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Old 01-19-2012, 01:02 PM   #1
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PG: West (the guy delivered it while kidd's absences)
SG: Carter (still has some hops left)
SF: Marion (our energy guy)
PF: Dirk (go to guy)
C: Wood (I would play Mahimi depending on opponent)
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Nowitzki
Mahinmi
More energy in the starting lineup needed. Problem fixed.
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PG: Kidd
SG: West
SF: Marion
PF: Dirk
C: Haywood

Bench:
6. Terry
7. Mahinmi
8. Booby
9. Odom
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PG: Kidd
SG: West
SF: Marion
PF: Dirk
C: Haywood

Bench:
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7. Mahinmi
8. Booby
9. Odom
lol That has worked so far.
But yeah no doubt the bench should be a big part of our team. Carlisle taking away our depth by overplaying the starters kills our team.
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lol That has worked so far.
But yeah no doubt the bench should be a big part of our team. Carlisle taking away our depth by overplaying the starters kills our team.
i agree, becuz our benched outscored our starters in most games. But i wanna see Odom in the starting lineup for a couple of games; he hasnt been efficient off the bench
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The same.
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lol That has worked so far.
But yeah no doubt the bench should be a big part of our team. Carlisle taking away our depth by overplaying the starters kills our team.
It has worked except for three last second shots.
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i agree, becuz our benched outscored our starters in most games. But i wanna see Odom in the starting lineup for a couple of games; he hasnt been efficient off the bench
Our 2 best players are at SF and PF. Hard to find room for Odom. Maybe he needs to be traded.
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PG: Kidd
SG: West
SF: Marion
PF: Dirk
C: Haywood

Bench:
6. Terry
7. Mahinmi
8. Booby
9. Odom
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Our 2 best players are at SF and PF. Hard to find room for Odom. Maybe he needs to be traded.
i think odom is confused about who he is at this point, hes taking shots instead of distributing the ball. Hes gotta learn to be effective without the ball
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In the wise words of Avery. "play harder"

Odom needs to play a lot harder and quit settling. He could have an impact but he looks to be lazing about.
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PG: Kidd
SG: West
SF: Marion
PF: Dirk
C: Haywood

Bench:
6. Terry
7. Mahinmi
8. Booby
9. Odom
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Carter
Marion
Dirk
Wood

Kidd
Terry
Odom
Mahinmi
Beaubois
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Carter
Marion
Dirk
Wood

Kidd
Terry
Odom
Mahinmi
Beaubois
west starting at pg?
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Carter
Marion
Dirk
Haywood

It's about time that becomes our starting lineup tbh.
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carter
marion
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roddy
JET
Odom
Wright
MAhimi

Kidd: DNP Rest
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west starting at pg?
Why is that surprising? Were you not watching during our win streak?

This year West has a AST% of 27%. Kidd's is 26%.

West has a TO% of 17%. Kidd's is 28%

West is beating, and destroying Kidd in the 2 things Kidd is supposed to be best at.
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1st Unit:

PG West
SG Roddy
SF Marion
PF Dirk
C Mahinmi/Wood depending on opponent

2nd Unit

PG Kidd
SG Terry
SF Carter
PF Odom
C Mahinmi/Wood depending on opponent
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I don't have much of a problem with the starting lineup as it is. It hasn't been great, but it hasn't really been bad, either, and once Dirk gets his legs under him it should be in much better shape than it has been. That said, I'm having a hard time convincing myself that there's any good reason why Kidd should be playing more than 24 or so mpg right now. Add to that the fact that he's 100% guaranteed to be in the closing 5, and I remain receptive to the idea of a West/Carter starting backcourt; provided Vince didn't suffer something more serious than a sprain the other night, of course. That'd set Dallas up to start subbing in the direction of a Kidd/Jet/Vince/LO/Mahinmi lineup sometime around the 6 minute mark of the first and third quarters, and then mix and match from there up until the last 4-6 minutes of each half when the Kidd/JET/Marion/Dirk/Mahinmi group could close things out.
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West
Carter
Marion
Dirk
Haywood

Even though we've blown out teams like MIL, SAC and DET with this successful line-up, I reckon we need size at the SG
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It'll never happen but...

West
VC
Marion
Dirk
Wood

6. JET
7. Kidd
8. Ian
9. Odom
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PG: West
SG: Carter
SF: Marion
PF: Dirk
C: Haywood
^^^ This. Been saying this for two weeks now.
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The problem with starting West and Roddy is that you then don't have any size/length on the floor. IMO, that's a problem these days. I'm tired of our guards getting bullied around. I say start West and Vince, let Vince do the bullying.
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The problem with starting West and Roddy is that you then....
...have two "rookie" guards in the backcourt.



The right mix. is IMO Roddy or West + VC or JET or Kidd.




-------here is my rotation. (Rick will start Kidd. Period)

1st qtr -----------------------------

PG: Kidd 6min
SG: West 6min

PG: Jet 6min
SG: Carter 6min

2nd qtr -----------------------------

PG: Kidd 4min
SG: Roddy 4min

PG: Roddy 4min
SG: Jet 4min

PG: West 4min
SG: Jet 4min

3rd qtr ------------------------------

PG: Kidd 6min
SG: West 6min

PG: Jet 6min
SG: Carter 6min

4th qtr -------------------------------

PG: Kidd 4min
SG: Carter 4min

PG: Jet 4min
SG: Carter 4min

PG: Kidd 4min
SG: Jet 4min



Jet 28 min
Kidd 24 min
Carter 20min
West 16min
Roddy 8min

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West/Carter has already proven themselves. Unfortunately, Rick Carlisle doesn't care about that.
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If I was RC, I would keep doing the same things he is doing with the team every night.
The team has lots of potential-simply needs some time to get all rolling.
Cuban said it right at ESPN: Its just a question of time.

So say it loud, say it proud.
We are clearly a title favorite!
No need to panic.
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The minute variance between West and Kidd is nothing short of embarrassing.
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...have two "rookie" guards in the backcourt.



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how are you considering West a Rookie?
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West is a "rookie" on our team.

Carter is also new to our system, but he can compensate it with his overall experience.

I simply think that there should always be at least one experienced guy in the backcourt. Rooddy+West is too "shaky" for my taste.
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I like the rotation with the exception of West starting and not seeing anything after. I think West should get back in to close out the 1st and 3rd quarters giving Kidd a few minutes before the quarter break. Right now you're looking at kidd for all of the 1st and 3rd quarters and the last 4 of the 2nd and 4th quarters. I think we should pull Kidd with about 3 minutes left in the 1st and 3rd quarters.
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West is a "rookie" on our team.

Carter is also new to our system, but he can compensate it with his overall experience.

I simply think that there should always be at least one experienced guy in the backcourt. Rooddy+West is too "shaky" for my taste.
West have played the NBA finals and a lot of game in the PO...Carter was an all star but he never played very well in PO.i hope he could play well this year with us
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West have played the NBA finals and a lot of game in the PO...Carter was an all star but he never played very well in PO.i hope he could play well this year with us
he just didn't shoot the ball well consistently
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West is a "rookie" on our team.

Carter is also new to our system, but he can compensate it with his overall experience.
I simply think that there should always be at least one experienced guy in the backcourt. Rooddy+West is too "shaky" for my taste.
Makes no sense... to think Delonte is a rookie in any sense of the word. In fact, Delonte has played in 54 playoff games and VC has played in 56.
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I like the rotation with the exception of West starting and not seeing anything after. I think West should get back in to close out the 1st and 3rd quarters giving Kidd a few minutes before the quarter break. Right now you're looking at kidd for all of the 1st and 3rd quarters and the last 4 of the 2nd and 4th quarters. I think we should pull Kidd with about 3 minutes left in the 1st and 3rd quarters.
Kidd is a negative right now and especially on the offensive end so any talk that doesn't mention that he should get less minutes is ignorant. Obviously, I hope he plays better but his overall play is poor. Kidd hit a shot!!!

I actually like Kidd and West playing together because they are smart and think similarly, but without Kidd playing better, I can't advise any lineup with Kidd in it.
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