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THJ & Bertans for Westbrook.
I will keep beating this drum. Gives the Lakers shooters around Ad and Bron and gives the Mavs some future flexibility.
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01-29-2023, 11:19 AM
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THJ & Bertans for Westbrook.
I will keep beating this drum. Gives the Lakers shooters around Ad and Bron and gives the Mavs some future flexibility.
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100% anything to break this unit up
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01-29-2023, 12:17 PM
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THJ & Bertans for Westbrook.
I will keep beating this drum. Gives the Lakers shooters around Ad and Bron and gives the Mavs some future flexibility.
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I?d do that and not think twice. Westbrooks expiring deal would be huge.
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01-29-2023, 01:55 PM
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THJ & Bertans for Westbrook.
I will keep beating this drum. Gives the Lakers shooters around Ad and Bron and gives the Mavs some future flexibility.
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Careful what you wish for. Mavs clearing 36mil in cap this summer sounds good
but it's plan powder and we know how that will work out. We don't make any real moves. Fail on the good FAs, and then end up giving Powell 4/100 just to spend money.
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01-29-2023, 10:51 PM
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Careful what you wish for. Mavs clearing 36mil in cap this summer sounds good
but it's plan powder and we know how that will work out. We don't make any real moves. Fail on the good FAs, and then end up giving Powell 4/100 just to spend money.
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I'll take plan powder over this "core". It's fn trash.
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01-30-2023, 01:09 AM
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I'll take plan powder over this "core". It's fn trash.
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Cept they threw a wrench into that by extending Maxi.
Mavs just don't know what the f they are doing...let's just be honest about it. Even an article today saying they don't know if they want to move THJ for an upgrade or cap space. Ugh...
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01-29-2023, 03:05 PM
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At least clearing space means we can keep Wood. Cheap ass Cuban ain't paying up as is for him.
But that's wishful thinking and doubt Lakers take on Bertans.
Whatever trade we make will come out of nowhere like last year.
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01-29-2023, 03:06 PM
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Rumor Mason Plumlee available for a first rounder. LOVE to have him, but everyone wants a first now.
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01-29-2023, 04:20 PM
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Rumor Mason Plumlee available for a first rounder. LOVE to have him, but everyone wants a first now.
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With only 2027/2029 available (2025 if we waive our 1-1 protections on our pick this year) I would not spend half/one third of our assets on an expiring 32-year-old.
I'd take him for McGee, Frank and three seconds
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Powell, THJ, 2027 FRP for Rozier and Plumlee
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01-29-2023, 04:20 PM
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He's having probably his best year, but he's 32 years old. Not for a 1st rounder.
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01-30-2023, 09:32 AM
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Mavs open to trading DFS per Shams. Wow, maybe there is some hope after all. Twitter having a meltdown over the idea which is silly.
Everyone wants to blow it up because Luka needs help but won't trade DFS is why fans are often no better than the FO they hate on.
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01-30-2023, 09:45 AM
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Mavs open to trading DFS per Shams. Wow, maybe there is some hope after all. Twitter having a meltdown over the idea which is silly.
Everyone wants to blow it up because Luka needs help but won't trade DFS is why fans are often no better than the FO they hate on.
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I like Dodo but you trade anyone other than Luka. DFS is best at PF and that is Wood's natural position. This roster is too thin to have a PG, two PFs (one undersized one) and no adequate center/backup PG.
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01-30-2023, 09:49 AM
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I like Dodo but you trade anyone other than Luka. DFS is best at PF and that is Wood's natural position. This roster is too thin to have a PG, two PFs (one undersized one) and no adequate center/backup PG.
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Of course, the return matters, but if the (rumored) Jazz want him then there is a deal to be made for sure. They have a few desirable pieces like Vanderbilt, Sexton, Clarkson etc.
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01-30-2023, 10:31 AM
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Mavs open to trading DFS per Shams. Wow, maybe there is some hope after all. Twitter having a meltdown over the idea which is silly.
Everyone wants to blow it up because Luka needs help but won't trade DFS is why fans are often no better than the FO they hate on.
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I read they want a star player in return for DFS. Cuban will probably move him for someone like Mike Conley.
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01-30-2023, 11:42 AM
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I read they want a star player in return for DFS. Cuban will probably move him for someone like Mike Conley.
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To be fair, it can't be a seller's market, and then we get nothing in return.
Problem with the Jazz is Ainge is as shrewd as they get. BUT they do have a bunch of firsts that I'd be interested in as well.
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01-30-2023, 11:20 AM
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Mavs Twitter is a cess pool for the most part. Dfs IS part of thr problem. 3 headed meh monster of Thj, Bullock and Dfs. People are insane.
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01-30-2023, 11:56 AM
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I can't get behind the DFS slant here or elsewhere. The guy is damn good and the contract isn't bad. He's getting unfairly lumped into the shitburger defense narrative since the team is terrible at defense as a whole.
That being said, you absolutely move him if the return is good enough and makes the team better now or with flexibility in the future.
If it's the Jazz, you're probably looking at a Clarkson or Beasley return. Doubt you could get Vanderbilt thrown in, but maybe you could sweeten the pot.
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01-30-2023, 12:30 PM
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I can't get behind the DFS slant here or elsewhere. The guy is damn good and the contract isn't bad. He's getting unfairly lumped into the shitburger defense narrative since the team is terrible at defense as a whole.
That being said, you absolutely move him if the return is good enough and makes the team better now or with flexibility in the future.
If it's the Jazz, you're probably looking at a Clarkson or Beasley return. Doubt you could get Vanderbilt thrown in, but maybe you could sweeten the pot.
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Dfs is a decent player. Damn good isn't what comes to mind for me.
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01-30-2023, 12:59 PM
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Dfs is a decent player. Damn good isn't what comes to mind for me.
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And it's just simply not true. I never understood the blind love for him. He had a really good season last year but fell off more than a little this season.
It always comes down to the simple fact of not being able to rely on guys like him night in and night.
Not just dodo though. What Bullock are we getting? DFS? Maxi? None of them play consistent ball when the team needs them to be productive. It's not totally their fault with the way the team is built, but it doesn't change the fact that they just aren't talented enough to give the team what it needs.
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01-30-2023, 04:09 PM
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And it's just simply not true. I never understood the blind love for him. He had a really good season last year but fell off more than a little this season.
It always comes down to the simple fact of not being able to rely on guys like him night in and night.
Not just dodo though. What Bullock are we getting? DFS? Maxi? None of them play consistent ball when the team needs them to be productive. It's not totally their fault with the way the team is built, but it doesn't change the fact that they just aren't talented enough to give the team what it needs.
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I think it's reasonable to say he's an ok player in the roles he's being asked to play here and a decent player on a better team with championship aspirations. A team that needs a guy who isn't asked to do a damn thing offensively and is only has to defend SF or PFs. But damn good is not it
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01-30-2023, 03:33 PM
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Mavs need to lock Wood up. If they don?t, it will be bad optics for the franchise. I mean who can be better than this guy for the price? They keep searching but when they get something good, they want to be ?the smartest guy in the room? and screw it up. Just get out of the way of your own egos and do the right thing. They need to get rid of THJ and Bullock so Green and Hardy can get minutes.
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Mavs need to lock Wood up. If they don?t, it will be bad optics for the franchise. I mean who can be better than this guy for the price? They keep searching but when they get something good, they want to be ?the smartest guy in the room? and screw it up. Just get out of the way of your own egos and do the right thing. They need to get rid of THJ and Bullock so Green and Hardy can get minutes.
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100%, for what they are offering Wood, they will not find that guy for less/and for the amount of production he's bringing.
I think 2 of Bullock/THJ/DFS/McGee/Bertans should be gone by the deadline.
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Mavs need to lock Wood up. If they don?t, it will be bad optics for the franchise. I mean who can be better than this guy for the price? They keep searching but when they get something good, they want to be ?the smartest guy in the room? and screw it up. Just get out of the way of your own egos and do the right thing. They need to get rid of THJ and Bullock so Green and Hardy can get minutes.
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What if Wood doesn?t want to accept our offer though? I think best we can offer is 4/$77m (someone correct me if I?m wrong), but I think he?s worth more than that based on his play here. Wood couod very well bet on himself to get a larger deal somewhere. Plus it was previously reported we o ou wanted to offer a 2 year deal I believe.
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01-30-2023, 05:36 PM
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What if Wood doesn?t want to accept our offer though? I think best we can offer is 4/$77m (someone correct me if I?m wrong), but I think he?s worth more than that based on his play here. Wood couod very well bet on himself to get a larger deal somewhere. Plus it was previously reported we o ou wanted to offer a 2 year deal I believe.
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I mean if he says no to 4/77 we did all we can do at least. But if they're really going with the 2 year bs then it's on the MBT yet again.
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01-30-2023, 08:58 PM
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What if Wood doesn?t want to accept our offer though? I think best we can offer is 4/$77m (someone correct me if I?m wrong), but I think he?s worth more than that based on his play here. Wood couod very well bet on himself to get a larger deal somewhere. Plus it was previously reported we o ou wanted to offer a 2 year deal I believe.
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There hasn?t been a single report that Cuban will offer 4/77. Think he would take it. And if he didn?t at least we can say Cuban tried.
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There hasn?t been a single report that Cuban will offer 4/77. Think he would take it. And if he didn?t at least we can say Cuban tried.
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I haven?t seen a report of us making any sort of extension offer. Curious to see if we get any news with the trade deadline quickly approaching.
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01-31-2023, 12:01 AM
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I haven?t seen a report of us making any sort of extension offer. Curious to see if we get any news with the trade deadline quickly approaching.
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Really hope that wasn?t the end of Wood in Dallas. I have an inkling they aren?t rushing him back because of negotiations
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Damn good might be strong but he's being lumped in the same category as defensive duds and bad contracts. DFS would be a fine piece on a championship roster, let's not let our feelings on Bullock, Maxi, Powell, THJ, etc. drag him for no reason.
Again, all that being said, no 2nd thoughts if he is requested in a trade to improve the team.
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Mavs have said he's available but only for a star or significant upgrade.
That is about right. We have some absolute bums out there. DFS is at least a net positive. Impacts the flow well. Salary is decent.
Upgrade if you can, but don't trade just to trade.
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Reggie Bullock shooting % 📈
Oct/Nov: 29.1 FG% 27.1 3PT%
December: 42.7 FG% 37.5 3PT%
January: 45.5 FG% 43.9 3PT%
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Reggie Bullock shooting % 📈
Oct/Nov: 29.1 FG% 27.1 3PT%
December: 42.7 FG% 37.5 3PT%
January: 45.5 FG% 43.9 3PT%
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He would have to shoot 80% from 3 for me to not want to fire him out of a cannon to another team.
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Jae Crowder is a lateral move at best.
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Reggie is getting hit at the right time from deep. Nico better be on the phones. Hopefully Cuban doesn?t step in and veto any potential moves.
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The Mavs have made their move.
Signed a forward to a 10 day contract.
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The Mavs have made their move.
Signed a forward to a 10 day contract.
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Michael Scotto: The Dallas Mavericks are signing forward Chris Silva to a 10-day contract, league sources told @HoopsHype. Silva has averaged 14.2 points and 7.6 rebounds for the College Park Skyhawks in the NBA G League. This is the fourth call-up for the Skyhawks this season. ? via Twitter MikeAScotto
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Toronto fielding calls for OG. Also notable that he is being held out until at least Sunday with a wrist injury.
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Tim MacMahon on Deandre Ayton: He?s a name that I?ve heard around the Mavericks. And again, I think that would have to be a later than right now type of situation. ? via Spotify
Tim MacMahon: If Christian Wood wants to test the market, I don?t know that he?s going to get more money on the market this summer. I talked to a lot of teams, I?ve yet to find one that?s really eager to sign up for the Christian Wood experience. ? via Spotify
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Shams says the Mavs and Jazz are talking about a DFS for Beasley swap.
I'm totally open to moving DFS, but that move seems odd. Especially if we have to give up draft compensation too.
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Shams says the Mavs and Jazz are talking about a DFS for Beasley swap.
I'm totally open to moving DFS, but that move seems odd. Especially if we have to give up draft compensation too.
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Talent and fit wise, that deal straight up isnt worth the hassle. Does the club option on Beasley for next year transfer in a potential trade?
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