2019-2020 NBA Season Thread - Page 22 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Dtownsfinest · 11-17-2020, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Three first round picks for Holiday. Whoa.

AND two pick swaps. That will screw them if Giannis doesn't extend.

To do it they must have a guarantee from Giannis.

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-17-2020, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Pok if he’s there.

That definitely takes them out of the running with the support guys. They need a whole new team

In that case I think that improves our draft prospects providing we don't trade the pick.

I don't think we will.

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-17-2020, 01:24 AM

Bogdonavic to Milwauke via sign and trade. Yep, Giannis is staying.

spreedom · 11-17-2020, 01:27 AM

Time for Plan B for the Mavs

Thespiralgoeson · 11-17-2020, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

Time for Plan B for the Mavs

Plan B was Holiday... What's Plan C?

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Plan B was Holiday... What's Plan C?

If you're talking about 2021 free agents, I think they like Hayward a lot.

But, I'm not sure what to expect. Part of me thinks the opportunities will be better with the space (and not just signing free agents) than anything that's out there now, and part of me is screaming "GET HIELD" inside.

It must be really difficult to be a GM.

Thespiralgoeson · 11-17-2020, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerLeft

If you're talking about 2021 free agents, I think they like Hayward a lot.

But, I'm not sure what to expect. Part of me thinks the opportunities will be better with the space (and not just signing free agents) than anything that's out there now, and part of me is screaming "GET HIELD" inside.

It must be really difficult to be a GM.

UGH!

I swear to god, I was just looking at the 2021 free agents list and thinking, "god that would suck so bad if it ended up being someone like Hayward."

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Plan B was Holiday... What's Plan C?

Pray for Beal?

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

UGH!

I swear to god, I was just looking at the 2021 free agents list and thinking, "god that would suck so bad if it ended up being someone like Hayward."

Hayward is still a really good player. But yeah, not exactly what we were hoping for.

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

UGH!

I swear to god, I was just looking at the 2021 free agents list and thinking, "god that would suck so bad if it ended up being someone like Hayward."

I think they toyed with a sign and trade for him THIS year, tbh. I have heard that they like him, he likes them and wants to be here. That's where all the opt out talk came from. Dallas didn't want to pay him his number (he wants Horford money) because of Giannis (assumed) and so he has been weighing an offer from Atlanta against opting in and getting traded wherever the hell Boston wants to send him for weeks.

SO...if all of that is true, raising the offer for him and negotiating a sign and trade with Boston is very likely to get another look from the Mavs tomorrow.

Brace yourself.

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Hayward is still a really good player. But yeah, not exactly what we were hoping for.

Yeah, if healthy, he'd fit like a glove. But, he has been off of fans' radars ever since he signed in Boston and started getting hurt, so I wouldn't think it would be very popular.

Thespiralgoeson · 11-17-2020, 02:43 AM

I have no doubt that he can still play, but we need wing defenders BADLY. And some f**king athleticism wouldn't hurt either.

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

I have no doubt that he can still play, but we need wing defenders BADLY. And some f**king athleticism wouldn't hurt either.

I hear you. I just think they're way more focused on adding a second player who can drive and make plays to pair with Luka. That's literally all Donnie or Carlisle ever talk about..."secondary playmaker"..."take pressure off of Luka"...etc.

I feel like they believe this should be done BEFORE they spend on role players, so as not to paint themselves into any corners, fit wise.

But, then again, I've got buddies who strongly believe this whole off season is about trading up in the draft to get a guy they think might be a "star."

I honestly don't know what to expect now that Giannis is off the board. I just hope they don't panic and do something stupid.

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

I have no doubt that he can still play, but we need wing defenders BADLY. And some f**king athleticism wouldn't hurt either.

It's superficial and reductive, I know, but I do feel like adding Hayward or Gallo would officially bring in a bunch of "why do they only like white guys in Dallas" questions from NBA twitter. lol.

Thespiralgoeson · 11-17-2020, 02:54 AM

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Man, this offseason is already looking rough for the Bucks. More and more I'm thinking Giannis will leave. Everyone assumed CP3 was their main target, but apparently they also really wanted Schroder but got outbid by the Lakers- which seems incredible to me. Were they really not willing to trade the 24th pick?

Well that was fun while it lasted. For like six hours, I really thought we were gonna have a shot at Giannis.

That's bad enough, but I always figured that if we couldn't get Giannis, Holiday would be a very nice consolation prize.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to walk into oncoming traffic.

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

I have no doubt that he can still play, but we need wing defenders BADLY. And some f**king athleticism wouldn't hurt either.

Hayward is a solid wing defender. Not as athletic as he used to be but a good rebounder too. I’m not disagreeing with you. I’d prefer someone even more athletic and even better defensively. Of course if you combined that with Hayward’s skill level you’d have an NBA player.

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerLeft

I hear you. I just think they're way more focused on adding a second player who can drive and make plays to pair with Luka. That's literally all Donnie or Carlisle ever talk about..."secondary playmaker"..."take pressure off of Luka"...etc.

I feel like they believe this should be done BEFORE they spend on role players, so as not to paint themselves into any corners, fit wise.

But, then again, I've got buddies who strongly believe this whole off season is about trading up in the draft to get a guy they think might be a "star."

I honestly don't know what to expect now that Giannis is off the board. I just hope they don't panic and do something stupid.

I’m all aboard the secondary playmaker bandwagon. Our biggest need imho. I think between Maxi and DFS and whoever we draft and sign with MLE we can cobble together a pretty good defensive wing rotation for next season, and maybe more if we strike lucky in the draft and MLE.

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 03:09 AM

And I agree, Killer Left, about panic moves. No need to rush out and push in our chips. This season will be weird for every team. KP and Powell working back from injuries. Go for the next player on your board. Worst case, we have MLE and two nice picks incoming.

EricaLubarsky · 11-17-2020, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

And I agree, Killer Left, about panic moves. No need to rush out and push in our chips. This season will be weird for every team. KP and Powell working back from injuries. Go for the next player on your board. Worst case, we have MLE and two nice picks incoming.

1) We have no cap space
2) We have like 13 guys on the roster. 14 if we are planning on re-signing JJB too so we don't even have a place for our two picks this year.
3) Our guys we do have largely have a negative value
4) The only money we have for FAs is the MLE

Mt expectations are pretty low.

EricaLubarsky · 11-17-2020, 10:38 AM

New Orleans receives

2020 1st (via IND)
2024 right to swap
2025 1st unprotected
2026 right to swap
2027 1st unprotected

tap2390 · 11-17-2020, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

New Orleans receives

2020 1st (via IND)
2024 right to swap
2025 1st unprotected
2026 right to swap
2027 1st unprotected

Pelicans played the Bucks like a fiddle.

EricaLubarsky · 11-17-2020, 11:11 AM

@worldwidewob
NASH: final play, who wants the ball?
DURANT: you serious?
HARDEN: get the rebound and it’s yours.
KYRIE: i already shot it.

EricaLubarsky · 11-17-2020, 03:34 PM

Hornets front runner for Westbrook

KillerLeft · 11-17-2020, 04:38 PM

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Hornets front runner for Westbrook

OMG, imagine being a Hornets fan.

Constant pain. I bet they're truly excited about that.

tap2390 · 11-17-2020, 04:55 PM

Good move for the Hornets, they'll at least be relevant in the East with Westbrook + whatever the Rockets give up to unload him + James Wiseman.

Dtownsfinest · 11-17-2020, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerLeft

OMG, imagine being a Hornets fan.

Constant pain. I bet they're truly excited about that.

I don't know man....Russell Westbrook would probably be the best player to ever step foot there. Actually I know he will. Sucks they can't get someone that's not a guard since they have Rozier and Graham but beggars can't be choosers.

Dtownsfinest · 11-17-2020, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Good move for the Hornets, they'll at least be relevant in the East with Westbrook + whatever the Rockets give up to unload him + James Wiseman.

I agree man. I actually think its a smart move.

mac222b · 11-17-2020, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

1) We have no cap space
2) We have like 13 guys on the roster. 14 if we are planning on re-signing JJB too so we don't even have a place for our two picks this year.
3) Our guys we do have largely have a negative value
4) The only money we have for FAs is the MLE

Mt expectations are pretty low.

That’s what I meant. Use the MLE if a guy(s) you like is there. Don’t make panic trades with future firsts and salaries for a some geezer.

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-17-2020, 06:04 PM

OMFG could this offseason be any better with regards to our friends down 45?

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...35383606587397

Dtownsfinest · 11-17-2020, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

OMFG could this offseason be any better with regards to our friends down 45?

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...35383606587397

Honestly its for the best. I'd rather they keep Westbrook and Harden then get rid of them lol. If they can get Dinwiddie and Levert for Harden they would've improved.

EricaLubarsky · 11-17-2020, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

OMFG could this offseason be any better with regards to our friends down 45?

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...35383606587397

Mavs may have been subpar, but man that is a fun trainwreck to watch.

MFFL · 11-18-2020, 05:42 PM

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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The Sixers are trading Al Horford and a first-round and second-round pick to the Thunder for Danny Green, sources tell ESPN.

MFFL · 11-18-2020, 05:45 PM

Bucks-Kings trade for Bogdan Bogdanovic in peril: Sources

https://theathletic.com/news/bucks-k...e/yxQySJdNY8NT

BPo001 · 11-18-2020, 05:53 PM

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Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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The Sixers are trading Al Horford and a first-round and second-round pick to the Thunder for Danny Green, sources tell ESPN.

Wow big price to pay by Philly to offload Horford and that contract.

EricaLubarsky · 11-18-2020, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

Bucks-Kings trade for Bogdan Bogdanovic in peril: Sources

https://theathletic.com/news/bucks-k...e/yxQySJdNY8NT

I'll take him

MFFL · 11-18-2020, 06:24 PM

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Warriors star Klay Thompson suffered an apparent lower leg injury today and is undergoing tests to determine severity, sources tell
@TheAthleticNBA

BPo001 · 11-18-2020, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Warriors star Klay Thompson suffered an apparent lower leg injury today and is undergoing tests to determine severity, sources tell
@TheAthleticNBA

Yikes. Hopefully it’s not serious.

sefant77 · 11-18-2020, 06:59 PM

Well...im fine with them never reaching the Playoffs again...didnt miss them one bit last season

EricaLubarsky · 11-18-2020, 07:20 PM

Jeez

MFFL · 11-18-2020, 07:29 PM

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
The Kings and Milwaukee Bucks had hoped to bring Bogdanovic the framework of a sign-and-trade to negotiate a Bodanovic contract with Milwaukee on Friday, but he will move into the marketplace to find an offer sheet or seek out other sign-and-trade scenarios, sources said.

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
Sacramento Kings forward Bogdan Bogdanovic plans to enter restricted free agency on Friday at 6 PM ET, sources tell ESPN.