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saclare · 01-04-2019, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MavzMan

Max contract this year and 2 more for a better Doug McDermott? That's a horrible selling point. If he was even making close to Wes money, then it's much closer at least. But you are talking about giving up free agency for the next two years if we get him and keep DJ. Is this a championship contending team in 2-4 years?

DJ
Player X
OPJ
Luka
DSJ

How do you term larger = better? May be a should have a said a much, much, much better McDermott? My point was he would fit this team much better than iso Barnes and I see the upside versus comparing his number on a sputtering Wizards team to Barnes on this team.

Also, for the record, again, the contract is the hold up for me, though I think he would be worth closer to it's value here than in Washington.

EricaLubarsky · 01-04-2019, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MavzMan

Max contract this year and 2 more for a better Doug McDermott? That's a horrible selling point. If he was even making close to Wes money, then it's much closer at least. But you are talking about giving up free agency for the next two years if we get him and keep DJ. Is this a championship contending team in 2-4 years?

DJ
Player X
OPJ
Luka
DSJ

DJ isn't getting more than 14 a year at 31

DJ (14)/ Powell (10.3)
???/???/???
Porter or Barnes(25.5)/ ???/???
Luka (7.7)
DSJ (4.5)/Brunson (1.4)
-----------------------------------
63.4 mill.
That gives us 45.6 mill in cap space with Jordan re-signed and the cap changes very little with Porter or Barnes. That's enough for a max money guy at one of the forward spots.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-04-2019, 12:01 PM

You can overpay to keep the unit together to make a run. You can't overpay to bring the pieces in because it limits what you can add because of cap rules.

OPJ is not worth Jokic and Greek freak money. He's the 17th highest paid player this year and 22nd highest next year. Is he going to have top 20 impact on this team? Not even close. If he was here we'd talk about him the same way we do Barnes and Wes, as nice players but overpaid for what they bring.

EricaLubarsky · 01-04-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

You can overpay to keep the unit together to make a run. You can't overpay to bring the pieces in because it limits what you can add because of cap rules.

OPJ is not worth Jokic and Greek freak money. He's the 17th highest paid player this year and 22nd highest next year. Is he going to have top 20 impact on this team? Not even close. If he was here we'd talk about him the same way we do Barnes and Wes, as nice players but overpaid for what they bring.

And yet Porter earns the same as Barnes. Do you think Barnes produces at the Jokis/Atetomoumpo level? That's who we'd be trading to get Porter. Obviously the money is inflated, but both guys are overpaid.

People are pretending that Barnes is going to opt out of his 25mill this summer like it's a sure deal, but I'd wager that he opts in, meaning we're paying Barnes roughly a quarter of our cap next year. Porter is just one more year of that and only costs us 2.2mill in cap this summer. For a 3/D guy who can actually rebound, that is essential-- even more so if Jordan leaves this summer. People forget how terrible we were rebounding with Barnes and no Jordan. That's not even to mention Barnes' defense, which was terrible. Right now only Dirk is a worse defensive forward.

If we want to roll with Doncic as our star, we have to consider a complementary supporting cast of guys who can defend and rebound. Barnes can't do either while Barnes' biggest skillset is in ISOs with a poor ability to pass out of it. He's developing more into a stationary 3pt shooter, which is better for Doncic, but still-- he's a guy who can hit the three but can't defend or rebound. That's not the best piece to put next to Doncic.

Underdog · 01-04-2019, 12:43 PM

Screw Barnes AND Porter -- they're both overpaid for what they produce. So it's not Barnes vs. Porter, it's Barnes/Porter vs anyone else in the league you can give that money to... I'll take Barnes since one year less on his contract makes him the objectively better option. The sooner we move on from surrounding Doncic with overpriced guys who don't fit his game, the better.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-04-2019, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Screw Barnes AND Porter -- they're both overpaid for what they produce. So it's not Barnes vs. Porter, it's Barnes/Porter vs anyone else in the league you can give that money to... I'll take Barnes since one year less on his contract makes him the objectively better option. The sooner we move on from surrounding Doncic with overpriced guys who don't fit his game, the better.

This. I wasn't trying to say Barnes is demonstrably better than Porter. I still think he's better though but that isn't the issue. The issue is both are very much overpaid. I don't want to pay either remotely that much so give me the option that gets us out of that contract the fastest.

sefant77 · 01-04-2019, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

People are pretending that Barnes is going to opt out of his 25mill this summer like it's a sure deal, but I'd wager that he opts in,

No one is pretending its a sure thing, but there is a really good chance. Of course he wont get another 25m/year deal but for him it could be the best option to secure another 4/80 deal.

Right now he is our 2nd go to guy with a high usage rate. He is one good FA (Randle etc) and an improved DSJ away from being a shared 3rd/4th fiddle in 19-20. Where he wont get the same amount touches, shots etc.His numbers would drop. Maybe add a shooting slump from outside etc. And if the teams spend again like crap next summer, the 2020 FA money could dry up (like it happened in 2017).

Next summer he can still sell him as a 20PPG wing with solid defense and good to great outside shooting. Someone missing out on the Tier A FA and desperately wanting to sign someone (like the Mavs in 2016) could easily throw 4/80 at him.

Or let him stay, become a 3rd/4th fiddle, dried up 2020 FA money....

EricaLubarsky · 01-04-2019, 11:58 AM

If we were to trade for Porter Jr.

Next year without a trade:
???/Powell (P.O.)/ ???
Barnes (P.O.)/???/???
???/???/???
Doncic/???/???
Smith/Brunson/???

51 million in contracts (about 58 million to work with) and five guys on the roster. If Barnes opts out (which he'd be dumb to do but may want a longer contract), then we'd have 83.1mill to offer, but only four contributing roster spots.

Next year if we traded Barnes for Porter:
???/Powell (P.O.)/ ???
Porter/???/???
???/???/???
Doncic/???/???
Smith/Brunson/???

53.2 million in contracts (about 55.8 million to work with) and five guys on the roster.

So if Barnes opts in, there's only about a 2.2 mill loss in cap next year.

sefant77 · 01-04-2019, 02:04 PM

The McDermott comparison for Porter is horrible...

And yeah, Porter would be a good fit. A much better fit than Barnes.And i like the Porter trade where we dump Powells useless 10 mio next season.

spreedom · 01-04-2019, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

The McDermott comparison for Porter is horrible...

And yeah, Porter would be a good fit. A much better fit than Barnes.And i like the Porter trade where we dump Powells useless 10 mio next season.

I get where people are going with McDermott... we would probably run the exact sets for OPJ that we did with Doug when he came here and shot like 52% from three. I bet we could get Porter to 42% from three on 7-8 attempts per game. If he can do that and play his typical standard of defense, he'd be the 2nd best player on our roster right now.

For those bemoaning the loss of cap flexibility for the summer of 2020.... who in that class do you want us to pursue instead? Not a very strong class. Should we really turn down a quality starter (albeit a slightly overpaid one) because we're going to sign Anthony Davis?

saclare · 01-04-2019, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

I get where people are going with McDermott... we would probably run the exact sets for OPJ that we did with Doug when he came here and shot like 52% from three. I bet we could get Porter to 42% from three on 7-8 attempts per game. If he can do that and play his typical standard of defense, he'd be the 2nd best player on our roster right now.

For those bemoaning the loss of cap flexibility for the summer of 2020.... who in that class do you want us to pursue instead? Not a very strong class. Should we really turn down a quality starter (albeit a slightly overpaid one) because we're going to sign Anthony Davis?

Thank you. No where was it mentioned that OPJ = McDermott. He would be an extremely better version and fit due to everything else he does other than shoot 3's, namely defense and rebounding.

I think the initial trade discussions from a Mavs FO perspective would be something like Matthews and Powell for OPJ, with obvious filler involved.

mac222b · 01-04-2019, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

I get where people are going with McDermott... we would probably run the exact sets for OPJ that we did with Doug when he came here and shot like 52% from three. I bet we could get Porter to 42% from three on 7-8 attempts per game. If he can do that and play his typical standard of defense, he'd be the 2nd best player on our roster right now.

For those bemoaning the loss of cap flexibility for the summer of 2020.... who in that class do you want us to pursue instead? Not a very strong class. Should we really turn down a quality starter (albeit a slightly overpaid one) because we're going to sign Anthony Davis?

OPJ could actually be a good trade asset, as a large soon- to- be expiring who can actually play, if a star changes teams in the next couple years.

I'm with Sefant, in that I'd only deal for OPJ if Powell is outgoing on our end. Then you are effectively paying Porter 17m next season, and the following season he opts out or is a large salary matching expiring contract. Barnes is likely opting out, preserving a max-ish spot just in case, assuming DAJ is back in the neighborhood of 15-17m. Or we could make a big offer for Vucevic and spend the leftover on a PF or SG.

Underdog · 01-04-2019, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

For those bemoaning the loss of cap flexibility for the summer of 2020.... who in that class do you want us to pursue instead? Not a very strong class. Should we really turn down a quality starter (albeit a slightly overpaid one) because we're going to sign Anthony Davis?

YES.

Because we ARE going to sign someone like Anthony Davis... You guys need to get over your Nobody-Wants-To-Play-With-Old-Dirk PTSD and look at what we have here with Luka. The kid is special, and I can absolutely see big name FAs wanting to play with him, even more so if two of them can come here at once. Fair or not, the kid has more hype around him at 19 than Dirk ever had at any point in his career. Players are taking notice.

And it's not just FAs, it's trades too... Having extra cap space can allow us to eat bad contracts in pursuit of a stud or facilitate multi-team deals -- and having an expiring Harrison Barnes gives us a solid financial/talent asset to put on the table (like, does a HB/DSJ package net you a bona fide All-Star?)

You don't aim for guys like Otto Porter Jr, you settle -- and there's no need for us to settle right now.

SMC0007 · 01-04-2019, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

YES.

Because we ARE going to sign someone like Anthony Davis... You guys need to get over your Nobody-Wants-To-Play-With-Old-Dirk PTSD and look at what we have here with Luka. The kid is special, and I can absolutely see big name FAs wanting to play with him, even more so if two of them can come here at once. Fair or not, the kid has more hype around him at 19 than Dirk ever had at any point in his career. Players are taking notice.

And it's not just FAs, it's trades too... Having extra cap space can allow us to eat bad contracts in pursuit of a stud or facilitate multi-team deals -- and having an expiring Harrison Barnes gives us a solid financial/talent asset to put on the table (like, does a HB/DSJ package net you a bona fide All-Star?)

You don't aim for guys like Otto Porter Jr, you settle -- and there's no need for us to settle right now.

Uh yea... duh. DIRK couldn't net big fish because his strong suit was jump shooting. Other than a handful of PGs what is the upside for other stars? Luka does it all but his passing and and IT factor is what sells the idea of guys playing with him. Big shot making helps a ton too.

A. Davis is a big target for every team who has the means to go after him but I think there's a solid argument for the Mavs being in the top 3, maybe top 2 destinations. Not just for him but for any big fish.

Underdog · 01-04-2019, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

A. Davis is a big target for every team who has the means to go after him but I think there's a solid argument for the Mavs being in the top 3, maybe top 2 destinations. Not just for him but for any big fish.

If you're a 26-year-old Anthony Davis looking at the next 4 years of your career, do you choose a 35-year-old LeBron over a 21-year-old Luka Doncic? I know what CP3 and D12 chose when considering a 35-year-old Dirk...

EricaLubarsky · 01-04-2019, 04:44 PM

PF free agents this summer (if we re-sign Jordan)

Durant - so long of a shot that it's not worth considering
Porzingis - center/PF who probably wouldn't play well with Jordan. Most likely of the bunch at that level if he's ever healthy again
Middleton - SF more than PF
Randle - seems like an excellent option. Rebounds, drives, and even has a jumper now
Tobias Harris - SF more than PF
Thaddeus Young - defent rebounding PF at 6'8"
Millsap - plays big for 6'8" and rebounds relatively well. Will he leave Nugs? Would he pair well with Doncic and Jordan in the frontcourt (defensively particularly but also offensively)
Jabari Parker - Again, more the size of a SF. Has regressed and wants out of Chicago. Could be had, but not sure about his fit with Doncic
Ariza - Good defense. More of a SF
Morris bros - More SFs, but worth a look
Oubre - 6'7 SF who can't rebound
Bogdanovic - 6'7" sharp shooter who struggles to defend or rebound (like Barnes)

saclare · 01-04-2019, 04:51 PM

Looking to confirm, but it also looks like Otto Porter, Jr. has a 15% trade kicker in his contract. I don't think I can get to a trade scenario that justifies paying him $30mm/year, even if we did the deal for Barnes/Powell. Even though I think OPJ would thrive here and be a better contributor overall to the team's success, that's hard to get around.

EricaLubarsky · 01-04-2019, 04:58 PM

C free agents if we opt to pass on Jordan
Hortford - 32 years old and 6'10". Might be worth a look, but may take a 30mill player option and not even hit FA
Cousins - hasn't played yet, but we'll see. He will want to move on for more money, but Lakers have money and Lebron.
Gasol - may be looking to get out with the rocky lockerroom. JJJ is promising, but not as much as Doncic, but he'll be 34 next season.
Deandre Jordan - Top 2-3 rebounder. One of the worst defensive centers. Gonna be 31
Vujecic - Decent rebounder. Good scorer with good hands. Just really bad on defense like Jordan, but two years younger.
Whiteside - Will he ever leave MIA after having such a rocky tenure there? Will he walk away from 27 mill next year (player option). 13/13/2.5 guy who does everything we need from a center (defense, rebounding, and ability to punish cheaters)
Howard - ha! No one wants Superman
Brook Lopez - Powell jr. Rebounds worse than Powell, but slightly more effective shooting jumpers
Valanciunas - 7 foot bruiser who rebounds with the best. Solid team defender. May be able to be pried from Toronto if Kawhi leaves
Kanter - Improving defensively. Really strong rebounding. Smart player who wants out of NYK according to rumors. May be traded to a place that makes him happier mid-season though.

Lots of good choices out there if we don't want Jordan. It may also bring down the prices or make some players available. The era of the 10-10 center demanding a max contract is over luckily.

mac222b · 01-04-2019, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

C free agents if we opt to pass on Jordan
KAT - wants huge money and thinks he's a star. Also restricted FA and Minn will keep him to sell tickets even if he's overpaid
Hortford - 32 years old and 6'10". Might be worth a look, but may take a 30mill player option and not even hit FA
Cousins - hasn't played yet, but we'll see. He will want to move on for more money, but Lakers have money and Lebron.
Gasol - may be looking to get out with the rocky lockerroom. JJJ is promising, but not as much as Doncic, but he'll be 34 next season.
Myles Turner - Another 6'11" Texas boy. 13pts, 7reb, 4blcks this year for Indy. Not a great rebounder, but worth a look as a 22 year old project. Definitely need defense inside, but our rebounding would look weak if we didn't pair him with a rebounding PF. Turner with Barnes would be a huge step back on the boards.
Deandre Jordan - Top 2-3 rebounder. One of the worst defensive centers. Gonna be 31
Vujecic - Decent rebounder. Good scorer with good hands. Just really bad on defense like Jordan, but two years younger.
Whiteside - Will he ever leave MIA after having such a rocky tenure there? Will he walk away from 27 mill next year (player option). 13/13/2.5 guy who does everything we need from a center (defense, rebounding, and ability to punish cheaters)
Howard - ha! No one wants Superman
Brook Lopez - Powell jr. Rebounds worse than Powell, but slightly more effective shooting jumpers
Valanciunas - 7 foot bruiser who rebounds with the best. Solid team defender. May be able to be pried from Toronto if Kawhi leaves
Kanter - Improving defensively. Really strong rebounding. Smart player who wants out of NYK according to rumors. May be traded to a place that makes him happier mid-season though.

Lots of good choices out there if we don't want Jordan. It may also bring down the prices or make some players available. The era of the 10-10 center demanding a max contract is over luckily.

Kat and Turner signed extensions

MavzMan · 01-04-2019, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

C free agents if we opt to pass on Jordan
Hortford - 32 years old and 6'10". Might be worth a look, but may take a 30mill player option and not even hit FA
Cousins - hasn't played yet, but we'll see. He will want to move on for more money, but Lakers have money and Lebron.
Gasol - may be looking to get out with the rocky lockerroom. JJJ is promising, but not as much as Doncic, but he'll be 34 next season.
Deandre Jordan - Top 2-3 rebounder. One of the worst defensive centers. Gonna be 31
Vujecic - Decent rebounder. Good scorer with good hands. Just really bad on defense like Jordan, but two years younger.
Whiteside - Will he ever leave MIA after having such a rocky tenure there? Will he walk away from 27 mill next year (player option). 13/13/2.5 guy who does everything we need from a center (defense, rebounding, and ability to punish cheaters)
Howard - ha! No one wants Superman
Brook Lopez - Powell jr. Rebounds worse than Powell, but slightly more effective shooting jumpers
Valanciunas - 7 foot bruiser who rebounds with the best. Solid team defender. May be able to be pried from Toronto if Kawhi leaves
Kanter - Improving defensively. Really strong rebounding. Smart player who wants out of NYK according to rumors. May be traded to a place that makes him happier mid-season though.

Lots of good choices out there if we don't want Jordan. It may also bring down the prices or make some players available. The era of the 10-10 center demanding a max contract is over luckily.

I don't know that I would go so far as "lots of good choices". It seems like DJ gets more bad than good credit from everyone on this board. He's #2 rebounding in the entire league. I'm not exactly ready to just let him walk and really don't think much of the FA options are much if any better.

Horford - no way is he leaving Boston with that kind of money on the table and quality team around him, AND in the East
Cousins - complete headcase and starting to break down physically?
Gasol - don't see him leaving Memphis
Vujevic - this is a good option
Whiteside - even more of a headcase than Cousins
Howard - ...... yeah, no.
Valancianus - another good option, but seems like to Toronto at least until Kawhaii leaves
Kanter - improving defensively? that's not saying much because he played zero defense while in OKC

So I see 2 good options that are younger than DJ who could possibly be lured away. Personally, I would like to see DJ stay and convince Randle to come here for the PF spot. Is this lineup possible? if so, it does sound pretty nice with the OPJ love right now ...

DJ
Randle
OPJ
Luka
DSJ

saclare · 01-04-2019, 05:04 PM

EL, you're solid when it comes to this type of information. Regarding trade kickers, I've seen conflicting information.

1) Is the increase restricted to the maximum value for that player?

2) Who pays the kicker? Trading team or receiving? I've seen trading team pays, while new team has to account for higher figure to the cap.

Not to prolong the OPJ talk, just genuinely curious.

sefant77 · 01-04-2019, 09:42 PM

I think "our" center targets next summer you can dial down on 2-3 names:

re-signing DJ (obv)

Vuje
(career season, little bit younger than DJ, stretch-5 etc), would be as example a better fit with Randle. At offense, Rick would love him, even with limited roll skills.

a wild card could be Thomas Bryant, if he keeps on playing like this and we dont want/cant sign DJ/Vuce.

Signing Randle as a smallball-5 (and no DJ/Vuce) is also an option, of course.

With re-signing DJ, there is of course this micro Durant pipedream (they are best buddies). Him selling Durant on Luka and the franchise.

Otherwise Randle should be one of the best and most realistic options:
Durant: lot of Knicks rumors
Porz: RFA, Knicks wont let him go
Kawhi: Woj pretty much say allready the Clippers are a done deal
Klay: stays...
Butler: dont think they wanna go down drama road
Cousins: same, a combination of the Rondo and Wes issues (character and achilles)
Harris: pretty much another Barnes
Middleton: Bucks blew a 1st to clear out salary, they are ready to PAY him
Bledsoe: Could be an option, if everything else fails. Future 3-Guard-Lineup.

So yeah, i think we are looking at something like DJ/Vuce+Randle. And depending on Barnes either more cap in 2019 or in 2020.

EricaLubarsky · 01-04-2019, 10:31 PM

We need a trade or a new coach

mac222b · 01-04-2019, 10:38 PM

Yeah I think Kawhi to LAC and AD to LAL May already be done deals. Celtics may trade for AD and try to sell him preemptively though

BigDog63 · 01-18-2019, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Yeah I think Kawhi to LAC

Kawhi might be interesting. While LAC fits into what many thought he was looking for (increased media exposure and associate revenue)....Kawhi is definitely his own dude. The players that have been with Toronto seemed to like it...I wouldn't actually be surprised if he stays. Can be THE man in Toronto (certainly a very major city), or one of the many men in LA, including being in LeBron's shadow there.

BigDog63 · 01-18-2019, 03:35 PM

Trade speculation ideas for DSJ

Some of these looked pretty good to me. Would be delighted if they could get that level of return for DSJ.

EricaLubarsky · 01-18-2019, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDog63

Trade speculation ideas for DSJ

Some of these looked pretty good to me. Would be delighted if they could get that level of return for DSJ.

Link-ception!

Me.B · 02-10-2019, 01:25 PM

What would you guys think about Draymond Green? Here more before saying no.

Golden State would obviously like to keep KD and Klay. In order to do that they are going to need to dump a contract. There has also been obvious beef between KD and Draymond. So it makes sense that in order to talk KD into staying the would have to get rid of Draymond.

The Mavs have a $25 mil trade exception. Draymond makes $18.5 next season and is then UFA in 2020. Trading for him also allows the Mavs to resign Maxi and DFS and doesn’t affect any long term plans. Worst case scenario with his expiring contract he becomes a trade chip at next year’s trade deadline.

As for on the court he brings some toughness, he can shoot, and he plays defense. He’s not a great rebounder but is solid.

saclare · 02-10-2019, 06:34 PM

Can't stand Draymond and think he is overrated as far as being floated by several other stars on his team. No thanks.

Edit: he also cannot shoot.

BPo001 · 02-10-2019, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

Can't stand Draymond and think he is overrated as far as being floated by several other stars on his team. No thanks.

Edit: he also cannot shoot.

Agreed. Hard pass.

MavzMan · 02-11-2019, 01:23 PM

I think Draymond is a perfect fit for the Warriors team but on any other team, he's not worth the money.

Me.B · 05-09-2019, 08:11 PM

So when exactly is the draft lottery?

If best case scenario happens and the Mavs end up with Ja Morant do you guys think they would consider trading him to Orlando in a pack deal Morant/THJ for Aaron Gordon? Would Orlando consider that?

Or from the Mavs perspective would they consider Ja Morant for Bamba?

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BPo001 · 05-09-2019, 08:55 PM

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So when exactly is the draft lottery?

If best case scenario happens and the Mavs end up with Ja Morant do you guys think they would consider trading him to Orlando in a pack deal Morant/THJ for Aaron Gordon? Would Orlando consider that?

Or from the Mavs perspective would they consider Ja Morant for Bamba?

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I think I’d rather have Isaac over Bamba. I think you could get something better than either of those trades though.

mac222b · 11-25-2019, 01:12 PM

Was just thinking about the TE for Courtney Lee. Who are some of the teams trying to duck the tax. Are OKC, Miami and Toronto still on that list? Any others? Wondering what kind of guy we could get for "free." I think guys like Steven Adams and especially Gallo will cost Courtney Lee +. Raptors look like contenders so they maybe won't sell on Ibaka, Gasol, Lowry, Powell...

Find ing a way to add Gallo to this group I think we are good for homecourt in the playoffs.

KP, Gallo, DFS, Delon, Luka would be a scary good closing group.

spreedom · 01-22-2020, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Was just thinking about the TE for Courtney Lee. Who are some of the teams trying to duck the tax. Are OKC, Miami and Toronto still on that list? Any others? Wondering what kind of guy we could get for "free." I think guys like Steven Adams and especially Gallo will cost Courtney Lee +. Raptors look like contenders so they maybe won't sell on Ibaka, Gasol, Lowry, Powell...

Find ing a way to add Gallo to this group I think we are good for homecourt in the playoffs.

KP, Gallo, DFS, Delon, Luka would be a scary good closing group.

Pretty close!

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-26-2019, 06:42 PM

Windhorst just mentioned the Mavs as possibly landing Andre Iguodala. Mmm, I'm kinda meh about that. If the B squad doesn't keep improving, then maybe, but DFS is playing pretty well so far.

SMC0007 · 11-26-2019, 07:49 PM

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Windhorst just mentioned the Mavs as possibly landing Andre Iguodala. Mmm, I'm kinda meh about that. If the B squad doesn't keep improving, then maybe, but DFS is playing pretty well so far.

Lateral at best

sefant77 · 11-26-2019, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Lateral at best

yep. my wish list:

wing upgrade like Otto Porter

a tough frontcourt player replacing Powell (defense and rebounding)

SMC0007 · 11-26-2019, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

yep. my wish list:

wing upgrade like Otto Porter

a tough frontcourt player replacing Powell (defense and rebounding)

I second that. Upgrade powell and dfs and they have a much better shot.

Thespiralgoeson · 11-27-2019, 12:02 AM

I just posted this in the Clippers GDT, but I'll repost here-

Outside of Luka, the Mavs roster is pretty awful. Most of the players are not individually awful, they're mostly okay rotational role players, but that's the entire roster. You're supposed to have like 4 of those type of players, and with the rest being quality impact players.

It's tough to say what the Mavs need going forward, because we kind of need everything. Like every other team in the league, we need 3 and D wing guys. I'd say we could really use a sort of old-school 4 who can rebound and play in the post, given how KP is awful in the post and is most effective as a spot up shooter. KP is a stretch 5, nothing more, nothing less. The sooner RC realizes that, the better. Most of all though, the Mavs DESPERATELY need another playmaker in the backcourt. Luka can't initiate the offense on every position. We need another quality perimeter player who can carry the offense when Luka is on the bench, as well as allow Luka to play off the ball a bit when he's on the floor. This will not only lighten the load on Luka, but also Luka's 3pt% should go up significantly if he actually starts getting open looks, instead of only taking that step-back.

MBT have their work cut out for them. Unfortunately the free agent class this season is garbage, and I don't feel like the Mavs have a whole lot in terms of trade assets, given how much we had to give up to get KP.