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ribosoma · 09-08-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

I think Sammy is all they tried for. Damps' contract had the most value before the Sammy's all signed - when others might have thought that Damp's contract would net them what they needed. Of course it's all speculation as to what they could have done, but every time a rumor came through about what the mavs turned down, didn't you think, "Oh crap, they are waiting for Lebron?"

Hoping for Roddy to turn into what they need next year (or Jones in 2 or 3 years) is another gamble, and if that's what they wanted to do, then they should have traded Damp's contract for good role players.

Not so much. There were rumors two years ago that he would team up with Wade and Bosh, so I figured that he was either going to stay in Cleveland as the superstar and secure his legacy by carrying a team as El Jefe or he was going to admit that he isn't who we thought he was and go join an All-Star team directed by Spike Jonze in "Souff' Beach." He chose the bitch route. 2 years ago. Time to turn the page now.

Usually Lurkin · 09-08-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Other than an ill-fitting/overpaid Al Jefferson, who exactly did the Mavs turn down?

I don't recall us saying "no" to anyone else...

Look through here: http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=36333

There is at least a mention of Deng.

Usually Lurkin · 09-08-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ribosoma

No, I saw him in NBA games in the playoffs.

Did you see Stephen Curry versus Angola?
And Russell Westbrook?
And that loser Granger?

Those guys were active, but had off nights. Unlike Chandler, they weren't severely outplayed by their opponent, and left standing dumbfounded every other play.

Chandler's getting consistently outplayed by Odom and Love

Underdog · 09-08-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

Look through here: http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=36333

There is at least a mention of Deng.

I like how you're trying to shoehorn your "official threads" diatribe into the Tyson Chandler discussion...

And, seriously - Luol Deng??? How exactly is ANOTHER forward supposed to put this team over the top? Was he going to back-up Haywood, or were we going to use Dirk for that?

You sound like a lot of hot air escaping from a vagina these days - I think I'll start calling you 'Usually Queefin'...

DevinHarriswillstart · 09-08-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

Hoping for Roddy to turn into what they need next year (or Jones in 2 or 3 years) is another gamble, and if that's what they wanted to do, then they should have traded Damp's contract for good role players.

You mean like a need? Like a back-up center type need? Like Ty...eh forget it....

What role players interest you? What position would you like these role players to play? I love when someone just wants players no matter what, regardless of where or how they will fit. Mavs have plenty of "role" players imo.

ribosoma · 09-08-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

Those guys were active, but had off nights. Unlike Chandler, they weren't severely outplayed by their opponent, and left standing dumbfounded every other play.

Chandler's getting consistently outplayed by Odom and Love

You know, they made a video that addresses your most cogent points.

spreedom · 09-08-2010, 10:59 AM

Yeah, I definitely don't want Deng...

Usually Lurkin · 09-08-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I like how you're trying to shoehorn your "official threads" diatribe into the Tyson Chandler discussion...

it wasn't my diatribe, and if discussions had been properly threaded, then you'd have had more to post above with the rest of the links.

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And, seriously - Luol Deng??? How exactly is ANOTHER forward supposed to put this team over the top? Was he going to back-up Haywood, or were we going to use Dirk for that?

again, if you want to rehash all that, do it with someone else.

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You sound like a lot of hot air escaping from a vagina these days - I think I'll start calling you 'Usually Queefin'...

yeah, well you are a big doo-doo head.

Usually Lurkin · 09-08-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

You mean like a need? Like a back-up center type need? Like Ty...eh forget it.....

Tyson Chandler has consistently been a very poor role player against poor competition for the US team. I think that says something about how good a role player he will be for the Mavs.

Kidd Karma · 09-08-2010, 12:08 PM

6 hacks at throwing jitterbugs to the floor, that's what I'll take. Haywood's our bread and butter guy at the post right now. Haywoods needs to go 12-9 a night in 33 minutes.

fluid.forty.one · 09-08-2010, 01:47 PM

UL your schtick is getting pretty awful.

SMC0007 · 09-08-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

UL your schtick is getting pretty awful.

Come on man. It's probably fair to say we should all reinvent ourselves from time to time but you are no exception. Just don't feel like you have to carry the burden of calling peoples "schtik" out for the entire board.

fluid.forty.one · 09-08-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Come on man. It's probably fair to say we should all reinvent ourselves from time to time but you are no exception. Just don't feel like you have to carry the burden of calling peoples "schtik" out for the entire board.

If going crazy on JJB hate was considered a shtick, then hating on a BACKUP CENTER before the season starts because of bad performances in like 50 point blowouts is a shtiicckkk. "Oh my gosh did you see him against Angola" is not somehow proof that we have the worst backup center in the league, sorry.

Usually Lurkin · 09-08-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

UL your schtick is getting pretty awful.

We've almost had a discussion about a Maverick player and his performance at these international games. And we've even sometimes almost made it about basketball. They play Russia tomorrow, against whom Chandler is supposed to be useful.

What do you want to talk about?

Kidd Karma · 09-08-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

We've almost had a discussion about a Maverick player and his performance at these international games. And we've even sometimes almost made it about basketball. They play Russia tomorrow, against whom Chandler is supposed to be useful.

What do you want to talk about?

Yea, there's a 7 footer whom the Knicks were able to sign to a 3 year deal.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/9/8/16...ts-miss-out-on

tcat075 · 09-08-2010, 04:51 PM

Alright, getting back to Chandler. Let's name the most unlikely player to successfully throw Tyson Chandler an alley oop pass (be it dunk or lay in). I mean, its pretty much a given that Kidd will have his share, that Roddy's penetration will lead to a handful (or maybe he'll surpass Kidd's total, because he is much more like CP3 than Jason right now), and that Terry will attempt to throw them, and will luck into a least a couple. But who else on the Mavericks might do it?

And if you've already ruled Dirk out, let me tell you that there was a play last year that I remember involving Dirk and alley oop. He was in the high post, with Haywood in the low post, being fronted. I think it was just supposed to be a lob pass for Haywood to catch, land, and then put it up, but he caught it and layed it in. That counts, folks. Unlikely, but I swear it happened (anyone else remember it? probably not).

My prediction is Tim Thomas, by the way. He goes up for an open three, but spots Chandler wide open on the weak side, and fires a bullet over to him. Its high, so Chandler catches and just kind of drops it in.

SMC0007 · 09-08-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tcat075

Alright, getting back to Chandler. Let's name the most unlikely player to successfully throw Tyson Chandler an alley oop pass (be it dunk or lay in). I mean, its pretty much a given that Kidd will have his share, that Roddy's penetration will lead to a handful (or maybe he'll surpass Kidd's total, because he is much more like CP3 than Jason right now), and that Terry will attempt to throw them, and will luck into a least a couple. But who else on the Mavericks might do it?

And if you've already ruled Dirk out, let me tell you that there was a play last year that I remember involving Dirk and alley oop. He was in the high post, with Haywood in the low post, being fronted. I think it was just supposed to be a lob pass for Haywood to catch, land, and then put it up, but he caught it and layed it in. That counts, folks. Unlikely, but I swear it happened (anyone else remember it? probably not).

My prediction is Tim Thomas, by the way. He goes up for an open three, but spots Chandler wide open on the weak side, and fires a bullet over to him. Its high, so Chandler catches and just kind of drops it in.

Ian Mahinmi

chumdawg · 09-08-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Ian Mahinmi

Ian Mahinmi, what you think???

SMC0007 · 09-08-2010, 07:08 PM

Not to bad yourself?

Usually Lurkin · 09-09-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Yea, there's a 7 footer whom the Knicks were able to sign to a 3 year deal.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/9/8/16...ts-miss-out-on

goodness. Did anyone watch? The Russian 7 footer went 6-9 for 13 points in 24 minutes. Chandler got only 7 minutes. What are the odds that LA plays Odom extended minutes at center against us?

SMC0007 · 09-09-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

goodness. Did anyone watch? The Russian 7 footer went 6-9 for 13 points in 24 minutes. Chandler got only 7 minutes. What are the odds that LA plays Odom extended minutes at center against us?

Yes, I watched. I don't know what your problem is. That center didn't score on Chandler. At least not while it was still a game, hell I stopped watching (early 4th) when we pulled away. They brought Love off the bench first and he sucked, not Chandler.

Who cares if L.A. plays Odom as center vs us? Why would they? Chandler probably has a better chance guarding Odom than Dirk or Thomas. Tho, they probably realize now more than ever that he can be a weapon at center on a lot of nights.

When/if we lose to LA, you won't look back and say, well it was all because Chandler couldn't guard Odom, if thats what you are implying.

sefant77 · 09-09-2010, 05:24 PM

Nice, another day Chandler ran up and down the court to get in better shape for october.

goal fullfilled

Usually Lurkin · 09-09-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Yes, I watched. I don't know what your problem is. That center didn't score on Chandler. At least not while it was still a game, hell I stopped watching (early 4th) when we pulled away. They brought Love off the bench first and he sucked, not Chandler.

Who cares if L.A. plays Odom as center vs us? Why would they? Chandler probably has a better chance guarding Odom than Dirk or Thomas. Tho, they probably realize now more than ever that he can be a weapon at center on a lot of nights.

When/if we lose to LA, you won't look back and say, well it was all because Chandler couldn't guard Odom, if thats what you are implying.

um, no thanks for interpreting my post to be as venomous as possible. I asked if anyone watched because I didn't and I wanted some commentary. I made a comment about Odom playing because I was assuming the Russian scored on Odom (chandler having gotten so few minutes). When you look back on our LA games, don't you wish you could say, "I'm glad they played Odom at center - Haywood and Chandler combined for 30 points"

SMC0007 · 09-09-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

um, no thanks for interpreting my post to be as venomous as possible. I asked if anyone watched because I didn't and I wanted some commentary. I made a comment about Odom playing because I was assuming the Russian scored on Odom (chandler having gotten so few minutes). When you look back on our LA games, don't you wish you could say, "I'm glad they played Odom at center - Haywood and Chandler combined for 30 points"

Wasn't really my intentions.

Your post looked a little to me like you watched the game but didn't see what happened.

I have slightly defended your right to have an opinion on this thread/topic wether I agree with all of it or not.

We just aren't gonna get an accurate read on what he will bring for us here. They (usa teamates) just won't pass him the ball. The defenses clog the lane much more too, theres not near as much room for him to work. The main thing that bothers me so far is his ability to pick up fouls. 12-15 ish games perhaps as a Mav and we will know who the real Tyson Chandler is.

DevinHarriswillstart · 09-09-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

goodness. Did anyone watch? The Russian 7 footer went 6-9 for 13 points in 24 minutes. Chandler got only 7 minutes. What are the odds that LA plays Odom extended minutes at center against us?

Nevermind, answered above...

fluid.forty.one · 09-10-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Nice, another day Chandler ran up and down the court to get in better shape for october.

goal fullfilled

freaking + rep

Usually Lurkin · 09-10-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

We just aren't gonna get an accurate read on what he will bring for us here. They (usa teamates) just won't pass him the ball. The defenses clog the lane much more too, theres not near as much room for him to work. The main thing that bothers me so far is his ability to pick up fouls. 12-15 ish games perhaps as a Mav and we will know who the real Tyson Chandler is.

I know, but it's more fun to me to argue about Tyson Chandler than bitch about each other.

41mvp · 09-11-2010, 01:57 PM

I don't know why coach Krzyzewski doesn't trust Tyson.
He play only 2 min. vs. Lithuania.
It's very sad!!!

CadBane · 09-11-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

I don't know why coach Krzyzewski doesn't trust Tyson.
He play only 2 min. vs. Lithuania.
It's very sad!!!

Maybe because Kevin Love and Lamar Odom are superior players?

Odom is one dumb mofo though. I hate watching him.

41mvp · 09-12-2010, 08:50 AM

I don't think so.Odom and Love are PF players.Tyson is natural C player.I don't know why Krzyzewski take him to Turkey.If Krzuzewski give him only 3-5 min. per game it's funny.I want him in Dallas on 100% healthy.Yes if USA team win National Championship will be great.But I think NBA is most important.

KillerLeft · 09-12-2010, 12:57 PM

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I don't think so.Odom and Love are PF players.Tyson is natural C player.I don't know why Krzyzewski take him to Turkey.If Krzuzewski give him only 3-5 min. per game it's funny.I want him in Dallas on 100% healthy.Yes if USA team win National Championship will be great.But I think NBA is most important.

Odom and Love are PF's in the NBA, but not in the international style of play. Odom can probably play both the 4 and 5, but Love is definitely a 5 in a world situation.

41mvp · 09-12-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerLeft

Odom and Love are PF's in the NBA, but not in the international style of play. Odom can probably play both the 4 and 5, but Love is definitely a 5 in a world situation.

You have right.But I think Odom is better than Tyson but Love not.Tyson want more minutes.And he deserves on this.

LonghornDub · 09-12-2010, 01:46 PM

Turkoglu and Chandler getting into it in the gold medal game.

Male30Dan · 09-12-2010, 01:53 PM

Close game currently (20-17).

41mvp · 09-12-2010, 02:41 PM

o yeah Tyson vs. Turkogly this is hard game.But Tyson has two fouls.

fluid.forty.one · 09-12-2010, 03:11 PM

Durant is a beast.

Usually Lurkin · 09-12-2010, 03:18 PM

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Durant is a beast.

no doubt. How can he not be anyone's 2nd favorite player?

sefant77 · 09-12-2010, 05:44 PM

2008-09 OKC 74 39:00 8.9 18.8 47.6 1.3 3.1 42.2 6.1 7.1 86.3 1.0 5.5 6.5 2.8 3.0 1.3 0.7 1.8 25.3
2009-10 OKC 82 39:30 9.7 20.3 47.6 1.6 4.3 36.5 9.2 10.2 90.0 1.3 6.3 7.6 2.8 3.3 1.4 1.0 2.1 30.2

I smell superstar calls

LonghornDub · 09-12-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Durant is a beast.

A small handful of folks 'round these parts may have assured me that he was overrated.

fluid.forty.one · 09-12-2010, 09:11 PM

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A small handful of folks 'round these parts may have assured me that he was overrated.

Yikes.. if I was one of them then I was awfully wrong.

I can't imagine what they are going to do in the Olympics.. they can't bench him, can they?