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Underdog · 05-15-2018, 10:30 PM

MPJ confirmed... Last sentence:

@bobbykaralla: Michael Finley statement on the lottery.

tap2390 · 05-15-2018, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

MPJ confirmed... Last sentence:

@bobbykaralla: Michael Finley statement on the lottery.

I actually am beginning to hope we take him (if the Grizz don't).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4s6lrMCo-M

Bryan_Wilson · 05-15-2018, 10:46 PM

If his back clears with no issues from medical staff then he's really hard to pass up at 5.

sefant77 · 05-15-2018, 10:53 PM

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If his back clears with no issues from medical staff then he's really hard to pass up at 5.

in that case he is gone at #4

Bryan_Wilson · 05-15-2018, 11:03 PM

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in that case he is gone at #4

Or maybe they are too gun shy after their last *cough* SF with injuries they acquired turned out so well, it's wishful thinking I'll admit. If his back checks out he legitimately could go as high as 2 so I won't be surprised. I hope it checks out just because it gives us more options whether he goes before us or not.

j0Shi · 05-16-2018, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

MPJ confirmed... Last sentence:

@bobbykaralla: Michael Finley statement on the lottery.

Actually I'm getting more of a Mikal Bridges vibe. All the big men are somewhat projects that might not be able to help instantly. Bridges can. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Mavs took him and then went after a big in FA. I'm not saying it's the best scenario long-term, but if you really want the best shot at the playoffs in 18/19?

Underdog · 05-16-2018, 04:57 AM

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Actually I'm getting more of a Mikal Bridges vibe. All the big men are somewhat projects that might not be able to help instantly. Bridges can. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Mavs took him and then went after a big in FA. I'm not saying it's the best scenario long-term, but if you really want the best shot at the playoffs in 18/19?

I don’t think adding Bridges gets us out of the lottery — we’re still a #1 scorer away from even talking about a playoff spot, and none of the realistic FAs on the market fit the bill. That’s why I see MPJ as the only guy beyond Ayton/Doncic/Bagley who could get this team turned around in just one season.

hayth.james.g · 05-16-2018, 06:17 AM

I keep seeing people saying comments to the effect of “tanking didn’t pay off for the Mavs”. I find this to be a ludicrous statement.

We have the 5th pick! Most likely options will be JJJ, Bagley, Bamba, Bridges, or MPJ. All have viable superstar potential.

I get it. We held out hope for the number 1 spot. But I have been saying this for some time. There is a strong argument to be made for 6-7 players in this draft. It’s a great draft. And just like last season where I had DSJ as my number 2 coveted player (monk was #1 for me), I think it’s very possible that a similar situation occurs this year. The guys taken 3-6 are completely up in the air with no right answer. Team fit, development, and culture will be the biggest difference makers imo.

FreshJive · 05-16-2018, 07:08 AM

Bamba gives up 50 pounds and 7 inches to Shawn Bradley. He appears to move at about the same speed. I’m not seeing it.

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-16-2018, 08:24 AM

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Bamba gives up 50 pounds and 7 inches to Shawn Bradley. He appears to move at about the same speed. I’m not seeing it.

Your first flaw was mentioning Shawn Bradley...

FreshJive · 05-16-2018, 11:24 PM

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Your first flaw was mentioning Shawn Bradley...

Right. Bradley was able to manage 3-4 blocks a game when centers were monsters. Bamba looks to me like he will be bullied by the Embiids, Gasols, Nurkics, Jokics, Vucevics, Goberts, etc. of the league the way that Noel has. He doesn’t even look to have the hands or lateral quickness of Nerlens.

saclare · 05-16-2018, 10:56 AM

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Bamba gives up 50 pounds and 7 inches to Shawn Bradley. He appears to move at about the same speed. I’m not seeing it.

Guess we are watching completely different game tape...

Scoobay · 05-16-2018, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

I keep seeing people saying comments to the effect of “tanking didn’t pay off for the Mavs”. I find this to be a ludicrous statement.

We have the 5th pick! Most likely options will be JJJ, Bagley, Bamba, Bridges, or MPJ. All have viable superstar potential.

I get it. We held out hope for the number 1 spot. But I have been saying this for some time. There is a strong argument to be made for 6-7 players in this draft. It’s a great draft. And just like last season where I had DSJ as my number 2 coveted player (monk was #1 for me), I think it’s very possible that a similar situation occurs this year. The guys taken 3-6 are completely up in the air with no right answer. Team fit, development, and culture will be the biggest difference makers imo.

This I agree with... by tanking we have ourselves a better floor for a pick. After all the grading of teeth around here many of us were worried about ending up with pick 7-9 . Could have been better but five is still high enough to get someone with a high ceiling

sefant77 · 05-16-2018, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

I keep seeing people saying comments to the effect of “tanking didn’t pay off for the Mavs”. I find this to be a ludicrous statement.

We have the 5th pick! Most likely options will be JJJ, Bagley, Bamba, Bridges, or MPJ. All have viable superstar potential.

I get it. We held out hope for the number 1 spot. But I have been saying this for some time. There is a strong argument to be made for 6-7 players in this draft. It’s a great draft. And just like last season where I had DSJ as my number 2 coveted player (monk was #1 for me), I think it’s very possible that a similar situation occurs this year. The guys taken 3-6 are completely up in the air with no right answer. Team fit, development, and culture will be the biggest difference makers imo.

we all got too greedy after the last two weeks of the regular season when we moved from 5-6 to 3-4 and also won the coinflip against the Hawks.

Back in march everyone was more than fine with picking at 5

MavzMan · 05-16-2018, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

MPJ confirmed... Last sentence:

@bobbykaralla: Michael Finley statement on the lottery.

Michael Finley ..... .... ... .. .

tap2390 · 05-16-2018, 09:10 AM

If he choice is between Bamba and MPJ, roll the dice on MPJ IMO. You don’t win in this league without having at least two guys who can consistently score 1-on-1. Porter has that natural scoring ability probably moreso than anyone in this draft. Even if you have to redshirt him, take him.

Scoobay · 05-16-2018, 10:11 AM

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If he choice is between Bamba and MPJ, roll the dice on MPJ IMO. You don’t win in this league without having at least two guys who can consistently score 1-on-1. Porter has that natural scoring ability probably moreso than anyone in this draft. Even if you have to redshirt him, take him.

There's something to be said for this... you need a go to guy who can create a shot for themselves or for others towards the end of games or as the shot clock/game clock is running low. DSJ can do that of course but having more than one guy who can create helps a lot. Barnes can get off a shot but he looks to be more of a dribble-dribble, pull up guy like Finley used to be.

You bring up another point worth discussing... I don't know the nature of the recovery for what he has, but what if MPJ's back is not good enough for a full recovery this coming year, BUT by year 2 he's all good and back to where he was on track for previously? Philly waiting on Ben Simmons for a year looks like it's worked out pretty well. I'm conflicted about potentially sucking again for a year vs. missing out on a potentially elite level offensive player.