03-15-2010, 08:50 PM
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Tim Legler picks Mavs over Cavs in finals
Saw it on the half time show, he is also basically said Dirk can't shoulder a load as he just isn't that complete of an offensive player
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03-15-2010, 08:55 PM
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You say it in Brazil, you say Dirk, they know Nowitzki. You say it in China,
they know Nowitzki. Kobe, Michael, DIRK." - Jeff Van Gundy
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03-15-2010, 08:56 PM
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03-15-2010, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mavs777
Saw it on the half time show, he is also basically said Dirk can't shoulder a load as he just isn't that complete of an offensive player
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^Perhaps i am mistaken, but I think several complex things may be at work inside Legler saying that.
In addition to it being somewhat true, I think he also may proudly declare it, in order to justify his pick, or at least to justofy it to those who assume he has a bias in making it.
Tim Legler is a german-american, and would by nature have a bias to like Nowitzki's team, but may wish to guard any obvious bias by declaring Nowitzki's weakness after heaping so much praise-in-expectation upon a team led by him.
Again, pehaps I mistaken, but aside fro many speculation as to Legler's pick, let me add this:
Legler has been a more accurate forecaster than any other ESPN analyst, and while that not be saying much, I believe very much Legler's forecasts are made with the highest degre of intelligence and saavy.
Another point he made about the lakers is one I myself predicted on inside hoops before I got banned. I stated that Ariza, at a younger age, and for less $, already perfectly filled the needs of LA from that position, and that LA would only hope Artest could deliver the same sopt0up 3's and great defense that Ariza brought to the table. Perhaps this could be due to my bias in favor of Ariza, but nonetheless i think Legler is right to point this out as to why LA is a worse team this year, and that is just one more reason for him choosing our Dallas mavericks to go the finals.
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03-15-2010, 09:04 PM
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thats a nice 5 minutes of fame
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03-15-2010, 09:49 PM
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Legler has always been a hack, Dullah must be a relative.
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03-15-2010, 09:56 PM
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I never cared for Legler either. Though it's nice to get some recognition.
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03-15-2010, 10:18 PM
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They could do it, if they ever learned to rebound the basketball.
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03-16-2010, 12:33 AM
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Yeah, Dirk's never shouldered a load.
This prediction is total BS, if RC decides to keep up with the 3 guard lineup and no centers game plan and players slack off.
IF-(a huge if) everyone actually plays like they care and they have some sort of pride and play defense consistently and play smart..it could be possible. But this Cavs team is pretty strong. Even if LBJ were shut down like he was in the 2007 Finals, Jamison/Shaq/Flopper are all capable of inflicting damage. It would be incredibly difficult.
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03-16-2010, 12:52 AM
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Hi, I'm Tim Legler and I'm just looking for some attention.
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03-16-2010, 03:32 AM
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Legler's an idiot and a talking head. The fact that he's giving the Mavs some love doesn't change that.
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03-16-2010, 09:20 AM
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Put Legler and Hollinger in a ring and let them duke it out....
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03-16-2010, 09:54 AM
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If we ever made it to the finals and had to play the Cavs it would be tremendously hard to win. They're so deep, they have the best player in the game, and we still have to wonder if Stern will let us win a ring this time around. I don't mean to be a debbie downer but us vs the Cavs in the finals would be us against so many odds. But imagine if we somehow won...
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03-16-2010, 10:30 AM
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Reflecting which teams crashed out unexpectedly in the first round, i call such predictions bull.
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03-16-2010, 10:30 AM
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I can't fathom winning. It's too unbelievable for Dirk to win a ring, here. My mind can't realistically wrap around that at this time unfortunately. It's like some dark cloud is hovering over this citys sports since the famous parade plans. Maybe next year when we get a little more help.
We are expected to get past an extremely tough western conference then beat the Cleveland Sterns and his precious LBJ . yeah right. That would be cause for a N.O. Saints like celebration around here! Imo, We could be looking at worst case scenario: OKC who to me is scarier than phx, DEN, L.A. then CAVS. That would be a supreme feat.
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03-16-2010, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
I can't fathom winning. It's too unbelievable for Dirk to win a ring, here. My mind can't realistically wrap around that at this time unfortunately. It's like some dark cloud is hovering over this citys sports since the famous parade plans. Maybe next year when we get a little more help.
We are expected to get past an extremely tough western conference then beat the Cleveland Sterns and his precious LBJ . yeah right. That would be cause for a N.O. Saints like celebration around here! Imo, We could be looking at worst case scenario: OKC who to me is scarier than phx, DEN, L.A. then CAVS. That would be a supreme feat.
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OKC will be scary 2 years from now, right now, our experience will get us by them in a relatively short series 4-1. Once OKC learns the ropes of a playoff grind, they will be scary. Cle will be scary, we will get a well rested Lebron, he's learning bits from what Kobe and MJ have done, run the marathon. Plus with the ultimate playoff halfcourt player in Shaq.......very, very unfavorable matchup.
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03-16-2010, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma
OKC will be scary 2 years from now, right now, our experience will get us by them in a relatively short series 4-1. Once OKC learns the ropes of a playoff grind, they will be scary. Cle will be scary, we will get a well rested Lebron, he's learning bits from what Kobe and MJ have done, run the marathon. Plus with the ultimate playoff halfcourt player in Shaq.......very, very unfavorable matchup.
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LOL Shaq is done. Even if he had some left, we got Dampier and Haywood who are great against traditional centers. And OKC is the worst first round matchup we could possibly get. I'll take the Spurs.
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03-16-2010, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000
LOL Shaq is done. Even if he had some left, we got Dampier and Haywood who are great against traditional centers. And OKC is the worst first round matchup we could possibly get. I'll take the Spurs.
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True, I guess I still see the Shaq circa 2002.
I don't know, OKC has never been there, Kidd-Dirk, will get in the officials ears. Though I can see Westbrook being a difference maker against Kidd, but without a patented jump shot, Kidd should be able to handle him man to man.
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03-16-2010, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma
True, I guess I still see the Shaq circa 2002.
I don't know, OKC has never been there, Kidd-Dirk, will get in the officials ears. Though I can see Westbrook being a difference maker against Kidd, but without a patented jump shot, Kidd should be able to handle him man to man.
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Westbrook runs circles around Kidd. He has done whatever he wants for the most part. We have flat out gotten beat by OKC and I do not like that matchup. I would rather have Phx, S.A., Portland and maybe even Utah. Idk, I get flashbacks of when we beat Utah out of nowhere a long time ago in the first round.
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03-16-2010, 05:26 PM
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I remember somebody from ESPN picking the Mavs to meet the Bulls in the 2007 NBA Finals and we all know how that turned out, I like Tim Legler and I'm suprised he didn't pick the Lakers to win.
I have alot of faith in this team but alot and I mean alot of things have to happen for the Mavs to win the NBA Title, it's hard to beat the Cavs and the refs unless the Mavs play like the Magic did last season.
If our Mavs just happen to win the title that would shut alot of the haters up and make them forget about the Heat and Golden State beating the Mavs.
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03-17-2010, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Thomas86
I remember somebody from ESPN picking the Mavs to meet the Bulls in the 2007 NBA Finals and we all know how that turned out, I like Tim Legler and I'm suprised he didn't pick the Lakers to win.
I have alot of faith in this team but alot and I mean alot of things have to happen for the Mavs to win the NBA Title, it's hard to beat the Cavs and the refs unless the Mavs play like the Magic did last season.
If our Mavs just happen to win the title that would shut alot of the haters up and make them forget about the Heat and Golden State beating the Mavs.
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if that happened, i could finally die and rest in peace. I'd probably go get that honda CBR RR that i want, and then proceed to kill myself on the beltway. at least i'd die satisfied
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03-17-2010, 12:50 AM
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This is funny. We spent the better part of a week railing on Hollinger for hating on the Mavs. Now Legler picks us to win it all and everybody's like "f**k him!"...I love this board.
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03-17-2010, 02:07 AM
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This is funny. We spent the better part of a week railing on Hollinger for hating on the Mavs. Now Legler picks us to win it all and everybody's like "f**k him!"...I love this board.
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I've heard him be negative about the mavs many times. Surprised he actually changed his tune but am still bitter every time he made a reason the mavs weren't for real. Back then Greg Anthony was our supporter sort of.
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03-17-2010, 02:22 AM
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This is funny. We spent the better part of a week railing on Hollinger for hating on the Mavs. Now Legler picks us to win it all and everybody's like "f**k him!"...I love this board.
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^ this
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03-17-2010, 09:27 AM
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Many on this board are apparently born losers who see difficult odds and accept certain defeat without taking the risk of competing & incurring loss.
This mindstate is loathsome.
I would say the Dallas Mavericks this year have the 3rd best odds of winning the title. I'll take that.
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03-17-2010, 03:52 PM
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Tim Legler------smartest sports analyst in the world!!!!!1
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03-17-2010, 07:37 PM
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03-22-2010, 09:02 PM
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Tim Legler must not pay attention to the Mavericks all that much, because if he did he'd know the squad is as mentally weak/soft as they come. Go up on the Miami Heat and become one of the few teams in NBA playoff history to blow a 2-0 lead, become the first 1 seed to lose to an 8 seed, after winning 67 FUCKING games that season.
If we win the chip, i won't believe it until Dirk and Kidd are kissing the trophy and holding up peace signs while covered in confetti. Bad things have always happened to this team and we always lose in the most impossible ways. We're like the Buffalo Bills and the Minnesota Vikings, trying to find out what happened to all those missing rings.
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03-22-2010, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JCmasta
Tim Legler must not pay attention to the Mavericks all that much, because if he did he'd know the squad is as mentally weak/soft as they come. Go up on the Miami Heat and become one of the few teams in NBA playoff history to blow a 2-0 lead, become the first 1 seed to lose to an 8 seed, after winning 67 FUCKING games that season.
If we win the chip, i won't believe it until Dirk and Kidd are kissing the trophy and holding up peace signs while covered in confetti. Bad things have always happened to this team and we always lose in the most impossible ways. We're like the Buffalo Bills and the Minnesota Vikings, trying to find out what happened to all those missing rings.
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1.)The Miami Heat only won the finals coz they got the biggest X-factor in the game gunning for them: David Stern.
2.) Dallas was not the first 1st seed to lose to an 8th seed. In 1999, the 8th seeded New York Knicks and Ewing trashed the 1st seed Miami Heat-Mourning and went on to meet Timmy and the Admiral in the Finals.
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03-23-2010, 12:51 AM
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1.)The Miami Heat only won the finals coz they got the biggest X-factor in the game gunning for them: David Stern.
2.) Dallas was not the first 1st seed to lose to an 8th seed. In 1999, the 8th seeded New York Knicks and Ewing trashed the 1st seed Miami Heat-Mourning and went on to meet Timmy and the Admiral in the Finals.
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I never bought the whole blame David Stern argument for that debacle. The Mavs were up 2-0. 2-0. GOING HOME. Mavs got outplayed by Wade and the Heat. Wade got bailed out by going to the free throw line. Mavs settled for jumpers. Spurs won 5 championships. They bring no ratings. They don't bring much when it comes to popularity. So why on earth would Stern allow them to win a championship? Five times at that?
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03-23-2010, 01:02 AM
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I never bought the whole blame David Stern argument for that debacle. The Mavs were up 2-0. 2-0. GOING HOME. Mavs got outplayed by Wade and the Heat. Wade got bailed out by going to the free throw line. Mavs settled for jumpers. Spurs won 5 championships. They bring no ratings. They don't bring much when it comes to popularity. So why on earth would Stern allow them to win a championship? Five times at that?
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Gosh, even Spurs fans don't claim they have five rings.
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03-23-2010, 01:43 AM
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Gosh, even Spurs fans don't claim they have five rings.
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They actually have 4. My mistake.
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03-23-2010, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
I never bought the whole blame David Stern argument for that debacle. The Mavs were up 2-0. 2-0. GOING HOME. Mavs got outplayed by Wade and the Heat. Wade got bailed out by going to the free throw line. Mavs settled for jumpers. Spurs won 5 championships. They bring no ratings. They don't bring much when it comes to popularity. So why on earth would Stern allow them to win a championship? Five times at that?
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Ok since you dont buy that reason, how bout this: the way Avery handled that game and too little adjustments IMO in the physical way Miami began to play, he's as good to blame as anyone.
The David Stern thing just came out from the unfair treatment of the refs. There's a reason why D-Wade became D-Whistle in not just this board, but a lot of places except the Heat boards.
The Spurs? Well truth to say It always seemed to me that Stern hated Cuban for some particular reason. Its not the team, its Cuban. Stern doesnt have anything against the Spurs.
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03-23-2010, 03:17 AM
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The Mavs weren't up 2-0 going home. They won the first two at home and then played the next three games in Miami.
Damn-when did the Spurs get that fifth ring? I follow them but never heard about this one.
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03-23-2010, 07:05 AM
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03-23-2010, 04:00 PM
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I don't know what's worse. The fact that 3 guys are chasing Wade or the fact that Wade possibly drew a foul by pushing off of Dirk.
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03-30-2010, 12:24 PM
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Legler was just on the Coward show agreeing with Colin that we're pretenders because we're just a bunch of "B+ guys(with one A) who can't finish games while the lakers have a bunch of A+ guys." Basically calling us the old Rasheed Wallace trailblazers during the Kobe-Shaq era. However the only A+ guy i see on the lake show is Kobe, everyone else just creates a tough/unique matchup because of their size/strength.
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03-23-2010, 04:27 PM
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^ That looks like a reach from Dirks left hand, then a flop!
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03-30-2010, 04:03 PM
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Wait, Legler jumped off the bandwagon after the Nuggets game?
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