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thewizard · 01-31-2019, 03:44 PM

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Let's try that again: Dallas is finalizing a deal to land Kristaps Porzingis, league sources tell ESPN.

saclare · 01-31-2019, 03:44 PM

Need to know the status of his ACL but hot damn.

thewizard · 01-31-2019, 03:46 PM

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Per @TheSteinLine, it's gonna be Porzingis, Hardaway and Courtney Lee to the Mavs; Dennis Smith, DeAndre, Wes Matthews and a pick to the Knicks.

thewizard · 01-31-2019, 03:46 PM

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The deal being close to be finalized between Dallas and New York is Kristaps Porzingis, Courtney Lee, Tim Hardaway Jr. for Dennis Smith Jr., DeAndre Jordan, Wes Matthews, and a pick, per league sources.

The Knicks would also have to add one $1.5M player to make salaries work.

AO41 · 01-31-2019, 03:47 PM

OMG...I was reading all the KP stuff earlier and though hmm wonder if we would. Then I just get a text that we are....WHATTTTT

Skywalker · 01-31-2019, 03:48 PM

What is this "future first round draft compesation" Stein is talking about? We can't trade picks now right?

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-31-2019, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AO41

OMG...I was reading all the KP stuff earlier and though hmm wonder if we would. Then I just get a text that we are....WHATTTTT

People were questioning Jordan being out with a mysterious illness, then his failed meeting with the Knicks, then the preferred trade...then boom. Plus, Donnie traveled to NY last night. It all came together.

thewizard · 01-31-2019, 03:53 PM

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New York has agreed with Dallas on trade that includes Kristaps Porzingis, Courtney Lee, Tim Hardaway Jr., for Wesley Matthews, Dennis Smith Jr. and DeAndre Jordan, league sources tell ESPN. Players and agents are being notified of particulars. Deal may include more draft assets.

Shams Charania

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Sources: New York and Dallas have agreed in principle on a trade sending package around Kristaps Porzingis for Dennis Smith Jr. Wes Matthews, other contracts, and picks going to New York, and Tim Hardaway Jr., Trey Burke among players going to Dallas. Sides finishing final terms.

Side note: How do you guys embed tweets on this forum?

Underdog · 01-31-2019, 03:54 PM

WOOD.

AO41 · 01-31-2019, 03:56 PM

VERY NICE

I wonder if we see Barnes move as well now?

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-31-2019, 03:58 PM

Trey Burke is interesting inclusion if he is included. Knicks fans just jumped off a cliff.

BPo001 · 01-31-2019, 03:59 PM

EricaLubarsky · 01-31-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AO41

VERY NICE

I wonder if we see Barnes move as well now?

I think we have to.

Porzingis is great, but he really struggles to rebound. Can't play Barnes and Porzingis together or we'll lose the rebounding race even worse

Skywalker · 01-31-2019, 03:59 PM

So is it Burke or Lee that we're getting? Or both? (also, does it matter? lol)

Melonhead · 01-31-2019, 04:02 PM

Not completely on board with this but whatever. Rather trade Barnes than Wes, and we have no rebounding now.

EricaLubarsky · 01-31-2019, 04:02 PM

Porzingis/Powell
Barnes/Dirk/Kleber
Doncic/DFS
Hardaway/Lee/Harris
Burke/Brunson/???

EricaLubarsky · 01-31-2019, 04:03 PM

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Not completely on board with this but whatever. Rather trade Barnes than Wes, and we have no rebounding now.

We're tanking to keep that pick

Mavs gonna be real bad this season until Zingis gets healthy

thewizard · 01-31-2019, 04:03 PM

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Sources: Full players involved in Knicks/Mavericks deal:

Kristaps Porzingis, Tim Hardaway Jr., Courtney Lee, Trey Burke to Dallas.

Dennis Smith Jr., Wes Matthews, DeAndre Jordan and likely first-round draft pick compensation to New York.

AO41 · 01-31-2019, 04:04 PM

I hope KP comes back healthy because with Luaks all around game and KPs scoring...we should be sooo good.

j0Shi · 01-31-2019, 04:05 PM

WOW.

So this has obviously been in the works for a while. There is like zero chance KP walks into the Knicks office, says "trade me", and an hour later all is done. Somebody theorized on Twitter that New York leaked this to put the blame on Kirstaps before trading him. Makes sense.

If KP will return to 100% health this is obviously a steal. Turning Dennis, cap room, and whatever pick into a top 20 player, my goodness! Especially since the Knicks could have drafted Dennis last year lol.

j0Shi · 01-31-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Not completely on board with this but whatever. Rather trade Barnes than Wes, and we have no rebounding now.

No way Knicks take multi-year contracts. They want all the cap space this summer. Let's hope they move Barnes in a separate deal.

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-31-2019, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

So is it Burke or Lee that we're getting? Or both? (also, does it matter? lol)

Both I think.

Melonhead · 01-31-2019, 04:08 PM

Cant believe I missed the last game of Wes, Dennis, and DJ as a Mav last night :tear:

Gonna go back and watch tonight. Bittersweet day.

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-31-2019, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Not completely on board with this but whatever. Rather trade Barnes than Wes, and we have no rebounding now.

Mavs seem to love Barnes, but come on, Wes going out is one of the best things about the trade. I don't like moving DSJ, but for Kristaps? Gotta do it.

EricaLubarsky · 01-31-2019, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Cant believe I missed the last game of Wes, Dennis, and DJ as a Mav last night :tear:

Gonna go back and watch tonight. Bittersweet day.

Wait, is that sarcasm?

Only way I could be happier is if we also dumped Barnes and Powell.

thewizard · 01-31-2019, 04:13 PM

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Sources: All-Star Kristaps Porzingis is planning to inform the Dallas Mavericks his intent is to sign the qualifying offer in restricted free agency this summer.

Wait a second. Why is he taking the qualified offer? Wouldn't we want to just lock him down with an extension?

Melonhead · 01-31-2019, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Mavs seem to love Barnes, but come on, Wes going out is one of the best things about the trade. I don't like moving DSJ, but for Kristaps? Gotta do it.

Honestly I think moving DJ Im most bittersweet about it. Not mad, because its KP, but I just liked having him in Dallas. With the Barnes/Wes thing is we need more of Wes 3 than Barnes scoring, so rather move on from him first. But like joshi said, maybe theyll move him in a separate deal.

Wang Zhi Zhi · 01-31-2019, 04:14 PM

OK, so what is NY's play with this? Just getting something before KP bolts this summer as a FA? Not sold KP will recover from the injury?

And is KP a complete unrestricted FA this summer, and do we get any early-Bird rights or anything like that? Trying to figure out why we just wait until the summer to go after him

Melonhead · 01-31-2019, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thewizard

Shams Charania
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Sources: All-Star Kristaps Porzingis is planning to inform the Dallas Mavericks his intent is to sign the qualifying offer in restricted free agency this summer.

Wait a second. Why is he taking the qualified offer? Wouldn't we want to just lock him down with an extension?

Damn we getting fleeced?

EricaLubarsky · 01-31-2019, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thewizard

Shams Charania
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Sources: All-Star Kristaps Porzingis is planning to inform the Dallas Mavericks his intent is to sign the qualifying offer in restricted free agency this summer.

Wait a second. Why is he taking the qualified offer? Wouldn't we want to just lock him down with an extension?

He only has three options
1) Sign the QO, become an RFA
2) Not sign the QO, become a UFA
3) Sign an extension

If we haven't talked about an extension, which we may be silly to do yet, then signing the QO is the better option.

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-31-2019, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thewizard

Shams Charania
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Sources: All-Star Kristaps Porzingis is planning to inform the Dallas Mavericks his intent is to sign the qualifying offer in restricted free agency this summer.

Wait a second. Why is he taking the qualified offer? Wouldn't we want to just lock him down with an extension?

Good news is if he isn't healthy, then you won't be locked in it. But indeed that is a bit strange.

EricaLubarsky · 01-31-2019, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wang Zhi Zhi

OK, so what is NY's play with this? Just getting something before KP bolts this summer as a FA? Not sold KP will recover from the injury?

And is KP a complete unrestricted FA this summer, and do we get any early-Bird rights or anything like that? Trying to figure out why we just wait until the summer to go after him

He's an RFA this summer, not a UFA. He will get the QO and return next year. If another team gives him a huge offer, we match and it's basically an extension.

We also get full bird rights because his three years of service comes with him. We can sign him up to the max (supermax?)

EricaLubarsky · 01-31-2019, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Good news is if he isn't healthy, then you won't be locked in it. But indeed that is a bit strange.

We'd be silly to offer him an extension before playing a game.

QO locks him up for AT LEAST one more year. IF another team offers him anything, we match and lock him in to a longer deal.

Honestly QO is the best.

1) If someone offers him money, we can match and it may actually save us money.
2) If no one offers, we can work on an extension all next year.

BPo001 · 01-31-2019, 04:19 PM

Skin said something about him signing the QO and that gives him a cap hold. We can then sign other FA and go over the cap to resign KP. For the Knicks they have 3 lottery picks and cap room this summer. They could possibly sign 3 max players this summer?

Skywalker · 01-31-2019, 04:19 PM

This QO shit kinda worries me, tbh. Guess we'll see

Melonhead · 01-31-2019, 04:19 PM

Welp Dallas just gained a ton of fans (and bandwagon fans)

ozmavs123 · 01-31-2019, 04:20 PM

This is an amazing deal, well done to the front office

We get a young superstar for three guys who weren’t in our future plans

Dtownsfinest · 01-31-2019, 04:26 PM

Hope this means full out tank.

Skywalker · 01-31-2019, 04:28 PM

So I have two questions. First, how are we trading a first round pick? And second how's our cap situation now?

thewizard · 01-31-2019, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Skin said something about him signing the QO and that gives him a cap hold. We can then sign other FA and go over the cap to resign KP. For the Knicks they have 3 lottery picks and cap room this summer. They could possibly sign 3 max players this summer?

Yeah I'm just going to have faith that this is some cap shenanigans or something. No way we'd trade for Porzingis only to let him go as a UFA. I saw one tweet that said he won't meet the starter criteria this year so his cap hold will go down from 7.5 mil to 4.5 mil. That's potentially another 3 million in cap space to sign other players. I dunno.