11-06-2003, 01:52 PM
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RE: Chad Ford trade idea
I love Jalen Rose. He's a badass. He's got the handles, the shot, and the confidence that I'd love to see at the two spot here. He's infinitely more versatile offensive player than Finley, and a more competent defensive one as well. He would flourish under Nelson.
I'm a bit cautious on Curry. He's a little slow of foot. He's not a prolific shotblocker. Mainly he's just a big, strong guy with a good back-to-the basket game. There's a real danger he'd just clog up the middle and ruin our spacing on offense. He's a nice player, but I don't think he fits well with this team.
I'd much rather have Chandler. He's a super-freak athlete in the mold of Kevin Garnett, only I think Chandler may be even MORE athletic than KG. If you had a contest and challenged every NBA player to jump as high as they could and touch a spot on a wall, I think Chandler might be able to touch a full six inches higher than anyone else in the NBA. He's just so damn tall and can jump so damn high. I think he'll eventually lead the league in both blocks and rebounds. He's got such a fluid game. Someday, he'll be able to handle the rock on the perimeter and drive and dish like a swingman. Talk about a weapon in this offense. Already he appears to be able to run the court like a swingman. It makes me drool to think about what he'd do here. He'll never be the centerpoint of an offense, but he'll be a very nice complementary player. On defense, he could be something very, very special.
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11-06-2003, 02:02 PM
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Old School Balla
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RE:Chad Ford trade idea
I can't believe I'm biting on discussing yet ANOTHER "Finley-to-Chicago" rumor....
First, here's the theoretical "new" lineup if such a trade were to occur:
Curry - Bradley
Nowitzki - Najera - Fortson
Walker - Howard - Robinson
Rose - Delk
Crawford - Best
That really doesn't do much for me. In fact, I hate the idea of giving up Nash in this package. Ape's assessment of Curry is right on. I'd rather have Chandler, too, but he definitely would cost you Nash. For Chandler, I might be more interested in that discussion.
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11-06-2003, 02:41 PM
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RE:Chad Ford trade idea
It's just plain stupid to think of trading Steve Nash without getting Gary Payton or Jason Kidd in return.
Jamal Crawford? Ford is an idiot, sure Crawford is poised for a breakout season, but Jamal is a young checkers player,
yet Steve is a veteran chess player.
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11-06-2003, 03:06 PM
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RE:Chad Ford trade idea
This trade idea by Chad Ford doesn't help the Mavs much. trade 2 of the BIG 3 AND Antawn Jamison for 3 unproven players and a person who wants a 100 field goal opportunities a night??? I don't see Mark Cuban even considering this trade idea
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11-06-2003, 03:19 PM
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RE:Chad Ford trade idea
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Originally posted by: Tony tha Mavs fan
This trade idea by Chad Ford doesn't help the Mavs much. trade 2 of the BIG 3 AND Antawn Jamison for 3 unproven players and a person who wants a 100 field goal opportunities a night??? I don't see Mark Cuban even considering this trade idea
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I wouldn't consider it a good trade either. Why take such a large step back? Granted we MAY be better in a couple of years but still...
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11-06-2003, 03:23 PM
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RE:Chad Ford trade idea
Crawford is a younger nash. Rose is just as a prolific scorer as nash. I like Curry and still think he can be a beast, but like a lot of other players we have he isn't a dominant defensive player. Id just like to see things through 30 games or so before I pull another deal. Chemistry takes time to build.
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11-06-2003, 03:35 PM
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RE:Chad Ford trade idea
im tired of hearing everyone say how BAD we need a big man. You know what we NEED. We NEED a ball hawk. Someone that will shut down the best perimeter player the other team has. Every game this season the other teams best 2 or 3 has dropped 20+ on us. Stevenson isnt that good a player and he killed us. Wallace wasnt in the league last year and he killed us. And i dont even wanna talk about how washingtons back court just bent us over. That what we need. Bruce Bown, Doug Christie, someone like that
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11-06-2003, 03:37 PM
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RE:Chad Ford trade idea
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im tired of hearing everyone say how BAD we need a big man. You know what we NEED. We NEED a ball hawk. Someone that will shut down the best perimeter player the other team has. Every game this season the other teams best 2 or 3 has dropped 20+ on us. Stevenson isnt that good a player and he killed us. Wallace wasnt in the league last year and he killed us. And i dont even wanna talk about how washingtons back court just bent us over. That what we need. Bruce Bown, Doug Christie, someone like that
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Perhaps Josh Howard will be this 'ball hawk' that you're talking about.
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11-06-2003, 04:36 PM
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RE:Chad Ford trade idea
The only people who like this trade are the people who hate that Dirk doesn't shoot 20 shots a game. I mean this trade is horrible. All Curry has is potential. He can't play defense nor can he be a presence on hte defensive end. All he has is offense. We have offense. We don't need anymore. Thats our main problem now. We have too much offense and don't know how to utilize it right. You don't get any defensive players just guys who basically do what Fin, Jamison, and Nash do right now. No, I take that back. Those guys can't even do what Jamison, Fin, and Nash are capable of doing. I just don't get why you want to subtract the Mavs lineup with the Bulls. The bulls suck.
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11-06-2003, 04:40 PM
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RE:Chad Ford trade idea
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Originally posted by: FilthyFinMavs
The only people who like this trade are the people who hate that Dirk doesn't shoot 20 shots a game. I mean this trade is horrible. All Curry has is potential. He can't play defense nor can he be a presence on hte defensive end. All he has is offense. We have offense. We don't need anymore. Thats our main problem now. We have too much offense and don't know how to utilize it right. You don't get any defensive players just guys who basically do what Fin, Jamison, and Nash do right now. No, I take that back. Those guys can't even do what Jamison, Fin, and Nash are capable of doing. I just don't get why you want to subtract the Mavs lineup with the Bulls. The bulls suck.
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I really don't see much of anyone that likes this trade...maybe a couple of people.
Yet, I'd be willing to bet that most of the people that have spoken in this thread believe that Dirk should get around 20 attempts per game...(maybe closer to 18-19)
It's not about liking dirk and trading people away so that he can get his numbers. It's about doing what's best so the Mavs can ultimately compete for and win a title. This trade simply doesn't do the trick IMO. Now, that doesn't mean that a few tweaks couldn't be made to make it more of an even trade.
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11-06-2003, 04:45 PM
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Old School Balla
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RE:Chad Ford trade idea
If you could trick the Bulls into Finley and Jamison for Rose and Chandler, I'd be all for that.
Chandler - Bradley
Nowitzki - Najera
Walker - Howard
Rose - Daniels
Nash - Delk
That seems to be a much improved defensive team without losing any offensive steam.
*Prepares to be flamed*
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