03-16-2021, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Do people honestly think that Cuban is 100% okay with this team and not trying while Mavs fans are the only ones that see the team as flawed?
The NBA is brutal. Trades are hard and we're in a rough position to make a trade. That doesn't mean we're not trying but improving takes both assets and the stars aligning just right. We don't have the assets to male most trades and even then you have to pray,
Is say the odds of a trade in the next 1.5 weeks is almost zero, but if one doesn't happen its not for lack of effort.
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No, obviously not 100% okay with the team, but my bet is that Cuban feels like this team is closer to a contender than they really are. I'd say he is more like 90% okay with this team. He is also probably like many of us fans that when we get on a streak and "we're contenders" then hit a slump and "we suck" and Donnie and Rick have to put him back in neutral.
Are we in a rough position to make a trade though? No other team wants 18M THJ contract falling off the books, or 16M from JJ falling off?
I don't think there will be a move made either and if so it will be for a lack of trying. Whether it's justified in some way or not, I can't see them being aggressive in improving the team, but I can see them holding out hope that someone calls them and offers more than what some of our availables are worth. Unless we call that trying.
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03-16-2021, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
No, obviously not 100% okay with the team, but my bet is that Cuban feels like this team is closer to a contender than they really are. I'd say he is more like 90% okay with this team. He is also probably like many of us fans that when we get on a streak and "we're contenders" then hit a slump and "we suck" and Donnie and Rick have to put him back in neutral.
Are we in a rough position to make a trade though? No other team wants 18M THJ contract falling off the books, or 16M from JJ falling off?
I don't think there will be a move made either and if so it will be for a lack of trying. Whether it's justified in some way or not, I can't see them being aggressive in improving the team, but I can see them holding out hope that someone calls them and offers more than what some of our availables are worth. Unless we call that trying.
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Sounds like to me that Cuban is content with the roster unless a STAR player becomes available.
Mark Cuban: “Unless it’s a game-changing star, I don’t see us doing anything at all. So, if someone decides they’re blowing it up OK, then we’ll talk to anybody about any great player.
I personally feel as if a guy like Arron Gordon improves this team big time on the defensive end or Drummond solves the rebounding issues.
But those aren't STAR players so I'm guessing the Mavs won't bother with them....
They have Luka and KP seems like they would still try to upgrade by at least getting another quality starter if he's not a STAR player.
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03-16-2021, 03:13 PM
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Sounds like to me that Cuban is content with the roster unless a STAR player becomes available.
Mark Cuban: “Unless it’s a game-changing star, I don’t see us doing anything at all. So, if someone decides they’re blowing it up OK, then we’ll talk to anybody about any great player.
I personally feel as if a guy like Arron Gordon improves this team big time on the defensive end or Drummond solves the rebounding issues.
But those aren't STAR players so I'm guessing the Mavs won't bother with them....
They have Luka and KP seems like they would still try to upgrade by at least getting another quality starter if he's not a STAR player.
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So unless a team wants to dump a game-changing star, we love our boys in blue. Sounds like we are just going to kick the can down the road until we can step up to the free agency plate and take a big ol' swing at a game changing star which we will undoubtedly whiff. Don't be surprised when we take THJ and JJs expired contract and turn it into.... THJ's new contract. That's about when they upsell the Bey, Terry, and Green emergence. In the meantime a ton of fans will probably once again say that everyone wants to play with Luka yet it doesn't happen.
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03-16-2021, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
So unless a team wants to dump a game-changing star, we love our boys in blue. Sounds like we are just going to kick the can down the road until we can step up to the free agency plate and take a big ol' swing at a game changing star which we will undoubtedly whiff. Don't be surprised when we take THJ and JJs expired contract and turn it into.... THJ's new contract. That's about when they upsell the Bey, Terry, and Green emergence. In the meantime a ton of fans will probably once again say that everyone wants to play with Luka yet it doesn't happen.
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Check out the Mark Steins comments on these trade rumors
March 15th, 9:00 a.m. - Aaron Gordon has Dallas listed as a place he’d like to play, per Jake Fisher of Bleacher Report. There are some interesting teams on Gordon’s list and he’d be quite the talent infusion, but he’s a confounding player. He wants to play a specific way that doesn’t maximize his skills, loving post ups and threes when he’s average at both. He also may be a bit of a tweener forward, but at 25 he’s got a tantalizing toolbox of skills that perhaps just need the right coach to unlock.
March 12th, 8:30 p.m. - On a Locker Room, Mark Stein says that the Mavericks are surprised this roster hasn’t worked out better and they’d be looking to improve at the deadline.
March 9th - Mark Cuban told the Mavs Stepback Podcast that he values “continuity” and that they wouldn’t make a big splash unless it was for a star.
March 6th - The Mavericks are one of a half dozen teams interested in Larry Nance. Nance is essentially the player Dallas hoped Dwight Powell could one day be before his injury. This one seems a stretch as the price could be too high.
March 2nd - J.J. Redick interests the Mavericks if he’s on the block, per Kevin O’Conner on the Mismatch podcast. He’s old but can still shoot. It’s unclear what the cost would be for Redick and Dallas likely doesn’t have the assets.
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03-16-2021, 09:03 PM
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Are we in a rough position to make a trade though? No other team wants 18M THJ contract falling off the books, or 16M from JJ falling off?
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I said it already. No. I don't think any team is particularly desperate to shed salary right now, enough to part with anything of value for just an expiring contract alone. The expiring contract will have to be part of a larger package along with first round picks and/or promising young prospects, and the Mavs have neither.
So yeah, the Mavs are in a pretty damn tough spot to make a trade- especially before the deadline. If this free agent class were still historically loaded, then maybe. But this is now a really weak free agent class. So, I don't think anyone is eager to give up actual good players for James Johnson's expiring contract.
Last edited by Thespiralgoeson; 03-16-2021 at 09:54 PM.
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03-16-2021, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
I said it already. No. I don't think any team is particularly desperate to shed salary right now, enough to part with anything of value for just an expiring contract alone. The expiring contract will have to be part of a larger package along with first round picks and/or promising young prospects, and the Mavs have neither.
So yeah, the Mavs are in a pretty damn tough spot to make a trade- especially before the deadline. If this free agent class were still historically loaded, then maybe. But this is now a really weak free agent class. So, I don't think anyone is eager to give up actual good players for James Johnson's expiring contract.
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Which is not good for the Mavs because as it stands right now this team is another 1st round exit.
In fact I can't even remember when was the last time they've made it past the 1st round outside of the 2011 Finals and prior to that season they were bounced if I'm not mistaken by the Spurs in the 1st round.
So this really goes way back to like a decade since Dallas has been a legit playoff contender.
I think if a player like Gordon is really on the market they should at least offer up something of value and stand pat hoping more time together will make them better this year.
Kleber is a stretch 4 that I think Orlando would like plus young prospects like Green and Terry might entice them. I know neither player has played much in Dallas but that's not to say in Orlando they wouldn't get any time.
Kevin Porter Jr is a prime example of what could potentially happen if you give minutes to a young player and I highly doubt Kevin Porter Jr would sniff the floor in Dallas.
Orlando would probably say no but Cuban seems only set on another star player and not willing to settle for just a very good Player like Gordon.
Last edited by Dallas41; 03-16-2021 at 10:11 PM.
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