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Donaghy Admits to 2 Refs Fixing a Playoff Series
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3436401
It's also Breaking News on ESPNews This could be damning to the league. How long was this happening? How frequent?
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Tim Donaghy blows the whistle on Stern
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By JOHN MARZULLI DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 4:10 PM Tim Donaghy, who pleaded guilty to charges of betting on games he officiated, is now airing NBA's dirty laundry. Ex-NBA referee Tim Donaghy told the feds two refs fixed the outcome of one playoff series - and that officials were told not to eject star players from games for fear of hurting ticket sales. The bombshell allegations are contained in a court document filed Tuesday by Donaghy's lawyer. It describes the “inner workings" of the NBA in which top league executives used referees to manipulate games. Donaghy, who pleaded guilty in Brooklyn Federal Court to charges of betting on games he officiated, told FBI agents “league officials would tell referees that they should withhold calling technical fouls on certain star players because doing so hurt ticket sales and television ratings," the document said. Donaghy claims he was told that two refs who were “company men” acting in the interest of the NBA conspired to extend a playoff series in 2002 to a seventh game. The referees allegedly ignored flagrant fouls committed by the team that needed to win. They also reportedly called "made-up fouls" against the other team which led to the ejection of two of their players. The team favored by the refs won that night and the next game to win the series. The document does not name the teams. The Nets were in that playoff series, losing the championship finals to the Los Angeles Lakers. Donaghy also claimed a supervising referee told refs that an unidentified NBA executive did not want them to call technical fouls on star players or boot them from the game. Donaghy told feds the league reprimanded a referee who disobeyed that edict in January 2000 and ejected an unnamed star player from a game in the first quarter. Lawyer John Lauro filed the four-page letter to Federal Judge Carol Amon because none of the information was included in the government’s letter to the judge seeking leniency for Donaghy when he is sentenced next month. Lauro has gone to war against Brooklyn federal prosecutors for offering plea deals to Donaghy's betting accomplices that give them less time than the disgraced ref, despite his extensive cooperation. Donaghy claims referees have accepted autographs, free merchandise and meals from team coaches and managers. He told probers one referee used a team's practice facility to exercise and another played tennis with an NBA coach. "These activities were against NBA rules, indeed, such inappropriate relationships could influence the outcome of games," Lauro wrote. Lauro said he withheld the names of the teams, referees and league officials because the feds may still investigate the allegations.
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By Frank Fitzpatrick INQUIRER STAFF WRITER Tim Donaghy's lawyer said today that the letter the government filed last week outlining his client's cooperation failed to note details of what Donaghy told prosecutors about questionable behavior by other NBA referees. Attorney John Lauro, seeking to reduce the mandatory sentence Donaghy faces when sentenced on July 14, submitted the new information in a supplemental letter to U.S. District Court Judge Carol Amon. Lauro's letter provided a list of alleged "improper interactions and relationships" between referees and league players, coaches and officials, though none are identified. He said some NBA referees socialized with, sought autographs from and played tennis with players, coaches and executives, all in violation of league policies. According to Lauro, Donaghy also told the FBI about colleagues who flaunted another NBA guidelines by wagering in casinos and on other sporting events. An NBA spokesperson could not immediately be reached for comment. Donaghy offered the information, Lauro said, in a Sept. 6, 2007, meeting with FBI officials in Tampa and in a 2008 report that he did at the government's request. The letter indicated that Donaghy had heard from another referee that a third official had promised a general manager/friend that his calls would go against the opponents of that GM's team in a 2004 game. That referee, Donaghy told the FBI, called 25 fouls on that opposing team, "far fewer" than on the GM's club. According to Lauro, Donaghy also informed investigators that NBA executives advised referees not to call technical fouls on or eject star players, fearing that would damage the league's image. Donaghy, Lauro added, also pointed out flaws with the NBA's observer system, in which league officials rate a referee's performance anonymously from the stands. He said officials often knew when they were being observed and by whom, citing one instance when an observer approached the referees before a game and asked them to buy a copy of his new book. The disgraced referee was fired last year after 13 seasons when he admitted providing inside information to friends who bet on NBA games, including some game that Donaghy worked. He faces up to 25 years in prison on gambling and wire-fraud charges. Donaghy also suggested NBA executives manipulated games by urging referees to watch certain players more closely, listing an example from the 2005 playoffs. After complaints about a player from one team's officials, he said, the league instructed the referees to crack down on that player.
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I didn't see "the whistle" at first
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Yeah all us conspiracy theorists are just insane right?
 The NBA couldn't be rigged we didn't really get screwed on the NBA Finals against the Heat. People need to start trusting what their eyes see and not thinking themselves into denial. http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=33262 Last edited by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs; 06-10-2008 at 07:12 PM. |
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He also found 10 straight games in 2007 in which Donaghy worked the game that the point spread moved 1.5 points or more before the tip — an indication that big money had been wagered on the game. The big money won every time —another indication that "something (was) going on".
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European soccer leagues have installed a system where bookmakers report abnormal high stakes - especially when underdog teams are involved. Bets are usually cancelled then. Does something similar exist in the United states ?
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Mavs 116 Rockets 76
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Looks like Van Gundy was right in saying that an official came up to him and told him the refs were given direction to call Yao more tightly. I think that part of the allegations are TRUE. Lakers-Kings game 6 was probably the worst officiated game of all time.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381842,00.html
Breaking News: more info about Tim Donaghy NEW YORK — NBA referee Tim Donaghy made repeated phone calls to a second referee (Scott Foster) at the same time he provided inside information to professional gamblers during the course of the 2006-2007 season, according to court documents and phone records obtained by FOXNews.com.
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Don't let Kobe having the most regular season technicals this year persuade you. I would say that was done on purpose to make it appear as if the league doesn't do what they know they're guilty of. Also it means nothing for him to have the most technicals anyway in the regular season I'll be impressed when he's ejected from an NBA Finals game (wont happen)
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But, hey. That´s unfair !
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do you think the 2005 allegation was the Dallas/Heat championship?? Dallas wins the first two, the officials start calling Dampier more often for the illegal screen, Heat win?
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No because that happened in the 2006 season... If memory serves me correctly it was the Mavs who came back in 05 to beat the Rockets in a best of 7 series?
Suffering is often complemented with a glass of irony on the rocks... Mavs fans raise your glass; To Commissioner Stern.... Cheers!
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Was there a Rockets player getting away with questionable picks/screens that started getting busted starting in game 3?
As far as naming years, then I am to assume that the championship year is titled based on the calendar year in which the playoffs series was played rather than the year the season started? IE, the 2006 year started in 2005 and finished in 2006? So, this year is the 2008 championship series (named for this year rather than the year the season started which was 2007)? You are probably right. I just never thought about it. I can see at the top of this web page that it is titled 2008 Dallas.Mavs.com so you must be correct. So, who was the Rocket who had the refs turn on him? Yao?
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It adds a whole new dimension to history. It is really very sad for the sport and the valiant cheering fan.
And, it adds sudden validity to the many years of Mark Cuban yelling about the refs. It adds instant validity to the statistical work Mark did to show a bias. You can also find an article showing the Mavs got screwed in the 2006 Heat series on the web page 82games.com That article went into detailed statistical analysis to suggest that the Mavs got screwed. Now, suddenly, these conspiracy theories are going to live forever... Put an asterisk on Bond's homerun record. Put an asterisk next to the Heat's trophy. Put an asterisk next to the statement that TMac never got out of the first round... very sad day
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The 2005 series being discussed was the Rockets/Mavs series when Cuban complained to the league about Yao setting "illegal" screens and the referees were told to call Yao extremely tight.
The greatest part is, Jeff Van Gundy was told about this from an inside league official, made it public, and was fined the biggest fine in NBA history, $100,000. I guess making correct accusations leads to hefty fines. |
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Mark got hit with heavy fines as well for his blogs and statistics showing a referee bias and even showing a points differential based on which refs were calling a game...
Anyway, it looks like the issue was actually rigged rather than the refs just being pathetic...
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I really hope this leads to something tangible, like a real investigation into what the league and Darth Stern is doing so that things will change for the better. As it is right now, I don't think any changes will be made.
I know I can't absolutely prove it, but I have been convinced over the years that there was alot more than incompetence going on with the officiating. I think the proverbial straw for me was the 2006 finals. I have since had a hard time watching the NBA without thinking that it is rigged. After that year, I stopped buying NBA league pass in protest and haven't re-upped since. Maybe one day we will have our proof.
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Can you believe a sport that has millions of dollars in bets waged every game is rigged???
Next thing you know, the government will start rigging elections!
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Pandora's Box just popped open...
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He also found 10 straight games in 2007 in which Donaghy worked the game that the point spread moved 1.5 points or more before the tip — an indication that big money had been wagered on the game. The big money won every time —another indication that "something (was) going on".
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I'm not really sure that's something to be proud of...
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Hey could you read a message I never had the time to answer on these boards from 07'? It'd accomplish more than anything the Mavs will.
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