him to is not going to be a contender, and Roddy will be building towards the future. If their future starts in February or in April, what does it really matter? Sure, they'd love the slight boost in ticket sales from diehards, the extra team buzz, but really, as long as they know its just a broken bone that will heal and Roddy will be healthy, then it should be a minor issue to them.

BGMaverick9 · 12-18-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Or it would be quite the opportunity. Showcase him in early February, show that he is **healed**... then immediately ship him to a team that has a player that could impact the Mavs.

True, but every indication I get is that it's an incredibly short list of players that are worthy of incorporating Roddy into a deal. So, they'll be listening to offers but Roddy is only going to be involved in a player that dramatically changes the Mavericks, a significant impact.

Budapest Maverick · 12-18-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

True, but every indication I get is that it's an incredibly short list of players that are worthy of incorporating Roddy into a deal. So, they'll be listening to offers but Roddy is only going to be involved in a player that dramatically changes the Mavericks, a significant impact.

Exactly. Looks like some fan can't appreciate what kind of talent we found... There is no way we can get fair value for him. Again, his current trade value is nowhere near to his potential. It makes no sense to trade him.

BGMaverick9 · 12-19-2010, 07:00 PM

http://www.fanfeedr.com/nba/2010/12/...step-literally

FINtastic · 12-19-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

http://www.fanfeedr.com/nba/2010/12/...step-literally

Bad news for anyone predicting doom and gloom, but encouraging news for the rest of us.

chumdawg · 12-19-2010, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

Bad news for anyone predicting doom and gloom, but encouraging news for the rest of us.

Walking on an underwater treadmill is good news? Man...that sounds to me like he is still a LONG way off.

FINtastic · 12-19-2010, 07:54 PM

I misread that a little bit. I thought it was saying that if he passed his tests, he would get some light work on the court immediately. Apparently that time table for getting work on the court is a little bit more indefinite than I thought on first glance.

Oh well, still seems to be heading in the right direction even if it is happening slowly. As long as he gets back on the court healthy, I don't care too much about taking extra time to make sure it's done right.

sefant77 · 12-19-2010, 08:05 PM

So how many weeks from removing the boot until underwater threadmill? Three? Ouch.

dude1394 · 12-19-2010, 08:16 PM

yea..that he's just now in the underwater tank? Sheesh...looks like he's at least another month away, possibly 2.

sefant77 · 12-19-2010, 08:20 PM

And it should be obvious now that his healing isnt going a "slow but normal" way at all.

chumdawg · 12-19-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

I misread that a little bit. I thought it was saying that if he passed his tests, he would get some light work on the court immediately. Apparently that time table for getting work on the court is a little bit more indefinite than I thought on first glance.

Oh well, still seems to be heading in the right direction even if it is happening slowly. As long as he gets back on the court healthy, I don't care too much about taking extra time to make sure it's done right.

I'm certainly not trying to be a Negative Nancy, but I'm not expecting one single thing from Beaubois this year. (Ever?...That would be the more pertinent question.)

As for his progress...well, it would almost automatically have to be "heading in the right direction," wouldn't it?

LonghornDub · 12-19-2010, 08:27 PM

Yeah that sounds like we won't see him back until at least February.

BGMaverick9 · 12-19-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Yeah that sounds like we won't see him back until at least February.

Very possible but the kid works every day and he's mastered a set-shot lol

He hasn't let the delays bring him down, he's still got the same poise and chill vibe that we remember. But don't take that as he's coasting, he's doing all that he's allowed to do on a physicality basis.

chumdawg · 12-19-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

http://www.fanfeedr.com/nba/2010/12/...step-literally

What's the story with this website? I clicked on "About," and I started getting Cowboys stuff.

Not that I don't love Cowboy stuff--certainly I do--but what's the deal on why this is a reliable source for Mavs stuff?

chumdawg · 12-19-2010, 08:40 PM

Looking at the Cowboys stuff I found on that site...maybe I'm being a dick, but this sort of stuff just grates me:

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McBriar compensated, however, when he sent a 54-yarder to the Redskins 54-yard line with less than five minutes left in the game.

There are errors you can just gloss over, because you know what the writer means. But man...you can't gloss over that. It really, really grates me that a site purporting to be a legitimate news source would put crap like that out there.

BG, I will give you props along these lines. I don't know if you need/use an editor or if you just get it right the first time yourself, but your articles are remarkably free from errors of this sort. In fact, they are remarkably free of errors of most any kind. I really appreciate that about your work.

As a sort of "vis a vis," if you read cowboysnation.com, which is Rafael Vela's (very, very good) Cowboys font for information, you won't get very far without wondering why he doesn't get someone to proofread his sloppy copy.

LonghornDub · 12-19-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Looking at the Cowboys stuff I found on that site...maybe I'm being a dick, but this sort of stuff just grates me:

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McBriar compensated, however, when he sent a 54-yarder to the Redskins 54-yard line with less than five minutes left in the game.

Ah, yes, the 54-yard line. Of course.

Popeye · 12-19-2010, 08:49 PM

Hasn't he been out of the boot for awhile now? It doesn't make sense that he'd be taking the next step by "walking" on an underwater treadmill when he's been walking around without the boot for a few weeks now, on dry land. Should that mean jogging on the underwater treadmill?

Rick41 · 12-19-2010, 08:55 PM

I'm starting to assume the "setback" was just re-injuring the injury again as serious as it was the first time.

dirno2000 · 12-19-2010, 08:57 PM

If he's already walking without the boot how is walking on an underwater treadmill a step forward? That has to be running right?

BGMaverick9 · 12-19-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Looking at the Cowboys stuff I found on that site...maybe I'm being a dick, but this sort of stuff just grates me:

There are errors you can just gloss over, because you know what the writer means. But man...you can't gloss over that. It really, really grates me that a site purporting to be a legitimate news source would put crap like that out there.

BG, I will give you props along these lines. I don't know if you need/use an editor or if you just get it right the first time yourself, but your articles are remarkably free from errors of this sort. In fact, they are remarkably free of errors of most any kind. I really appreciate that about your work.

As a sort of "vis a vis," if you read cowboysnation.com, which is Rafael Vela's (very, very good) Cowboys font for information, you won't get very far without wondering why he doesn't get someone to proofread his sloppy copy.

Thanks for the praise. We have an editor, but I think my stuff is minimal...it's mainly just me, so thank you.

I'm not really sure of the original source of the site...it's just directed off of something I follow on twitter but the Mavs information is legit. I saw two reliable people talking to Roddy today but I was talking to a media relations person at the time and Roddy just snuck behind me.

Usually Lurkin · 12-19-2010, 09:03 PM

the phrase "cheese eating surrender monkey" starts to come to mind.

b_o_r · 12-19-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

http://www.fanfeedr.com/nba/2010/12/...step-literally

This was taken off DMN, Sefko Mavs blog.

dirno2000 · 12-19-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Popeye

Hasn't he been out of the boot for awhile now? It doesn't make sense that he'd be taking the next step by "walking" on an underwater treadmill when he's been walking around without the boot for a few weeks now, on dry land. Should that mean jogging on the underwater treadmill?

Good point

b_o_r · 12-19-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Popeye

Hasn't he been out of the boot for awhile now? It doesn't make sense that he'd be taking the next step by "walking" on an underwater treadmill when he's been walking around without the boot for a few weeks now, on dry land. Should that mean jogging on the underwater treadmill?

Not only has he been out of the boot for almost month but wasn't he already doing underwater exercises since he began his rehab 3 months ago?

Me just ranting so I hope no one becomes offended.
1. I don't understand the secrecy around the specifics of his injury.
2. I also don't understand why his surgery and rehab wasn't performed and looked after by a podiatrist. Dr. Souryal specializes in ACL injuries and Dr. Levy is a rotator cuff repair specialist and shoulder surgeon.

chumdawg · 12-19-2010, 09:39 PM

Oh, come on, bor_ing. Surely he is getting the best medical care he could possibly get.

Popeye · 12-19-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

If he's already walking without the boot how is walking on an underwater treadmill a step forward? That has to be running right?

I couldn't agree more