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Old 12-10-2011, 12:04 PM   #1
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Mavs' first swipe, I'm told, will be trying to do S-and-T w/Sacramento for Dalembert by using big trade exception from Tyson Chandler deal

I hope just after Dwight&Hedo failed...
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Mavs' first swipe, I'm told, will be trying to do S-and-T w/Sacramento for Dalembert by using big trade exception from Tyson Chandler deal

I hope just after Dwight&Hedo failed...
Ewwww dalembert is trash
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Mavs' first swipe, I'm told, will be trying to do S-and-T w/Sacramento for Dalembert by using big trade exception from Tyson Chandler deal

I hope just after Dwight&Hedo failed...
Ok...now this...this I don't understand.
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Agreed. In part because I've seen reports that the Kings renounced Dalembert, and in part because, even though Dalembert was the first place my mind went when news started to break about Tyson, I'd pretty much accepted that they weren't going to go that direction.

Of course, it really depends on what the contract terms ended up being. Maybe the market only really had an appetite for TC, Nene and Gasol with a little bit of Jordan mixed in, and the going prices for guys like Daly turn out to be more reasonable?
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Agreed. In part because I've seen reports that the Kings renounced Dalembert, and in part because, even though Dalembert was the first place my mind went when news started to break about Tyson, I'd pretty much accepted that they weren't going to go that direction.

Of course, it really depends on what the contract terms ended up being. Maybe the market only really had an appetite for TC, Nene and Gasol with a little bit of Jordan mixed in, and the going prices for guys like Daly turn out to be more reasonable?
They're way under the cap so them renouncing him doesn't really make much difference.
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They're way under the cap so them renouncing him doesn't really make much difference.
I'd been assuming they needed to renounce to clear space for some other things they'd done/were doing, else why renounce, but then again, I haven't been following their moves too closely, and they definitely had a lot of cap space. I've pretty much been keeping an eye on Daly and that's it. At any rate, the later reports about the one-year try clear things up. If you don't think the TPE is going to help you land Howard, and you don't mind paying the LT, a mercenary Dalembert is a good get for this team as far as I'm concerned.
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I'd been assuming they needed to renounce to clear space for some other things they'd done/were doing, else why renounce, but then again, I haven't been following their moves too closely, and they definitely had a lot of cap space. I've pretty much been keeping an eye on Daly and that's it. At any rate, the later reports about the one-year try clear things up. If you don't think the TPE is going to help you land Howard, and you don't mind paying the LT, a mercenary Dalembert is a good get for this team as far as I'm concerned.
Keep in mind his cap hold was 150% of his salary. So he was taking up 18Mil of space. They had to renounce him to do almost anything. I'm pretty sure they still have enough space for a big SnT, especially if they get someone back like JJ.
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Keep in mind his cap hold was 150% of his salary. So he was taking up 18Mil of space. They had to renounce him to do almost anything. I'm pretty sure they still have enough space for a big SnT, especially if they get someone back like JJ.
Didn't know the cap hold was 150% of salary. New thing? Or just long-uncorrected ignorance on my part?
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