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Eman · 06-09-2008, 04:30 PM

Dallas Mavericks

Incoming Players
Jared Dudley
Salary: $1,137,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.8 REB: 3.9 AST: 1.1 PER: 13.63

Jason Richardson
Salary: $11,111,110 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 21.8 REB: 5.4 AST: 3.1 PER: 18.48

Adam Morrison
Salary: $3,887,880 Years Remaining: 2

Outgoing Players: Jerry Stackhouse, Jason TerryCharlotte Bobcats

Incoming Players
Jerry Stackhouse
Salary: $6,750,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 10.7 REB: 2.3 AST: 2.5 PER: 13.37

Jason Terry
Salary: $8,898,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 15.5 REB: 2.5 AST: 3.2 PER: 17.80

Outgoing Players: Jared Dudley, Jason Richardson, Adam Morrison

We do it for 2 swingmen and JRich as our 2 guard. We take JRich's huge contract and take Adam Morrison off of their hands.

BGMaverick9 · 06-09-2008, 04:41 PM

but why does Charlotte want to do that deal?

Eman · 06-09-2008, 04:57 PM

they don't want to pay Richardson so much, stack can be cut and you only have to pay $2million next year. Morrison is a bust, so we take him and his contract off there hands. We just need bodies to some extent.

spreedom · 06-09-2008, 05:10 PM

I say this trade would be MUCH more likely if we swapped Terry with Josh... maybe took Matt Carroll instead of Morrison too.

bgarrett · 06-09-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

I say this trade would be MUCH more likely if we swapped Terry with Josh... maybe took Matt Carroll instead of Morrison too.

True.
But maybe keep Morrison in deal if JHO is in... would be my re-counter offer.

BGMaverick9 · 06-09-2008, 05:35 PM

Josh/Stack for Carroll/Richardson doesn't work
" " for Morrison/Richardson doesn't work

Josh/Stack/Bass for Morrison/Richardson DOES work

that's all off of RealGMs trade checker.

chosen_one8976 · 06-09-2008, 05:40 PM

i like jrich, but we wouldnt get two other decent players with him for just jet and stack, we'd probably get someone like othella harrington to go with him...otherwise i do think we should trade for him

BGMaverick9 · 06-09-2008, 06:05 PM

This is a case of is these set of returning players good enough for you to give up Bass as icing on the cake? B/c that is what it comes down to. The numbers are almost there, adding him takes care of it.

AxdemxO · 06-09-2008, 06:16 PM

Morrison is a Bust?? The guy played one season and was decent. In the rite roll he can contribute a lot...and I think he isn't a Bust...but once again another trade where the other team gives a star player and 2 young talents for one of our guys. No way they do it

BGMaverick9 · 06-09-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Morrison is a Bust?? The guy played one season and was decent. In the rite roll he can contribute a lot...and I think he isn't a Bust...but once again another trade where the other team gives a star player and 2 young talents for one of our guys. No way they do it

Well, talking on a Bobcats message board, they seem in favor of doing the deal that RealGM said financially fits:
Richardson/Morrison for Howard/Stack/Bass

It's not a unanimous decision on their part, but it is a definite majority.

bgarrett · 06-09-2008, 10:27 PM

WE would be giving up too much! J rich is not much better than Howard, and Morrison isn't close to stack and Bass, I thought Dudey was in the deal too?

spreedom · 06-09-2008, 10:28 PM

How about Howard/Terry for Richardson/Morrison/Carroll? Too lazy to look it up, but I'd be all over that deal.

BGMaverick9 · 06-09-2008, 10:30 PM

bgarrett, deal doesn't work if Dudley is involved.

spreedom, deal doesn't work if it's your deal.

AxdemxO · 06-10-2008, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Well, talking on a Bobcats message board, they seem in favor of doing the deal that RealGM said financially fits:
Richardson/Morrison for Howard/Stack/Bass

It's not a unanimous decision on their part, but it is a definite majority.

That seems more realistic...

AxdemxO · 06-10-2008, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bgarrett

WE would be giving up too much! J rich is not much better than Howard, and Morrison isn't close to stack and Bass, I thought Dudey was in the deal too?

j Rich is better in ever aspect of the game besides maybe D. and well i am willing to bet that hes a little smarter out there too

BGMaverick9 · 06-10-2008, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AxdemxO

That seems more realistic...

I agree, I think both sides would show some hesitancy to pull the deal but I think it could work. Morrison's health is a factor as well. I'm still checking in to see if he's on schedule with his rehab and everything.

chosen_one8976 · 06-10-2008, 09:52 AM

theres no way id do it, who backs dirk up after bass is gone...nobody i want, so id rather not have morrison and keep bass, but then we have a whole at the 3 if we trade jho for him, we do need a decent bench if we want to go anywhere in the playoffs next year

bgarrett · 06-10-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AxdemxO

j Rich is better in ever aspect of the game besides maybe D. and well i am willing to bet that hes a little smarter out there too

Not really.......Looks pretty even like I mentioned yesterday

JOSH HOWARD

PPG 19.9
RPG 7.0
APG 2.2
SPG 0.8
BPG 0.4
FG% 0.455
FT% 0.813
3P% 0.319
MPG 36.3

JASON RICHARDSON

PPG 21.8
RPG 5.4
APG 3.1
SPG 1.4
BPG 0.7
FG% 0.441
FT% 0.752
3P% 0.406
MPG 38.4

I can't comment on him being smarter, but I have seen him disappear in some games like Howard too. Personally I would rather have JRich too but that deal as a whole, is NOT WORTH IT.

AxdemxO · 06-10-2008, 10:57 AM

J Rich plays the 2 and 3

bgarrett · 06-10-2008, 11:13 AM

For the record Jho could too, if need be... I'll take JRICH if nothing more than to see the exciting dunks
KIDD
JRICH
BASS
DIRK
DAMP
would be fine with me.

AxdemxO · 06-10-2008, 12:20 PM

I think overall IMO

J Rich > J Ho.....

dalmations202 · 06-10-2008, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgarrett

For the record Jho could too, if need be... I'll take JRICH if nothing more than to see the exciting dunks
KIDD
JRICH
BASS
DIRK
DAMP
would be fine with me.

Good team, but IMO, not championship quality.

BPo001 · 06-10-2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgarrett

For the record Jho could too, if need be... I'll take JRICH if nothing more than to see the exciting dunks
KIDD
JRICH
BASS
DIRK
DAMP
would be fine with me.

Bass would be part of the trade would he not? scratch that lineup...

bgarrett · 06-10-2008, 01:34 PM

barea
seibutis
R.terry
M.allen
magloire

championship!!!

Would they win 15 games?

alby · 06-10-2008, 02:13 PM

I don't want Richardson if we're not going to keep Howard.

Kidd/Richardson/Howard is what I would want in this scenario.

edit*
and yes, I would give up Bass to make that a reality.

chosen_one8976 · 06-10-2008, 03:37 PM

if it ment terry and bass, id do it to keep howard...that would be a pretty darn good front three in kidd, jrich and jho...a terry and bass proposition is somethin to consider

BGMaverick9 · 06-10-2008, 04:33 PM

I don't think they are interested in Terry, and the deals I looked at involving him really didn't work with Charlotte.

There are cheap or talented options for a PF backup, remember we don't need them to be a stud or anything.

horse900703 · 06-14-2008, 11:19 AM

Do watever u think is good for the team, Cuban!

Zki41 · 06-27-2008, 07:34 PM

Bass is a must keep for the Mavs

bgarrett · 06-27-2008, 09:31 PM

I agree.. unless it's some young talented starter we can't pass up that fits the SG or C.

mbaur · 06-28-2008, 11:17 AM

Do it!

I am happy to see Richardson coming in!

I think Josh/Richardson and some others for the money!

So we can complete with Ter/Damp/Stack for Maggette(Can sign out and LAC need an PG) / Kaman an we have a new team! New Motivation, new posibilities, new chance for championship!

Kaman/Diop
Dirk/Bass
Maggette/George
Richardson/Foster
Kidd/Lue/Barea

Am i dreaming?

chosen_one8976 · 06-28-2008, 11:33 AM

the clips are really high on kaman right now

bgarrett · 06-28-2008, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbaur

Do it!

I am happy to see Richardson coming in!

I think Josh/Richardson and some others for the money!

So we can complete with Ter/Damp/Stack for Maggette(Can sign out and LAC need an PG) / Kaman an we have a new team! New Motivation, new posibilities, new chance for championship!

Kaman/Diop
Dirk/Bass
Maggette/George
Richardson/Foster
Kidd/Lue/Barea

Am i dreaming?

Well It's not a nightmare! The German connection!!!

chosen_one8976 · 06-28-2008, 05:22 PM

you know what the mavs should do, somehow get all of the players from the Argentinean team that beat us in the olympics and then hire an international coach...hell if they could beat our best they can beat the rest, lol

bgarrett · 06-28-2008, 07:33 PM

What the mavs should do is put Dampier and Avery in a death match fight, and the winner gets set on fire and shortly after extinguished with an icepick...

Underdog · 06-28-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bgarrett

the winner gets set on fire and shortly after extinguished with an icepick...

Sounds like a harsh fate for Damp...

chosen_one8976 · 06-28-2008, 10:57 PM

i dont know, avery is pretty scrappy...he might be able to take out damp, i'd pay to see that fight

spreedom · 06-28-2008, 11:01 PM

I'd pay too... to see the first class beatdown that Damp puts on that little munchkin.

mbaur · 07-18-2008, 02:06 PM

New Idea:

For Artest the Kings want Josh... so Dallas trade Damp/Josh/Jones for Miller/Artest..

Bobcats risk is, that Okafor leave for nothing. So Dallas trade Miller/Bass/Terry for Okafor/Richardson.. Miller/Bass are value for Okafor, Terry is valueable with Richardson..

Last but not least we send Okafor for Kaman to the Clippers (Camby C, Okafor PF).. Camby/Kaman are not so valueable in the same roster, Camby/Okafor are perfekt for LAC..

Kaman/Diop
Nowitzki/Singleton
Artest/Wright/Stack
Richardson/Stack/Green/Foster
Kidd/Barea

My dream become true :-)

Wo can tell this idea to cuban?

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