Race card sighting, race card sighting.

[chumdawg]

Do you really "believe (accurately)" that racism is gone for good? I don't think you are being intellectually honest. I think what you mean is something like this: "Racism, or discrimination in general, is no longer legal, as it used to be. Hence, it no longer exists, at least in any form that is worth talking about."

But discrimination does still exist, and you know it. And you know that the government can go only so far in legislating against it. Private entities--down to and including you--can discriminate all they want and the government can't do anything about it. A country club can be all-male if it wants to, all-white if it wants to, all-female if it wants to, all-black if it wants to...nothing the government can do about it. You personally can discriminate against anyone you want to discriminate against, and there is nothing the government can do about it. Let's not act as though government-sponsored affirmative action solved discrimination in our country.

You say "we've had enough affirmative action." In also suggesting that you think the ugly parts of our past are "over," I would guess that you feel affirmative action did the job it was supposed to do. It's good that you recognize the positive effect affirmative action had. After all, the country was, what, 150 or so years old before women finally got the right to vote...but in the last few decades we have, through affirmative action, elevated blacks' status from the vestiges of slavery to the case now where they hold important positions in all areas of our government and industries. Affirmative action was much more effective than letting the natural course of things play out.

But you say enough is enough, and that it is a liberal viewpoint that we haven't finished the job. The "conservative" viewpoint you imply is not actually a conservative viewpoint but rather a reactionary one, a viewpoint that longs for the days of old.

I'm happy not to share that one with you.

[dude1394]

No...I forget what that "actually" referred to.

Sure there is racism, on both sides white, black, hispanic, indian, chinese etc. All kinds. But there is not institutional racism, nor is there guvment sanctioned racism.

But there IS guvment sacntioned reverse-racism. It's time to end it. There is much more snobbery than racsim imo.

As Obama would say...I can't know what would have happened had we not had AA, set-asides and busing. Other than I know that many folks were hurt by the same policies that supposedly helped others.

You call it wishing for the days of old, I call it wishing for the days of new for the cultures themselves who continue to be hurt by victimhood. I call it wishing for the Ward Connally, Thomas Sowell and the Bill Cosby day of personal responsibility, not victimhood. The black culture appears to be imploding imo, I dont' think it's been that helpful.

[Arne]

By the way, new homeland security news:

"As part of border search policy, government agents are now authorized to seize electronic devices and inspect documents in them, the document states. The electronic devices might include laptops, cell phones, portable music players or storage devices such as portable hard drives…"

http://www.pcworld.com/article/14930...ml?tk=rss_news

Get those terrorists, get them, get them... Their evil notebooks have to be seized so we can spend even more money gathering all this "intelligence"...

[DirkFTW]

The resonance of racism
In a nation steeped in stereotypes, candidates' words can hit a nerve.

Whether by calculation or coincidence, Hillary Clinton and Republicans who have attacked Barack Obama for elitism have struck a chord in a long-standing symphony of racial codes. It is a rebuke that gets magnified by historic beliefs about what blacks are and what they have no right to be.

...

This could not happen as dramatically were it not for embedded racial attitudes. "Elitist" is another word for "arrogant," which is another word for "uppity," that old calumny applied to blacks who stood up for themselves.

...

Deep end

Gergen: McCain Using Code Words To Attack Obama As "Uppity"

On Sunday, longtime Washington hand David Gergen took umbrage with John McCain's recent attack ads, charging that the Senator was using coded messaging to paint Barack Obama as "outside the mainstream" and "uppity."

"There has been a very intentional effort to paint him as somebody outside the mainstream, other, 'he's not one of us,'" said Gergen, who has worked with White Houses, both Republican and Democrat, from Nixon to Clinton. "I think the McCain campaign has been scrupulous about not directly saying it, but it's the subtext of this campaign. Everybody knows that. There are certain kinds of signals. As a native of the south, I can tell you, when you see this Charlton Heston ad, 'The One,' that's code for, 'he's uppity, he ought to stay in his place.' Everybody gets that who is from a southern background. We all understand that. When McCain comes out and starts talking about affirmative action, 'I'm against quotas,' we get what that's about."

Wow.

I'm sure the arugula price check and the disdain for gun-clinging, bible-clinging rural people had nothing to do with it

[DirkFTW]

Is Slate part of the Onion...?

When "Skinny" Means "Black"
The Journal stumbles over racial subtext.
By Timothy Noah
Posted Monday, Aug. 4, 2008, at 6:06 PM ET

In the Aug. 1 Wall Street Journal, Amy Chozick asked, "[C]ould Sen. Obama's skinniness be a liability?" Most Americans, Chozick points out, aren't skinny. Fully 66 percent of all citizens who've reached voting age are overweight, and 32 percent are obese. To be thin is to be different physically. Not that there's anything wrong, mind you, with being a skinny person. But would you want your sister to marry one? Would you want a whole family of skinny people to move in next-door? "I won't vote for any beanpole guy," an "unnamed Clinton supporter" wrote on a Yahoo politics message board. My point is that any discussion of Obama's "skinniness" and its impact on the typical American voter can't avoid being interpreted as a coded discussion of race.

Chozick insists that she didn't intend her playful feature about Obama's physique as potential electoral liability to carry any racial subtext. "I can't even respond to that," she told me. "That's ridiculous." Bob Christie, Dow Jones' vice president of communications, phoned me in a flash to reaffirm that message. I believe Chozick and Christie when they say that the Journal never intended skinniness to serve as a proxy for race. (Full disclosure: I was a reporter in the Journal's Washington bureau a dozen years ago. I know neither Chozick nor Christie. Fuller disclosure: I phoned my former Journal colleague, Michel Martin, an African-American journalist who is now host of NPR's Tell Me More, which frequently addresses matters of race, to ask whether she was offended. She was not. )

But I firmly disagree that a racial reading of Chozick's story is "ridiculous," and I would counter that any failure on Chozick's part to recognize such is just a wee bit clueless.

Let's review the basics. Barack Obama is the first African-American to win a major-party nomination for president of the United States. African-Americans are distinguishable from other Americans by their skin color. This physical attribute looms large in our nation's history as a source of prejudice.

The promise of Obama's presidency, in many people's minds, is partly that America will move toward becoming a post-racial society. It's pretty clear, though, that we aren't there yet. When white people are invited to think about Obama's physical appearance, the principal attribute they're likely to dwell on is his dark skin. Consequently, any reference to Obama's other physical attributes can't help coming off as a coy walk around the barn. A whole genre of humor turns on this reality. A Slate colleague informs me that an episode of the TV sitcom Happy Days ("Fonzie's New Friend") had its 1950s-era characters nervously discussing the fact that a black man in their midst was so … skinny. Was it true that skinny people liked fried chicken? That they were good at basketball? And so on.

It might be argued that body weight differs from certain other physical characteristics (apart from skin color) in that it has never been associated with racial caricature. Chozick wasn't asking (and, I feel sure, would never ask) whether Americans might think Obama's hair was too kinky or his nose too broad. But it doesn't matter. The sad fact is that any discussion of Obama's physical appearance is going to remind white people of the physical characteristic that's most on their minds. Moreover, Martin points out, "The black male body has been commodified in this country from its earliest days. People were brought here for their bodies." Better either to leave the whole topic alone, it seems to me, or to address the question of racial prejudice head-on, as Juan Williams did in an Aug. 4 Wall Street Journal column. In the future, the press would be wise to avoid discussing how ordinary Americans will respond to the size of Obama's ears, the thickness of Obama's eyebrows, and so on.

Is that prohibition too inhibiting? I doubt it, unless you happen to be a political cartoonist, and therefore have no choice but to navigate these perilous waters. Indeed, a few paragraphs into her story, Chozick shifts her topic from Obama's appearance to Obama's eating habits—from something Obama is to something Obama does. The shift was probably necessitated because in reality, people don't think much about Obama's skinniness. Chozick could substantiate her hypothesis with only two quotes, one of which—the "beanpole" quote—she solicited on the Web. ("Does anyone out there think Barack Obama is too thin to be president?" Chozick queried. "Anyone having a hard time relating to him and his 'no excess body fat'? Please let me know. Thanks!") In the vastness of cyberspace, you can always find somebody who will say whatever you want.

Are Obama's eating habits a political liability? The question may be trivial, but at least it's not offensive. The only real objection you can make there is that Chozick's litany of healthy foodstuffs favored by Obama (he "snacks on MET-Rx chocolate roasted-peanut protein bars and drinks Black Forest Berry Honest Tea, a healthy organic brew") echoes a similar litany from the day before by John McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis. ("Only celebrities like Barack Obama … demand MET-RX chocolate roasted-peanut protein bars and bottles of a hard-to-find organic brew—Black Forest Berry Honest Tea. …") But that possible misdemeanor lies beyond our purview.

http://www.slate.com/id/2196756/

[DirkFTW]

Is Olbermann trying to scare off viewers...

Olbermann Sees '3 Phallic Symbols, 2 Blondes & Barack Obama' in Ad

KEITH OLBERMANN: What about when it backfires? Because it seems like the celebrity ad continues to echo. And Bob Herbert of the New York Times was on this network pointing out something I don't know that anybody noticed before this morning. That not only in that McCain ad where there two underdressed blondes mixed with the black guy in the ad, but there were also images of the Leaning Tower of Pisa, the Washington Monument, and the Victory Column in Berlin -- as Bob Herbert put it, "phallic symbols." Three phallic symbols, two blondes and Barack Obama. So this is not just a sexist ad anymore. This is what they used to called "miscegenation," isn't it? This is what they used against Harold Ford.

JONATHAN ALTER, NEWSWEEK: Well, to suggest that somehow, you know, Obama's going to-

OLBERMANN: He's going to wind up dating those women-

ALTER: Yeah.

OLBERMANN: That's the idea.

ALTER: That's the oldest and deepest racist, you know, canard in American history, really, is that, you know, the slave is going to come after the wife of the plantation owner. I can't, sort of, dissect and decode these ads that way. I just, somehow maybe my media literacy is lacking. I didn't read that out of those ads, but I can see how some people would. And the larger issue, I think, is clear, which is they're trying to portray him as being uppity. Now, is that racist? I'm not sure, you know.

OLBERMANN: Well, if we're playing Password and you say "uppity," the word that comes into my mind, that's racist, yes. Yes.

ALTER: Yes. That is clearly what the larger subtext is. As for the phallic stuff, I'll leave that to others.

OLBERMANN: Well, all right, we'll just drop it there.

Link

1. No Washington Monument
2. No Leaning Tower of Pisa
3. Obama picked the Victory Column in Berlin
4. Freud would be having a field day. "You say you see what in these pictures??"

[DirkFTW]

Oh thank goodness for the Daily Show... Not everyone is nuts.

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/...videoId=178314

[dude1394]

Any station that would have olberman on it cannot be taken seriously. Lou Dobbs is right there also.

[ShaggyDirk]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Any station that would have olberman on it cannot be taken seriously. Lou Dobbs is right there also.

TOTALLY, agree!

[dude1394]

Funny..

Can Obama laugh at himself?

Of course not. That would be racist.

[DirkFTW]

^Aww, I like Lou. =) Wouldn't mind seeing him in a position to actually implement some of his ideas too.

Looks like more people are noticing the strange situation where every criticism somehow becomes racism.

“Happy Days” Are Here Again

August 06, 2008 9:54 AM

The Wall Street Journal's Amy Chozic wrote a piece earlier this month called "Too Fit to Be President?" in which she pondered whether in a country "in which 66% of the voting-age population is overweight and 32% is obese, could Sen. Obama's skinniness be a liability? Despite his visits to waffle houses, ice-cream parlors and greasy-spoon diners around the country, his slim physique just might have some Americans wondering whether he is truly like them."

That elicited a column from a writer at Slate, accusing Chozic of being "clueless" for not realizing that her column about Obama's fitness would be interpreted as a "coded discussion on race."

"When 'Skinny' Means 'Black,''' in fact, is the name of the column by Tim Noah, which notes that a "Slate colleague informs me that an episode of the TV sitcom Happy Days ('Fonzie's New Friend') had its 1950s-era characters nervously discussing the fact that a black man in their midst was so … skinny. Was it true that skinny people liked fried chicken? That they were good at basketball? And so on. …

“The sad fact is that any discussion of Obama's physical appearance is going to remind white people of the physical characteristic that's most on their minds. Better either to leave the whole topic alone, it seems to me, or to address the question of racial prejudice head-on.... In the future, the press would be wise to avoid discussing how ordinary Americans will respond to the size of Obama's ears, the thickness of Obama's eyebrows, and so on.”

Discussion question (throwing it out there, not my opinion necessarily, just here it is, lets have some talk about it):

Some commentators -- not the Obama campaign, mind you, but their supporters in the blabbocracy -- are trying to take entire subjects of discussion off the table by insinuating there is a racial subtext. Discussion of Obama's tremendous self-regard = calling him "uppity." And now the suggestion that we can't discuss the physical fitness of a presidential candidate who works out six days a week without that being seen in some liberal quarters as code.

Bonus questions: Is there any connection between the blue collar appeal of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Happy Days' Leather Tuscadero? Could the new campaign tactics of Sen. John McCain be accurately described as a “Malachi crunch”?

- jpt

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...-days-are.html

[rabbitproof]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080807/...r/obama_threat

sigh. would love to move on..

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080807/...r/obama_threat

sigh. would love to move on..

I agree, it's been going on 8 years too long.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j...v2IeQD92DLLFO0

A man who authorities said was keeping weapons and military-style gear in his hotel room and car appeared in court Thursday on charges he threatened to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Raymond Hunter Geisel, 22, was arrested by the Secret Service on Saturday in Miami and was ordered held at Miami’s downtown detention center without bail Thursday by a federal magistrate.

A Secret Service affidavit charges that Geisel made the threat during a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. According to someone else in the 48-member class, Geisel allegedly referred to Obama with a racial epithet and continued, “If he gets elected, I’ll assassinate him myself.”

Obama was most recently in Florida on Aug. 1-2 but did not visit the South Florida area.

Another person in the class quoted Geisel as saying that “he hated George W. Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in the president’s head,” according to the Secret Service.

[DirkFTW]

He was charged only with threatening Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, but not for any threat against President Bush.

I love how he wasn't charged with threatening to kill the president, but rather conditionally threatening to kill a candidate. Poor W, so many people want him dead that it's no longer a crime.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by DirkFTW

I love how he wasn't charged with threatening to kill the president, but rather conditionally threatening to kill a candidate. Poor W, so many people want him dead that it's no longer a crime.

Dubya's enemies highlight his character.

[Kirobaito]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Dubya's enemies highlight his character.

Yeah, it was the same with Nixon....

[dude1394]

I sort of like this drivel. They can keep pushing it out there and it's going to bite them in the ass. White folks have been told they are racists for so long that thinking you can "shame" them into voting for the most liberal ticket in modern memory aint' gonna work brotha'. Hopefully it will backfire greatly. When there's a conservative black person running, they'll get my vote, unitl then fuggedaboutit.

http://slate.com/id/2198397

If Obama Loses Racism is the only reason McCain might beat him.

What with the Bush legacy of reckless war and economic mismanagement, 2008 is a year that favors the generic Democratic candidate over the generic Republican one. Yet Barack Obama, with every natural and structural advantage in the presidential race, is running only neck-and-neck against John McCain, a sub-par Republican nominee with a list of liabilities longer than a Joe Biden monologue. Obama has built a crack political operation, raised record sums, and inspired millions with his eloquence and vision. McCain has struggled with a fractious campaign team, lacks clarity and discipline, and remains a stranger to charisma. Yet at the moment, the two of them appear to be tied. What gives?

If it makes you feel better, you can rationalize Obama's missing 10-point lead on the basis of Clintonite sulkiness, his slowness in responding to attacks, or the concern that Obama may be too handsome, brilliant, and cool to be elected. But let's be honest: If you break the numbers down, the reason Obama isn't ahead right now is that he trails badly among one group, older white voters. He does so for a simple reason: the color of his skin.

Much evidence points to racial prejudice as a factor that could be large enough to cost Obama the election. That warning is written all over last month's CBS/New York Times poll, which is worth examining in detail if you want a quick grasp of white America's curious sense of racial grievance. In the poll, 26 percent of whites say they have been victims of discrimination. Twenty-seven percent say too much has been made of the problems facing black people. Twenty-four percent say the country isn't ready to elect a black president. Five percent of white voters acknowledge that they, personally, would not vote for a black candidate.

I can't believe I kept reading this junk. So now if I don't elect a 4 year senator who has spent 2 of them campaigning and hasn't even convened his own committee then it's a "sign and symptom of a nation's historical decline". Wow...where do these people come from. The arrogrance that maybe, this dude doesn't have anything to offer just is beyond his comprehension. I would say that if we DO elect someone with so few qualifications it would be a sign and symptom of a nations decline, certainly into a lack of seriousness.

You may or may not agree with Obama's policy prescriptions, but they are, by and large, serious attempts to deal with the biggest issues we face: a failing health care system, oil dependency, income stagnation, and climate change. To the rest of the world, a rejection of the promise he represents wouldn't just be an odd choice by the United States. It would be taken for what it would be: sign and symptom of a nation's historical decline.

[dude1394]

Ah now it's the democrat union label race card. So many groups, so little time. Couldn't be that he's an inexperienced hollow suit.

DENVER — Racial prejudice is being cited among senior union leaders to explain Sen. Barack Obama’s difficulty in winning over support from white rank-and-file members.

Obama (D-Ill.) is counting on organized labor to help win him key electoral votes in Ohio, Michigan and other battleground states. Karen Ackerman, political director for the AFL-CIO, acknowledged that Obama’s race is an important factor for some union members.

“This race is very complicated because there is an African-American candidate for president,” said Ackerman. “We feel there is a racial component for some union members, but we’re confident we can overcome that.”

Some in the labor movement say that Obama’s race has made it difficult for a significant number of union members to support him over Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the presumptive GOP nominee.

[rabbitproof]

High profile characters get threatened everyday but it's the racial epithet that makes that link relevant to this thread.

[dude1394]

Let's see...if you yell racism all of the time, are you really the bigot?

Howard Dean also says:

"If you look at folks of color, even women, they're more successful in the Democratic Party than they are in the "white", excuse me, the Republican Party."

If they want to push folks away from voting for a black man they are doing a really good job.

[chumdawg]

Did Rosa Parks "yell racism all the time"? MLK? I'm not sure I understand what you mean here.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

Did Rosa Parks "yell racism all the time"? MLK? I'm not sure I understand what you mean here.

I mean who's the bigot in this situation. The head of the Democratic National Party or the Republican Party Members.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by dude1394

I mean who's the bigot in this situation. The head of the Democratic National Party or the Republican Party Members.

c) all of the above.

[Flacolaco]

Ah, the labor union. The socialists spring board.

[rabbitproof]

http://www.newsweek.com/id/155795

Three men now under arrest in Denver on federal and local gun and drug charges spent last Saturday night discussing their hatred for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, according to documents made public by the government late Tuesday. One of the suspects allegedly talked about killing Obama on the "day of his Inauguration" using a .22-250 caliber sniper rifle and high-powered scope--the same model rifle that was found in one of the suspect's possession by police during a routine traffic stop last weekend.

The three men under arrest, whom authorities believe to be white supremacists, talked about how they hated Obama because he was black, how they "could not believe how close he [Obama] was to becoming president, and how no "n----r" should ever live in the White House, a female witness told the Secret Service, according to the documents. (The witness is unnamed in the papers.)

---

Makes you wonder if America is really ready. Would hope our generation is but it might take a couple more..

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

http://www.newsweek.com/id/155795

Three men now under arrest in Denver on federal and local gun and drug charges spent last Saturday night discussing their hatred for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, according to documents made public by the government late Tuesday. One of the suspects allegedly talked about killing Obama on the "day of his Inauguration" using a .22-250 caliber sniper rifle and high-powered scope--the same model rifle that was found in one of the suspect's possession by police during a routine traffic stop last weekend.

The three men under arrest, whom authorities believe to be white supremacists, talked about how they hated Obama because he was black, how they "could not believe how close he [Obama] was to becoming president, and how no "n----r" should ever live in the White House, a female witness told the Secret Service, according to the documents. (The witness is unnamed in the papers.)

---

Makes you wonder if America is really ready. Would hope our generation is but it might take a couple more..

No "one" is(or will ever be) "ready" in your opinion if you think this outlier proves anything.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Makes you wonder if America is really ready. Would hope our generation is but it might take a couple more..

Well, it's not like the folks who want to kill him are very intelligent - they got caught (and the election is still months away!)

[rabbitproof]

Dude,
I don't think this is a single anomaly. I'd bet on atleast another attempt, possibly multiple. I also do think it is a representation for a not insignificant portion of America, as far as attitude goes, even if the individual call to action may be different and not so extreme.

---

UD,
Stupidity in numbers is still a dangerous thing.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Dude,
I don't think this is a single anomaly. I'd bet on atleast another attempt, possibly multiple. I also do think it is a representation for a not insignificant portion of America, as far as attitude goes, even if the individual call to action may be different and not so extreme.

---

UD,
Stupidity in numbers is still a dangerous thing.

Of course it's not a single anomaly. As a white person go spend some time in an all-black community and see if you get a few upside your head. Racism is rampant all over the world, less so I imagine in this country than most.

We just love to talk about it more.

[chumdawg]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Of course it's not a single anomaly. As a white person go spend some time in an all-black community and see if you get a few upside your head.

You sometimes aren't able to hide your racism as well as I know you would like to.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

You sometimes aren't able to hide your racism as well as I know you would like to.

Go talk to chris rock. What I won't do is pretend that only white folks are racist. sorry....don't hunt.

[chumdawg]

Nice. You seem to suggest that we're all racist...you just don't think that fact should be part of the political discourse. Have it your way, my man. Have it your way.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

Nice. You seem to suggest that we're all racist...you just don't think that fact should be part of the political discourse. Have it your way, my man. Have it your way.

What I suggest is not that we are ALL racist, but that racism exists throughout the world in all cultures, all strata, all colors.

If Barack Hussein Obama wants to continue and throw out the race card, go for it. Folks who are not consumed with misplaced guilt will just conclude that he's just another person crying racism to try and get over. ESPECIALLY someone like obama, poor mistreated person that he has been for so long. Bulls***.

Like Mac'08 is supposed to just take being called a racist and let it go. F that dude man.

[ribosoma]

Originally Posted by dude1394

What I suggest is not that we are ALL racist, but that racism exists throughout the world in all cultures, all strata, all colors.

If Barack Hussein Obama wants to continue and throw out the race card, go for it. Folks who are not consumed with misplaced guilt will just conclude that he's just another person crying racism to try and get over. ESPECIALLY someone like obama, poor mistreated person that he has been for so long. Bulls***.

Like Mac'08 is supposed to just take being called a racist and let it go. F that dude man.

"The Racism is strong with you, old Duderlicious3000..."

[chumdawg]

You said something like "as a white man, try walking in a black neighborhood." McCain is a white man. Did you mean to exclude him from the "white man" you talked about. DOES or DOES NOT McCain feel what you suggested a "white man" feels when he walks in a black neighborhood.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

You said something like "as a white man, try walking in a black neighborhood." McCain is a white man. Did you mean to exclude him from the "white man" you talked about. DOES or DOES NOT McCain feel what you suggested a "white man" feels when he walks in a black neighborhood.

Yes McCain would probably be subjected to the same racism that you or I would be subjected to in a predominantly black neighborhood. About the same extent that a black dude would in a predominantly white neighborhood.

[chumdawg]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Yes McCain would probably be subjected to the same racism that you or I would be subjected to in a predominantly black neighborhood. About the same extent that a black dude would in a predominantly white neighborhood.

The black dude is gonna get "hit upside the head" walking the streets of Frisco, because he's black?

Um...I doubt it.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

The black dude is gonna get "hit upside the head" walking the streets of Frisco, because he's black?

Um...I doubt it.

Ah you are probably right (again see chris rock) so that would mean that the other neighborhood would be more racist, right?

[chumdawg]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Ah you are probably right (again see chris rock) so that would mean that the other neighborhood would be more racist, right?

Yes, you certainly do seem to think so.

[Flacolaco]

People who call NBA fans/season-ticket-holders racists are funny.

(And btw, do any of you know truly what color the other is?)