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alby · 07-17-2012, 12:06 AM

Cheers to the "Dirk Bump"

chumdawg · 07-17-2012, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

I don't know the story on how his game got lost in MEM, but I'm pumped to see him find it again in Big D!

I don't either, and I'd like to hear it. From what I can gather, they got Tony Allen from Boston the summer after his sophomore year and gave Allen the starting job. Why would they do that?

sike · 07-17-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

The player option tempers it a tiny, tiny bit. But yeah, that's a great signing.

fickle, fickle...just be happy for a minute.

mac222b · 07-17-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

Agreed. But the crux of the argument is the fact that we haven't seen Roddy's ceiling yet. What if we have? And so what if we haven't? Is this the year? Is next year? We just don't know and that's why I choose Delonte over Roddy because he is a known commodity. I'm not saying Delonte is make it or break it, there's a reason why he'll be getting only 2.5M from the Mavericks if he elects to re-sign, I'm merely just pointing out what is known versus what is unknown.

Furthermore, I can guarantee that every guy in that locker room would choose Delonte as well.

Yeah, i dont think we're disagreeing exactly. I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote. Id like to see Delonte re-sign for all the reasons we've all enumerated. But especially because we dont entirely know what to expect from Collison i.e. can he be consistent and trusted to run the point.

Personally i think this team still needs some scoring punch and that Roddy will get first crack at 6th man/instant offense off the bench role as a 2 guard.
Delonte or not.

sike · 07-17-2012, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

I don't either, and I'd like to hear it. From what I can gather, they got Tony Allen from Boston the summer after his sophomore year and gave Allen the starting job. Why would they do that?

And didn't he and Allen get into a fight on a team bus or plane?

alby · 07-17-2012, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

And didn't he and Allen get into a fight on a team bus or plane?

Yes and he missed the next game (his only game not including the 10game suspension during his 4-year career) due to "bronchitis."

mac222b · 07-17-2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

No sh*t!?! What is he thinkin'? He's the best 2 guard since Ro!

Should be better than Greg Buckner

sike · 07-17-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Should be better than Greg Buckner

I've got him slightly ahead of Tony Dumas...though not as good a leaper.

lilojmayo · 07-17-2012, 12:16 AM

Welcome Juice Mayo to Mavericks Nation.

alby · 07-17-2012, 12:16 AM

If you all can't tell, I'm really excited about this move because A) I feel like we got a potential star on the cheap and B) we still keep flexibility.

Even with all his faults, he still averaged 15+ PPG for his career, while coming off the bench in Memphis. He is only 24 years old, and he's 6' 4" -- no more of the "fundamentally flawed" logic that we had with Jason Terry.

chumdawg · 07-17-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

Yes and he missed the next game (his only game not including the 10game suspension during his 4-year career) due to "bronchitis."

Sounds like Allen whipped that ass!

sike · 07-17-2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lilojmayo

Welcome Juice Mayo to Mavericks Nation.

This just popped into my head:http://www.vervesplash.net/uploads/4...85115_orig.jpg

nowhereman · 07-17-2012, 12:21 AM

Starting to look like a bunch of castoffs, players with incentives to boost their value, and a bunch of young guys. Dirk and RC will have to lead like never before.

sike · 07-17-2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

Starting to look like a bunch of castoffs, players with incentives to boost their value, and a bunch of young guys. Dirk and RC will have to lead like never before.

The absence of JKidd's quite leadership might be sorely missed.

I wonder if Champion Dirk is a little more vocal with all these young pups than pre 2011 Dirk?

sike · 07-17-2012, 12:34 AM

Mayo had a pretty miserable offensive year last year...

The kid needs a bounce back in the worst way.

dude1394 · 07-17-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bigcat

i guess dude may want to keep his season ticket after all...

Yea...it might be fun..

alby · 07-17-2012, 12:41 AM

Does this team kind of remind anyone of the 2005/2006 Mavericks?

Two young guards, Collison (Devin) and Mayo (JET) - quick, offensive firepower, defensive passing lanes.
Defensive minded perimeter player, Jones (Griffin) - guards the opposing team's best player
Intangibles wing player, Marion (Howard) - Shawn is older obviously but understand his role better than Josh ever did
All world player, Dirk (Dirk) - Tall baller from the G
F em type player, West (Stackhouse) - Every team needs one of these
Big bodies, Kaman and Brand (Dampier and Diop) - Advantage 2012/2013

Not saying this team will do the same, but that 05/06 version made the NBA Finals.

sike · 07-17-2012, 12:41 AM

Encouraging note: JET never averaged 44% from the field before playing with Dirk.

43.6% was he best shooting year in his 5 yers in ATL before hitting Dallas.

sike · 07-17-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

Does this team kind of remind anyone of the 2005/2006 Mavericks?

Not saying this team will do the same...

Whew...for a second there I thought you were saying this year's Mavs would rip out my sports heart and crush it repeatedly.

Dnowit41 · 07-17-2012, 12:48 AM

Love this move. Juice taking Terry's role

Jack.Kerr · 07-17-2012, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

Starting to look like a bunch of castoffs, players with incentives to boost their value, and a bunch of young guys. Dirk and RC will have to lead like never before.

Definitely a danger. Flexibility like this can be a double-edged sword. If the season starts to go south, it can be like herding cats with everybody playing for his own next contract.

Not much of a danger with a vet like Brand who's got his money made, or even an older player like Kaman, who has had a chance to earn some money, and seems to understand buying into team goals.

But Mayo might be a bit of a wild card in this regard, given his youth, and if he feels like he has to 'audtiion' for a payday. His trajectory in Memphis should be more of a question mark, I'd think. A younger, more athletic Vernon Maxwell, maybe? Guess you just have to cross your fingers and hope for the best.

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Originally Posted by alby

Does this team kind of remind anyone of the 2005/2006 Mavericks?
Big bodies, Kaman and Brand (Dampier and Diop) - Advantage 2012/2013

Gotta disagree here. I think Dampier and Diop were overachievers, but they were the best big-man tandem since the Mavs had Donadlson and Tarpley. Whatever his other faults were, Avery made Diop/Dampier work far better than anyone had a right to expect them to, at least in 05-06. Kaman and Brand may be more productively offensively, but I'd be skeptical about them defensively until they prove different.

chumdawg · 07-17-2012, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

Does this team kind of remind anyone of the 2005/2006 Mavericks?

Two young guards, Collison (Devin) and Mayo (JET) - quick, offensive firepower, defensive passing lanes.
Defensive minded perimeter player, Jones (Griffin) - guards the opposing team's best player
Intangibles wing player, Marion (Howard) - Shawn is older obviously but understand his role better than Josh ever did
All world player, Dirk (Dirk) - Tall baller from the G
F em type player, West (Stackhouse) - Every team needs one of these
Big bodies, Kaman and Brand (Dampier and Diop) - Advantage 2012/2013

Not saying this team will do the same, but that 05/06 version made the NBA Finals.

Good thinking. Of course, West is not in the fold yet. And it remains to be seen whether Mayo can give what Terry gave. But on the whole...yeah. And not very surprising, either...it's a good way to make up a basketball team.

For the record, I'll take Marion wayyy over Howard. I was never sure what it was that Howard was supposed to be bringing to this team.

sike · 07-17-2012, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

Gotta disagree here. I think Dampier and Diop were overachievers, but they were the best big-man tandem since the Mavs had Donadlson and Tarpley. Whatever his other faults were, Avery made Diop/Dampier work far better than anyone had a right to expect them to, at least in 05-06. Kaman and Brand may be more productively offensively, but I'd be skeptical about them defensively until they prove different.

But as inept as Diop/Damp were offensively...I'd think its safe to suggest that Kaman and Brand will take the better of it most nights. (When both sides of the floor are considered.)

MrScottMcKenzie · 07-17-2012, 01:12 AM

Over the moon with the addition of Mayo - Welcome to the D, OJ!

chumdawg · 07-17-2012, 01:15 AM

Been watching some highlight reels. Man, I am FIRED UP about this kid. I'm buying a 10-game package. This team is going to be fun to watch.

OneLove22 · 07-17-2012, 01:19 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC775zz2DNE

DallasMavs412004 · 07-17-2012, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Eman

Maybe we give up Dojo and Roddy in a 3 way trade with Boston/toronto

Calderon/Collison/West/Cunningham
Mayo/Dahntay/Carter/Cunningham
Marion/Crowder/Dahntay
Dirk/Brand/Wright
Kaman/Brand/James/Wright

That is a team that contends for the final IMO

Would you then consider trying to trade for Iguodala even if it costed Marion?

twelli · 07-17-2012, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

But as inept as Diop/Damp were offensively...I'd think its safe to suggest that Kaman and Brand will take the better of it most nights. (When both sides of the floor are considered.)

I am just happy that we won't see a brick-handed Mavs center next season.

OneLove22 · 07-17-2012, 02:09 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up7o44sywGA

This guy can ball.

mavs777 · 07-17-2012, 02:13 AM

Mayo struggled in Memphis as a pick n roll ballhandler, he is much better off the ball.

mavs777 · 07-17-2012, 02:17 AM

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Would you then consider trying to trade for Iguodala even if it costed Marion?

I love Iggy but he would hurt our cap flexibility and isn't that clear cut superstar the mavs want. Also I don't see us getting Calderon as speculated above, more likely we fill out our roster with West with room exception.

PG: Collison/West/Roddy/Cunningham
SG: Mayo/Roddy/Vince/Cunningham
SF: Marion/Vince/Crowder
PF: Dirk/Brand/Wright
C: Kaman/Brand/Wright/James

am i missing anyone?

OneLove22 · 07-17-2012, 02:31 AM

^I'd put Dojo over Cunningham.

He15man · 07-17-2012, 02:42 AM

Lets see what he can do on Dallas before judging the guy.

He15man · 07-17-2012, 02:42 AM

I know Lee is better but I always wanted Mayo, remember watching him in college at USC.

mavs777 · 07-17-2012, 02:43 AM

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^I'd put Dojo over Cunningham.

I don't see either getting minutes in the regular rotation.

adonis · 07-17-2012, 03:45 AM

Knowing Rick, he'll probably play Mayo like he did with JET. 1st guy to come off the bench, 3pt bomber.

Collison/(West)
Jones/Mayo
Marion/Vince
Dirk/Kaman
Brand/Kaman

Only OKC and LA are heads up better than us. Will wait and see how the Spurs deal with their stars aging.

Budapest Maverick · 07-17-2012, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

This. He's a starter and he's young. Not great but not bad to start with. Add the play with Dirk effect and we should have something.

His first 2 years were fantastic, he was on his way to be Kobe-lite, a very good player, with numerous all-star appearances. Then something went wrong, but the ability is there. I think the FO sold him on us with telling him how he would start, how he could be our second scoring option, (something that probably few other team could provide to him) and with a possible good playoff run, he could revitalize his value, and sign a big, long contract with somebody, as early as next summer. And that's probably not a bad option for him, his last 2 years were terrible. He needs to put himself back together again, and hopefully he'll do that, and in style.

OneLove22 · 07-17-2012, 04:10 AM

Why is LA better than us? They have no depth. OKC, SA, Dallas...

mavs777 · 07-17-2012, 04:24 AM

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Why is LA better than us? They have no depth. OKC, SA, Dallas...

Steve Nash surrounded by 3 good players? And Kobe actually respects nash? That's scary, Kobe's always been lethal coming off screens now he has someone that he trusts to playmake for him, I'm sure he will still ISO a bit too much but it will certainly lower.

mavs777 · 07-17-2012, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by adonis

Knowing Rick, he'll probably play Mayo like he did with JET. 1st guy to come off the bench, 3pt bomber.

Collison/(West)
Jones/Mayo
Marion/Vince
Dirk/Kaman
Brand/Kaman

Only OKC and LA are heads up better than us. Will wait and see how the Spurs deal with their stars aging.

Why? Mayo has done considerably better over his career as a starter, also there is a big difference in Jet and Mayo's game, Jet is much but in pick n roll as a ballhandler.