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Old 02-28-2024, 10:23 PM   #1
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Need to move Maxi. Kidd can't help but overplay him and THJ. Our twin bigs do better without Maxi.
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Old 02-29-2024, 06:18 AM   #2
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Need to move Maxi. Kidd can't help but overplay him and THJ. Our twin bigs do better without Maxi.
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Old 02-29-2024, 09:45 AM   #3
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Need to move Maxi. Kidd can't help but overplay him and THJ. Our twin bigs do better without Maxi.
Chicken or the egg. I'd say fire Kidd if he can't make it past the first round with this roster.

Maxi and THJ in their correct roles are absolutely rotation worthy. It's the same thing we are seeing with Powell, though with additions he's almost just depth in case of injury.

Maxi at the 4 and THJ as a spark plug 2, both from off of the bench, are great depth. A good coach knows when to sit both, especially if one keeps being hunted on the defensive end in THJ.

THJ didn't appear to learn shit all on shot selection last night. Jacked up a couple of deep contested threes. He's nice when he's hitting, but I he's one for certain that I won't miss...
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Chicken or the egg. I'd say fire Kidd if he can't make it past the first round with this roster.

Maxi and THJ in their correct roles are absolutely rotation worthy. It's the same thing we are seeing with Powell, though with additions he's almost just depth in case of injury.

Maxi at the 4 and THJ as a spark plug 2, both from off of the bench, are great depth. A good coach knows when to sit both, especially if one keeps being hunted on the defensive end in THJ.

THJ didn't appear to learn shit all on shot selection last night. Jacked up a couple of deep contested threes. He's nice when he's hitting, but I he's one for certain that I won't miss...
THJ isn't a smart player. Plain and simple.

But you're spot on with what their roles should be. Totally agree that it's a luxury to have Maxi and THJ in more limited roles.

But man, even Exum who has been out since the last Star Wars movie looked better than THJ. He understands flow, ball handling, and when to take a freakin' good shot.
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Chicken or the egg. I'd say fire Kidd if he can't make it past the first round with this roster.

Maxi and THJ in their correct roles are absolutely rotation worthy. It's the same thing we are seeing with Powell, though with additions he's almost just depth in case of injury.

Maxi at the 4 and THJ as a spark plug 2, both from off of the bench, are great depth. A good coach knows when to sit both, especially if one keeps being hunted on the defensive end in THJ.

THJ didn't appear to learn shit all on shot selection last night. Jacked up a couple of deep contested threes. He's nice when he's hitting, but I he's one for certain that I won't miss...
THJ isnt necessarily hunted. He just doesnt know when to hedge, loses track of his man by ball watching, has a terrible feel and anticipation of screens.

He is a lost cause and shouldnt be getting more than 12-15 mins a game unless he is having one of those flamethrower games where he has it going immediately.

Kidd and the coaching staff should have already eliminated many of the same defensive 101 mistakes they have made since he was hired. Just rolling mostly with what RC had in place isn't good enough.

The roster is better but we consistently make fundamental errors in defensive strategy that will force us to have an incredibly hot offensive playoff run to contend.
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Old 02-29-2024, 03:03 PM   #6
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Just rolling mostly with what RC had in place isn't good enough.
You hit the nail on the head here. Kidd's entire system is just a watered down version of Rick's. It's just that Kidd can't play call for shit. Lineups are about equal in bizarness, although I do think Kidd has done a good job getting the most of out players...when they actually get a chance.

Listen, we won this game and are still within easy striking distance of the 6th seed. But I really, really don't like Maxi's role when you just made a major trade for Gafford.

Watch the highlights and you can see how we NEED the shotblocking and rebounding. Lively was just insane on defense this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MihQ...el=PandaHank41

And dude, Luka is just redonk this season. I don't think there are 10 players in history more talented than him. Maybe not even 5.
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You hit the nail on the head here. Kidd's entire system is just a watered down version of Rick's. It's just that Kidd can't play call for shit. Lineups are about equal in bizarness, although I do think Kidd has done a good job getting the most of out players...when they actually get a chance.

Listen, we won this game and are still within easy striking distance of the 6th seed. But I really, really don't like Maxi's role when you just made a major trade for Gafford.

Watch the highlights and you can see how we NEED the shotblocking and rebounding. Lively was just insane on defense this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MihQ...el=PandaHank41

And dude, Luka is just redonk this season. I don't think there are 10 players in history more talented than him. Maybe not even 5.
Ageeed on both points. Jesus, Coming from a place where I wasnt sure about trading up for Luka to where I thinks he is going to be a top player to ever play the sport. Imo, he is on the Lebron, MJ pace and whoever else you put up in the clouds as beyond generational talent.

Maxi and Thj have been bouncing up against their ceiling for a few years. The only thing we can hope for is that they bust off a few outlier games when we really need it, all while hoping coaches dont try to over play their hands.

Kidd was a really good defender and he knoes what it takes to play solid team defense. We had a good run of defense when he was here. Our scheme was solid and we had guys that understood spacing and where to be. They knew how to sag, help and get back. They also clogged and mucked up PnRs pretty well. Maybe he just isnt good at slowing it down for the players to drill it. The fundamentals and scheme are definitely not imprinted on most of our players. Im convinced that other coaches could get more out of this team.
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You hit the nail on the head here. Kidd's entire system is just a watered down version of Rick's. It's just that Kidd can't play call for shit. Lineups are about equal in bizarness, although I do think Kidd has done a good job getting the most of out players...when they actually get a chance.

Listen, we won this game and are still within easy striking distance of the 6th seed. But I really, really don't like Maxi's role when you just made a major trade for Gafford.

Watch the highlights and you can see how we NEED the shotblocking and rebounding. Lively was just insane on defense this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MihQ...el=PandaHank41
Agreed. I hope we need to just get rid of Maxi and THJ in the offseason to force Kidd's hand (since we probably can't hope to replace Kidd.) Replace TJH with Hardy and I think this might be one of the 4 best teams in the league.

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And dude, Luka is just redonk this season. I don't think there are 10 players in history more talented than him. Maybe not even 5.
I mean, just from a statistical standpoint, he has been doing things that have never been done before since the moment he first stepped on to the court. From his rookie season, the only people you can compare him to are Bird, Magic, Oscar, Lebron, even Jordan.

The dude has 4 all-nba first teams in his first 5 years. Thats the same number the Dirk, Garnett, and David Robinson had in their entire careers. Oh yeah, and he's even better this year and easily cruising to his fifth.
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