2019-2020 NBA Season Thread - Page 21 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

sefant77 · 11-16-2020, 11:05 PM

They also thought they are entitled to get Zion with their 15% shot

EricaLubarsky · 11-16-2020, 11:33 PM

Jrue and Giannis could be good

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-16-2020, 11:33 PM

Damn Blazers got Covington...that is a really good fit for them. Cost them two firsts though. Wow their 16 pick I'm guessing...no way I do that for the Mavs. Per woj

And holiday to Mil per Shams.

KillerLeft · 11-16-2020, 11:35 PM

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Damn Blazers got Covington...that is a really good fit for them.

Dtownsfinest · 11-17-2020, 12:06 AM

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Damn Blazers got Covington...that is a really good fit for them. Cost them two firsts though. Wow their 16 pick I'm guessing...no way I do that for the Mavs. Per woj

And holiday to Mil per Shams.

I get why Blazers did it though. They have some youth with Anfernee Simons and Gary Trent JR...chances are they were going to draft another guy like that never mind they have Lillard and McCollum. A real solid move for them.

EricaLubarsky · 11-16-2020, 11:35 PM

Rockets are officially done

sefant77 · 11-16-2020, 11:36 PM

Yepp they are blowing it up. Lets get Tucker

Dtownsfinest · 11-17-2020, 12:13 AM

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Yepp they are blowing it up. Lets get Tucker

I'd love to have him. Has that toughness we need. Nevermind he can guard positions 4,5 and the 3.....can hit 3's....one of the best rebounders in the league....

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-16-2020, 11:41 PM

Three first round picks for Holiday. Whoa.

AND two pick swaps. That will screw them if Giannis doesn't extend.

EricaLubarsky · 11-16-2020, 11:43 PM

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Three first round picks for Holiday. Whoa.

Wow

I think Bucks are all in on Giannis. They could be really good and defensively they’ll be a nightmare.

But they already owed 2022. Now they lost 2024, 2026, and 2028

MFFL · 11-17-2020, 12:03 AM

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Three first round picks for Holiday. Whoa.

AND two pick swaps. That will screw them if Giannis doesn't extend.

Covington got 2 1st rounders too

Man the Knicks screwed themselves on Porzingis. They didn't even ask for pick swaps

Dtownsfinest · 11-17-2020, 12:14 AM

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Three first round picks for Holiday. Whoa.

AND two pick swaps. That will screw them if Giannis doesn't extend.

To do it they must have a guarantee from Giannis.

EricaLubarsky · 11-16-2020, 11:48 PM

Three picks AND two swaps

If Giannis stays, the swaps are meaningless.

If Giannis takes off, those swaps could double sting.

sefant77 · 11-16-2020, 11:49 PM

Jrue is an UCLA guy, Buddy with Davis, UFA next year and the Lakers have almost max Cap...lol

EricaLubarsky · 11-16-2020, 11:51 PM

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Jrue is an UCLA guy, Buddy with Davis, UFA next year and the Lakers have almost max Cap...lol

Holy crap, you’re right. Dude can opt out this summer. That would be something else if he opted out after all that and left.

Well I’m glad the line that NOP wasn’t talking to us was BS. We were never in the running with prices that high— and thank god too.

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-16-2020, 11:55 PM

Curious who Houston picks at 16 now.

EricaLubarsky · 11-17-2020, 12:01 AM

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Curious who Houston picks at 16 now.

Pok if he’s there.

That definitely takes them out of the running with the support guys. They need a whole new team

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-17-2020, 12:23 AM

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Pok if he’s there.

That definitely takes them out of the running with the support guys. They need a whole new team

In that case I think that improves our draft prospects providing we don't trade the pick.

I don't think we will.

sefant77 · 11-17-2020, 12:08 AM

Stein with the rumour that Giannis intends to sign the supermax...

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-17-2020, 01:24 AM

Bogdonavic to Milwauke via sign and trade. Yep, Giannis is staying.

spreedom · 11-17-2020, 01:27 AM

Time for Plan B for the Mavs

Thespiralgoeson · 11-17-2020, 02:24 AM

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Time for Plan B for the Mavs

Plan B was Holiday... What's Plan C?

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 02:28 AM

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Plan B was Holiday... What's Plan C?

If you're talking about 2021 free agents, I think they like Hayward a lot.

But, I'm not sure what to expect. Part of me thinks the opportunities will be better with the space (and not just signing free agents) than anything that's out there now, and part of me is screaming "GET HIELD" inside.

It must be really difficult to be a GM.

Thespiralgoeson · 11-17-2020, 02:31 AM

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If you're talking about 2021 free agents, I think they like Hayward a lot.

But, I'm not sure what to expect. Part of me thinks the opportunities will be better with the space (and not just signing free agents) than anything that's out there now, and part of me is screaming "GET HIELD" inside.

It must be really difficult to be a GM.

UGH!

I swear to god, I was just looking at the 2021 free agents list and thinking, "god that would suck so bad if it ended up being someone like Hayward."

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 02:35 AM

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UGH!

I swear to god, I was just looking at the 2021 free agents list and thinking, "god that would suck so bad if it ended up being someone like Hayward."

Hayward is still a really good player. But yeah, not exactly what we were hoping for.

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 02:36 AM

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UGH!

I swear to god, I was just looking at the 2021 free agents list and thinking, "god that would suck so bad if it ended up being someone like Hayward."

I think they toyed with a sign and trade for him THIS year, tbh. I have heard that they like him, he likes them and wants to be here. That's where all the opt out talk came from. Dallas didn't want to pay him his number (he wants Horford money) because of Giannis (assumed) and so he has been weighing an offer from Atlanta against opting in and getting traded wherever the hell Boston wants to send him for weeks.

SO...if all of that is true, raising the offer for him and negotiating a sign and trade with Boston is very likely to get another look from the Mavs tomorrow.

Brace yourself.

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 02:34 AM

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Plan B was Holiday... What's Plan C?

Pray for Beal?

Thespiralgoeson · 11-17-2020, 02:43 AM

I have no doubt that he can still play, but we need wing defenders BADLY. And some f**king athleticism wouldn't hurt either.

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 02:47 AM

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I have no doubt that he can still play, but we need wing defenders BADLY. And some f**king athleticism wouldn't hurt either.

I hear you. I just think they're way more focused on adding a second player who can drive and make plays to pair with Luka. That's literally all Donnie or Carlisle ever talk about..."secondary playmaker"..."take pressure off of Luka"...etc.

I feel like they believe this should be done BEFORE they spend on role players, so as not to paint themselves into any corners, fit wise.

But, then again, I've got buddies who strongly believe this whole off season is about trading up in the draft to get a guy they think might be a "star."

I honestly don't know what to expect now that Giannis is off the board. I just hope they don't panic and do something stupid.

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 03:07 AM

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I hear you. I just think they're way more focused on adding a second player who can drive and make plays to pair with Luka. That's literally all Donnie or Carlisle ever talk about..."secondary playmaker"..."take pressure off of Luka"...etc.

I feel like they believe this should be done BEFORE they spend on role players, so as not to paint themselves into any corners, fit wise.

But, then again, I've got buddies who strongly believe this whole off season is about trading up in the draft to get a guy they think might be a "star."

I honestly don't know what to expect now that Giannis is off the board. I just hope they don't panic and do something stupid.

I’m all aboard the secondary playmaker bandwagon. Our biggest need imho. I think between Maxi and DFS and whoever we draft and sign with MLE we can cobble together a pretty good defensive wing rotation for next season, and maybe more if we strike lucky in the draft and MLE.

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 02:52 AM

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I have no doubt that he can still play, but we need wing defenders BADLY. And some f**king athleticism wouldn't hurt either.

It's superficial and reductive, I know, but I do feel like adding Hayward or Gallo would officially bring in a bunch of "why do they only like white guys in Dallas" questions from NBA twitter. lol.

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 03:05 AM

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I have no doubt that he can still play, but we need wing defenders BADLY. And some f**king athleticism wouldn't hurt either.

Hayward is a solid wing defender. Not as athletic as he used to be but a good rebounder too. I’m not disagreeing with you. I’d prefer someone even more athletic and even better defensively. Of course if you combined that with Hayward’s skill level you’d have an NBA player.

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 03:09 AM

And I agree, Killer Left, about panic moves. No need to rush out and push in our chips. This season will be weird for every team. KP and Powell working back from injuries. Go for the next player on your board. Worst case, we have MLE and two nice picks incoming.

EricaLubarsky · 11-17-2020, 09:58 AM

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And I agree, Killer Left, about panic moves. No need to rush out and push in our chips. This season will be weird for every team. KP and Powell working back from injuries. Go for the next player on your board. Worst case, we have MLE and two nice picks incoming.

1) We have no cap space
2) We have like 13 guys on the roster. 14 if we are planning on re-signing JJB too so we don't even have a place for our two picks this year.
3) Our guys we do have largely have a negative value
4) The only money we have for FAs is the MLE

Mt expectations are pretty low.

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 06:02 PM

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1) We have no cap space
2) We have like 13 guys on the roster. 14 if we are planning on re-signing JJB too so we don't even have a place for our two picks this year.
3) Our guys we do have largely have a negative value
4) The only money we have for FAs is the MLE

Mt expectations are pretty low.

That’s what I meant. Use the MLE if a guy(s) you like is there. Don’t make panic trades with future firsts and salaries for a some geezer.

EricaLubarsky · 11-17-2020, 10:38 AM

New Orleans receives

2020 1st (via IND)
2024 right to swap
2025 1st unprotected
2026 right to swap
2027 1st unprotected

tap2390 · 11-17-2020, 11:10 AM

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New Orleans receives

2020 1st (via IND)
2024 right to swap
2025 1st unprotected
2026 right to swap
2027 1st unprotected

Pelicans played the Bucks like a fiddle.

EricaLubarsky · 11-17-2020, 11:11 AM

@worldwidewob
NASH: final play, who wants the ball?
DURANT: you serious?
HARDEN: get the rebound and it’s yours.
KYRIE: i already shot it.

EricaLubarsky · 11-17-2020, 03:34 PM

Hornets front runner for Westbrook

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 04:38 PM

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Hornets front runner for Westbrook

OMG, imagine being a Hornets fan.

Constant pain. I bet they're truly excited about that.