General NBA watching thread 2010-11 edition

[mavs777]

hah Milicic taking Gasol to school

[mavs777]

Heat seriously choking

[aquaadverse]

Originally Posted by mavs777

Heat seriously choking

Yeah, a horrible win. I hate when they do that.

[Skywalker]

TOR agrees in principle to trade Jarrett Jack, David Andersen and Marcus Banks to NO for Peja Stojakovic and Jerryd Bayless, source tells Y!

Link

[DMOC]

Eh, just another salary cap dump?

[fluid.forty.one]

Pretty odd IMO that a 10-1 team would do any trade right now.

[Underdog]

Griz giving Heat a run for their money...

[fluid.forty.one]

That Z-Bo block on LeBron was filthy.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

That Z-Bo block on LeBron was filthy.

And ridiculously unexpected. Jason Terry has more blocks than Randolph this season...

[fluid.forty.one]

lol memphis

[Underdog]

Rudy Gay for the win.

[fluid.forty.one]

LOL heat

[fluid.forty.one]

They don't even have the Mem-Mia results as one of the top stories on NBA.com

Stern thought this was a sure thing.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

They don't even have the Mem-Mia results as one of the top stories on NBA.com

Stern thought this was a sure thing.

Give them a few minutes and try again. Like, now.

[DMOC]

Dallas is 8-4.

Miami is 8-5.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by DMOC

Miami is 8-5.

Only 65 more wins needed in the next 69 games to beat the Bulls' 72-win season!

[GermanDunk]

Lots of time to adjust for the Cheat. I think the league has to fear Pat Riley, not Bron and Bosh.

[Skywalker]

Blake Griffin is a freak of nature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ZYPqjWkXM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CRDdRxqsC4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIkH5sDAlQ

[sike]

Those are insanely impressive. I hope he can give us years of material like this.

Originally Posted by Skywalker

Blake Griffin is a freak of nature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ZYPqjWkXM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CRDdRxqsC4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIkH5sDAlQ

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by Skywalker

Blake Griffin is a freak of nature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ZYPqjWkXM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CRDdRxqsC4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIkH5sDAlQ

This missed dunk is almost better than all three of those.

[Bayliss]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/m...,0,81733.story

It looks like Miami is going to have a tough road ahead of them with Miller and Haslem out for awhile. They have no depth......

[Usually Lurkin]

Pacers up 16 with 2 min left over the Heat. DWade sucks.

[mavs777]

Pacers are an ok team this year probably get a 7 or 8 seed out east. Hibbert is improving wait till Granger gets on a roll... still doesn't excuse a home loss to them. Going to be 8-7 after this game with 6th best record in the east

[fluid.forty.one]

lol Wade 1-13

[amuseddaysleeper]

Spurs are scary this year.

[rabbitproof]

With Atlanta looking limp and Miami struggling, and with the Spurs and Hornets revitalized and a still surging Oklahoma and LA Lakers, the West-East dynamic still looks awful skewed even with Boozer and Amare going East.

[mavs777]

West is 46-31 against the east

[LonghornDub]

You've heard the old adage, "Sometimes, you just have a game where nothing seems to go right." But what you haven't heard is Erik Spoelstra's version of that adage:

“Sometimes,” Spoelstra said, “you have four or five games [out of only fourteen total] where nothing seems to go right.”

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

You've heard the old adage, "Sometimes, you just have a game where nothing seems to go right." But what you haven't heard is Erik Spoelstra's version of that adage:

It's delicious.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

You've heard the old adage, "Sometimes, you just have a game where nothing seems to go right." But what you haven't heard is Erik Spoelstra's version of that adage:

His ass is grass. Enter Riley in a cape.

[aquaadverse]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

His ass is grass. Enter Riley in a cape.

Nope. Not going to happen for a couple of reasons. First of all it's hard to see what Riley can accomplish on the pine that he can't accomplish from on high with a coach's come to Jesus meeting or two. The Heat aren't like a lot teams where an owner hires a coach and hires a GM and hopes they can work.

Riley hired all the coaches, the scouts, the training staff. Many of these folks have over a decade with him. How many franchises have the first coach a team had as an expansion entry a couple of decades ago on the coaching staff?

Riley has all control he needs now. He can dictate lineups and schemes and his current coach is a product of his system and is probably pretty open to not going down as the guy who screwed this up. Riley isn't going to get pressure from his owner either. Arison went to great lengths to get Riley down here. He gave him control over operations and gave him an ownership share. Arison runs a very complicated business and understands delegation. It's no accident most fans have no idea who owns the Heat.

The other reason is Riley doesn't want to coach and Wade doesn't want him on the bench either. He doesn't want the grind of travel and practices, has little left to prove and seems to relish being Red Auerbach over Phil Jackson.

The current state of the Heat is made up of objections and conditions. Erik Spoelstra has plenty of criticism quite correctly reigning on his head. Lineups and substitutions, finding familiarity with an entire team that has less than a month are objections that can be fixed. Losing players to injury, no quality interior presence and PG are conditions that aren't under his control, nor will sticking Riley on the bench change that. Think things are bad now? That's nothing like it would become with slapping Riley the messiah on top of the super-friends and having them still struggle.

Wade has been pretty vocal about keeping the great and powerful Oz behind the curtain. Reading some of the comments you would think this is it, that they will all be gone at the end of the season. It's like Lord of The Flies with a ball and hoop. Whack Spo after the injury to Miller left the Ferrari with a donut wheel spare in less than month and under 20 games played is panic, pure and simple. On the other hand, Riley playing Cheney with Erik Spoelstra as GW for awhile and playing well after the All Star break would be a lot better than panicking. Riley can descend and put his head in a bucket of ice water and talk about fighting like it's for the next breath a time or two and go back to trying to get more talent to fill in the gapping holes.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by aquaadverse

blah blah blah

Of course Riley won't yet. The core will be around a while so he's got plenty of time. I figured before the season started that he would wait one full season so he would have enough presentable reasons to justify taking over. Even back then their chances at a title this year looked dim, but now it's obvious the Heat won't do much damage this year. Heck, he may even have two seasons before he thinks he's risking some other coach getting the glory. But rest assured, he'll be back on that bench sooner or later.

[aquaadverse]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Of course Riley won't yet. The core will be around a while so he's got plenty of time. I figured before the season started that he would wait one full season so he would have enough presentable reasons to justify taking over. Even back then their chances at a title this year looked dim, but now it's obvious the Heat won't do much damage this year. Heck, he may even have two seasons before he thinks he's risking some other coach getting the glory. But rest assured, he'll be back on that bench sooner or later.

Not that your "cause I said so" argument isn't compelling, but Riley doesn't want to coach. He has nothing left to prove in that area. You were probably convinced that Barry Sanders would be back because that all time rushing leader slot was high on his priority list. Who wouldn't want that, eh? Why let Emmit steal all the glory?

He wasn't just flapping his gums yammering about the 60's Celtics. He isn't being questioned on his coaching ability, all the people predicting his imminent return to the bench and be the savior prove that.

But coaching has never been his only goal. He left the Knicks because of it and he turned the Heat over to SVG because he wanted to prove that he was able to master other difficult challenges. Just because Shaq laid a turd in the punchbowl and interrupted his plan doesn't mean he's eager to go 0 for 2 in the hand picked successor route. Rest assured you're wrong.

[xrobx]

so the hornets just lost to the now 2-13 clippers.

[mavs777]

Originally Posted by xrobx

so the hornets just lost to the now 2-13 clippers.

Only a matter of time. When Marco Belinelli is your third option and best wing you know you are in trouble

[bernardos70]

Only thing sweeter than seeing the Heat lose, is seeing the Heat lose with Riley on the bench calling the shots.

[mavs777]

And the hornets are ready to fall off a cliff remaining November schedule
@ Utah
@ Portland
vs SA
@ OKC

I doubt they win more than 1 of these

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by mavs777

And the hornets are ready to fall off a cliff remaining November schedule
@ Utah
@ Portland
vs SA
@ OKC

I doubt they win more than 1 of these

Portland is a gimme. They will win at least 2.

[mavs777]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Portland is a gimme.

what makes you think that?

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Portland is a gimme. They will win at least 2.

Originally Posted by mavs777

what makes you think that?

http://www.nba.com/games/20101126/NO...#nbaGIboxscore