Lakers or Celtics?

[Caseman]

Or shallt you be rooting for?

Laker fans are arrogant, annoying pests, while anyone from New England smells like beans. Who deserves Dallas love?

[dirno2000]

I don't want KG to get a ring.

[Caseman]

Originally Posted by dirno2000

I don't want KG to get a ring.

I don't want Kobe to get a Shaqless ring.

[wmbwinn]

I want Dirk to get a ring...

But, I think the Lakers win this...

[dude1394]

Celtics. I don't want the lakers or anyone to so obviously cheat by the collusion that was the gasol trade.

At least boston got theirs honestly.

[Stranger]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Celtics. I don't want the lakers or anyone to so obviously cheat by the collusion that was the gasol trade.

At least boston got theirs honestly.

McHale-Ainge wasn't collusion?

[sike]

Originally Posted by dirno2000

I don't want KG to get a ring.

I love you.

[LSMF]

I want the Lakers to win, and here's why: If KG wins a ring Espn will ride his nutsack for the next year, the media will praise the celtics which will annoy me, Celtic fans are so annoying(So are Laker fans), There will be segments about how Kg's "intensity" got him to the top, the media will say Kg >> Dirk which is an absolute lie and worst of all how can Kendrick Perkins and Brian scalabrine get a ring before Dirk?!

But imo the Celtics will win this series, their defense is outstanding. The lakers have the talent to win but I just think the Celtics D is too good, I hope im wrong though.

[ghazi]

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Originally Posted by longsufferingmavsfan

I want the Lakers to win, and here's why: If KG wins a ring Espn will ride his nutsack for the next year, the media will praise the celtics which will annoy me, Celtic fans are so annoying(So are Laker fans), There will be segments about how Kg's "intensity" got him to the top, the media will say Kg >> Dirk which is an absolute lie and worst of all how can Kendrick Perkins and Brian scalabrine get a ring before Dirk?!

But imo the Celtics will win this series, their defense is outstanding. The lakers have the talent to win but I just think the Celtics D is too good, I hope im wrong though.

The media will think that regardless, unfortunately.

AS for Perkins and Scalabrine lol, how can anyone on the Lakers outside of Kobe/Fisher get THEIR ring before Dirk? both scenarios are vexing.

I'm rooting for the Celtics because the Lakers scare me and historical trends indicate that teams that are runner-up in the finals have a tough time making it back the year after. That would comfort me about the Mavs chances next year, even if it is a little foolish

I view the Celtics as the lesser of two evils as well.

Quite vexing the Pistons didn't make the Finals. That's a team I would gladly cheer for against the Drama Queen.

I will watch this Finals, reluctantly!

[Janett_Reno]

Lakers.

Posey is a key for the Celts. He needs to be a Bruce Bowen and he is capable. In the end, Kobe is great. Gasol was maybe the biggest steal in the NBA. He plays Garentt tough. Then Odom is good. Rondo must punish Fisher by driving the ball down his throat but in the end, Phil Jackson is great. Kobe is great. Gasol and Odom are solid. I like the Lakers. The Lakers drive the ball better to get easy baskets but Rondo can and he needs to because Garnett, Pierce and Allen need some paint points. Who scores the most paint points between the two teams will win the title. I feel the Lakers will do this.

[Flacolaco]

I am so defeated by this series.

I will let you know when I start watching the game. Sometimes my gut lets me know who I really hate more as the game goes on.

I can't decide right now.

[alby]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

I am so defeated by this series.

I will let you know when I start watching the game. Sometimes my gut lets me know who I really hate more as the game goes on.

I can't decide right now.

F the nba...

[alby]

What's next? The Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals next year?

[Mavsfan4ever]

Celtics have better defense so they should win.

[TripleDipping]

I choose a kick in the nutsack.

[alby]

If Posey does this to Kobe in game 1, then I'll watch this crookedness of a series.

[wmbwinn]

Originally Posted by alby

If Posey does this to Kobe in game 1, then I'll watch this crookedness of a series.

If Posey did that, then Posey would be suspended and Kobe would keep playing.

No, I think that it will take a much bigger shot to put Kobe down.

And, really, I'm not in favor of blending Hockey and Basketball.

[MavsFanFinley]

I'll be watching and rooting for the Celtics.

I'd like to see the Lakers taken down a peg.

[Flacolaco]

Part of me thinks it would be such a travesty if the East won the title this year.

[Caseman]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

Part of me thinks it would be such a travesty if the East won the title this year.

Why? The Celtics are basically a bunch of old guys that are tagging along for one last chance for a ring. If they win, half the team will retire.

[alby]

Does the entire Memphis organization get rings if the Lakers win? was that part of the deal?
How about Kevin Mchale?

We need Ro Blackman to join another team, work with them for a couple years, then have the Mavericks steal their players.



Sheesh, I'm a bitter bitter man.

[Dirkadirkastan]

I cheer for this man:



That way, I always win.

[seagullstalker35]

lakers.

kobe is on another level right now. his supporting cast has been great. plus phil jackson will run circles around doc rivers in the coaching department. almost to the degree riley worked over avery a couple years ago. its not gonna be pretty for the celts IMHO. best player + best coach + better supporting cast = lakers champs. book it. im callin it.

[GuerillaBlack]

My conspiracy theory fears grow. The Celtics are terrible, then they magically sign two huge superstars and build this monster team. Then the Grizzlies literally give away one of the premier big men in the league to the Lakers, Pau Gasol. For what? Kwame Brown? Then the referees at times were clearly giving calls at an out of control rate to whoever the home team was.

Of course the Lakers and Celtics were the two teams with home court advantage throughout. I don't know, the NBA just felt odd this year. It's not about the Rockets, because they got the home court calls too. I just can't help but question. The Spurs/Cavs finals last year was the lowest rated POS series ever and it makes financial sense that the NBA would want to have the Lakers and Celtics, the greatest rivalry in NBA history. What better way to get their ratings back up? Both teams were crap last year and unbalanced trades all the sudden turn them into dream teams. Maybe I'm too cynical...

[rmacomic]

I don't know who will win, but I do know who has already lost. The REAL nba fan.

[chumdawg]

If you conspiracy theorists could get over your paranoia, you just might appreciate what we are getting ready to experience. The Lakers and the Celtics, baby! If you were a fan of the NBA in its heyday of the 80's (or know something about its history if you were too young then to be a fan), you know the significance of that matchup. I mean, this is like a Cowboys-Steelers Super Bowl. This is one of those rare moments in sports when the stars align. You should be enjoying this!

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

If you conspiracy theorists could get over your paranoia, you just might appreciate what we are getting ready to experience. The Lakers and the Celtics, baby! If you were a fan of the NBA in its heyday of the 80's (or know something about its history if you were too young then to be a fan), you know the significance of that matchup. I mean, this is like a Cowboys-Steelers Super Bowl. This is one of those rare moments in sports when the stars align. You should be enjoying this!

yeah! it's like Hulk Hogan v. Roddy Piper all over again! Who cares if the stars had help aligning! oh yeah. I do.

[kg_veteran]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

yeah! it's like Hulk Hogan v. Roddy Piper all over again! Who cares if the stars had help aligning! oh yeah. I do.

At least in wrestling, everybody knows and ADMITS that Hogan and Piper (or Flair and Rhodes, etc.) will end up wrestling for the title. We all knew that the promoters were going to make that happen.

The big difference between the NBA and the WWE is that Vince McMahon is honest.

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by kg_veteran

At least in wrestling, everybody knows and ADMITS that Hogan and Piper (or Flair and Rhodes, etc.) will end up wrestling for the title. We all knew that the promoters were going to make that happen.

The big difference between the NBA and the WWE is that Vince McMahon is honest.

I'm not only a fan of the Mavericks, but also of the Von Erichs.

Life sucks.

[alby]

Originally Posted by kg_veteran

At least in wrestling, everybody knows and ADMITS that Hogan and Piper (or Flair and Rhodes, etc.) will end up wrestling for the title. We all knew that the promoters were going to make that happen.

The big difference between the NBA and the WWE is that Vince McMahon is honest.

ain't that the truth

[alby]

Do you think Stern has bigger plans than being commish of the NBA? The guy has tyrant leader written all over him.

[Flacolaco]

It's like an end to hope.

No one else can win a damn title in the league. The Spurs got in on the action, but you can bet the Bulls and Knicks will be back in the mix. Lakers...Cletics...maybe Houston will be back?

When are the Wizards and Mavericks and Suns and Jazz of the world going to get a shot at this thing? You think Orlando is still feeling good about their chances any time soon? I feel like we have no hope now. The time for the little guys came and went. There was hope, and Miami alone seized the day. And now the Celtics and Lakers might even be in the Finals the next few years. Those teams look solid.

[GuerillaBlack]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

It's like an end to hope.

No one else can win a damn title in the league. The Spurs got in on the action, but you can bet the Bulls and Knicks will be back in the mix. Lakers...Cletics...maybe Houston will be back?

When are the Wizards and Mavericks and Suns and Jazz of the world going to get a shot at this thing? You think Orlando is still feeling good about their chances any time soon? I feel like we have no hope now. The time for the little guys came and went. There was hope, and Miami alone seized the day. And now the Celtics and Lakers might even be in the Finals the next few years. Those teams look solid.

Hmm...I like the way you think . A Houston-Boston Finals would go back to the old Houston-Boston Finals (with Larry Bird going against Hakeem and one before that when he went against Moses Malone and company).

Backfire in 3...2...1...

[Janett_Reno]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

It's like an end to hope.

No one else can win a damn title in the league. The Spurs got in on the action, but you can bet the Bulls and Knicks will be back in the mix. Lakers...Cletics...maybe Houston will be back?

When are the Wizards and Mavericks and Suns and Jazz of the world going to get a shot at this thing? You think Orlando is still feeling good about their chances any time soon? I feel like we have no hope now. The time for the little guys came and went. There was hope, and Miami alone seized the day. And now the Celtics and Lakers might even be in the Finals the next few years. Those teams look solid.

I am not a Lakers or Kobe fan but i also know he is by far the greatest player playing in the nba right now. Phil Jackson and Pops are by far the greatest coaches in the league right now. Miami bought a title when signing Posey, Shaq, Mourning and stacked up against us. Maybe they had Payton also. The Lakers was good and when they got Gasol they are now great. The Celtics are trying to buy a title, Cassell, Posey, Garnett, and Allen. Can we hate people because they run great organazations?

It is a reason why the Spurs, Celts and Lakers win titles. Cuban has brought us from door mats to respected. The probs the teams you bring up, Orlando, Bulls, Knicks, Mavs, Wizs, Jazz, Suns, they have to be smart. They get respected and win alot of games but it is no fluke why they do not win. They miss a piece, two pieces or three. I can tell you why each one of those teams did not win and "won't" win a title unless they get "complete". The Jazz are getting close. When teams get close they can go two ways and most of the teams go south and do stupid things or give away the player or players that got them where they was. The Lakers and the Spurs normally never do stupid things unless they are forced to. Gasol for nothing was one of the greatest trades ever in all the Lakers history. Odom could have easily been traded because they wanted him the superstar and he refused to be a superstar but Jackson was so smart seeing how good he was when he was not asked to be the superstar.

The Spurs are never tapped out for money and they can get better each year and will be better next year. The Mavs got close and we got very close and was making good decisions untill the Kidd trade. How long will this keep us broke? How long will be dead old and how many years will it be before we get a draft pick? Now we are the highest paid team and tapped out. Then you can stay the same or you can trade your best player or best players and when you do this and do not have brilliant minds in your organazation, you can go back to being door mats for years. You give away players like Gasol and even Dirk then things get bad. You must be very careful when you start trading players like Dirk and Howard. We can't get better with money or draft picks. Our dead old Eddie Jones players and even Kidd players won't make us much better trading them. We can't get much in return. But again this is alot better than the older days. When teams like Spurs, Celts and Lakers get close, they know what to do to not go backwards, stay the same and make that step forward for a title. They have brilliant minds within the organazation and coaches. As someone stated in here, another nod for the Lakers for me is Jackson. That is worth 3 points every game. I am not taking anything from Rivers but Jackson and Pops is on another level from other coaches. Sloan is good but he is at the close stage and they need a piece for next year, will they go that way?


The two teams to watch next year is the Jazz and the Spurs. The moves they make and the pieces they add, will it take them over the Lakers? Remember the Lakers won't sit still, they will try to go out and get a young superstar point guard. In the east all eyes are on the Cavs, they are close and maybe a piece away. Will they get it? Orlando has a good future, unless they start giving players away. The Bulls are interesting. The Wizs have way to many holes and they can't get complete by next year. The Pistons are letting "old" get them.

I am not happy at these two teams in the finals but was they the two best? Yes. Both have run great franchises but the Celtics got off track for along time untill they got back on. If we can get thru a year or two of bad and start getting some draft pix back and having some money and not being the highest paid, get a good coach, and add pieces to our star or stars, we can get back to have a chance. Not next year or probably the next two because our big deal was the Kidd trade. That was our title. A miracle i guess could happen with a guy like Reyshawn Terry or some big athletic guys picked off the street, we get lucky on but if that happens it is just lucky. The west will be alot better next year than this year and that is scarry.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by Janett_Reno

Can we hate people because they run great organazations?

I hate people who intentionally ruin OTHER franchises in favor of another.

Kevin McHale, current vice president of operations for the Minnesota Timberwolves, played 13 years for the Boston Celtics and hands Kevin Garnett to the Celtics for chump change.

Jerry West, current president of operations for the Memphis Grizzlies, played 14 years for the Los Angeles Lakers and hands Pau Gasol to the Lakers for even less.

It's all bullsh!t, and we have every right to be outraged.

[Janett_Reno]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

I hate people who intentionally ruin OTHER franchises in favor of another.

Kevin McHale, current vice president of operations for the Minnesota Timberwolves, played 13 years for the Boston Celtics and hands Kevin Garnett to the Celtics for chump change.

Jerry West, current president of operations for the Memphis Grizzlies, played 14 years for the Los Angeles Lakers and hands Pau Gasol to the Lakers for even less.

It's all bullsh!t, and we have every right to be outraged.

You are right and i have to agree with this but Garnett was going to rot away in MN. They was never going to win. They had made stupid decisions with that sorry pg with braided hair and other players. They had made so many bad deals that trading a Garnett for a Gasol or one player, then the one player they got back was going to rot away in MN. They had to have many players and start again. They needed to get young, athletic and talented and money space. They chose to suck for a couple years and go young and build. Keeping Garnett, risking injury and getting him old and frustrated would not be good for MN. I also think they could have got more but i undertsnad why they did what they did. Yes, him and Ainge was buddy/buddy and this was a big part of the trade and to save Ainges job.

Kobe and Jerry West are great friends and this is no secret but how he pulled off the Gasol for nothing i will never understand. I do not knock the Lakers for doing it. We have done good the hard way and have built but Cuban listening to Avery and letting Avery tear us down was a bad choice within our ornazation. Get Eddie Jones, get Juwan Howard, get rid of Harris because i(Avery) don't like him, make Josh Howard an Antoine Walker shooter, make Stackhouse the superstar. How much damage did Avery do before Cuban caught on and fired him is the question and for how many years. I like Cuban but alot of this is Cubans fault for listening to Avery and putting all his eggs in the old basket and betting on just one year. This year.

[Underdog]

Y-A-W-N

[alby]

Hate to admit this but if KG does get a ring, he deserves to be put ahead of Dirk. Sorry guys.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by alby

Hate to admit this but if KG does get a ring, he deserves to be put ahead of Dirk. Sorry guys.

What if the Celtics get up 2-0 in the series, then the Lakers win the next four?

[alby]

Then Dirk will still be ahead by a hair.