Devin Taking Charge in Playoffs? - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

DavidDaMonkey · 04-08-2007, 09:17 PM

Ok, so the title is a little misleading, but I was wondering about something. Devin is obviously a huge fan of taking charges, and often from big guys. The debate over whether he has some flopping mixed in is another thread entirely, but here's my question: he always seems to go down pretty hard on these charges and it seems to me there is a high risk of injury. When does the risk of injury outweigh the help of racking up fouls against the opponent? Should Devin back off of these charges during the playoffs in order to help ensure that he is always healthy to play? Or are you in the "play hard or go home" category? Any thoughts?

robo98564 · 04-08-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidDaMonkey

Ok, so the title is a little misleading, but I was wondering about something. Devin is obviously a huge fan of taking charges, and often from big guys. The debate over whether he has some flopping mixed in is another thread entirely, but here's my question: he always seems to go down pretty hard on these charges and it seems to me there is a high risk of injury. When does the risk of injury outweigh the help of racking up fouls against the opponent? Should Devin back off of these charges during the playoffs in order to help ensure that he is always healthy to play? Or are you in the "play hard or go home" category? Any thoughts?

I think thats just the way he plays... Yes there is risk of injury, but its one of the reasons he is one of the best defensive points in the league. I dont want him holding back anything. He gives 100% and as a Mavs fan, I heterosexually love him for that

Dtownsfinest · 04-08-2007, 09:30 PM

If I had my way i'd take Devin taking charge in the 3rd and 4th quarter rather than the 1st half. That flopping he does can end up coming back to bite you in the ass. I will say though taking a charge is a huge momentum shifter. So I don't want Devin to completely get it out of his system but there can definately be consequences to taking those charges he does. But I think its just in Devin's system so I don't think you can sit here and have certain times he takes charges. Its just what he has to do. He's one of the few Mavs that will risk his body in that way so I definately give him props for that.

StackAttack · 04-08-2007, 09:34 PM

Take the charge. You don't become a star in this league thinking about the "what-ifs." You do it by acting. Dirk doesn't think about coming down on someone's ankle everytime he takes a jumpshot. Mbenga wasn't thinking about possibly being raped after blocking Kobe. Unless you're in foul trouble and could possibly be called for a blocking foul, if you think you've got position, take the charge.

endrity · 04-08-2007, 09:52 PM

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Mbenga wasn't thinking about possibly being raped after blocking Kobe.

lol

chumdawg · 04-08-2007, 10:15 PM

True, that was funny.

As for the question at hand...what injury are you really risking? You aren't risking a sprained ankle or a blown-out knee or anything like that. You are basically just taking a hit to the chest. No big deal, really. Painful, maybe, but I don't think a big threat of injury. Even a concussion, if it came to that, would wear away quickly.

StackAttack · 04-08-2007, 10:17 PM

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True, that was funny.

As for the question at hand...what injury are you really risking? You aren't risking a sprained ankle or a blown-out knee or anything like that. You are basically just taking a hit to the chest. No big deal, really. Painful, maybe, but I don't think a big threat of injury. Even a concussion, if it came to that, would wear away quickly.

I almost mentioned the concussion thing and how it wouldn't last, but...you are asking a guy to have a concussion just to get the ball for a possession.

nashtymavsfan13 · 04-08-2007, 10:54 PM

I say take the charge as well. Devin's the best in the league at drawing legit charges, along with some flops as well. It's who he is and how he plays the game.

chumdawg · 04-08-2007, 11:31 PM

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I almost mentioned the concussion thing and how it wouldn't last, but...you are asking a guy to have a concussion just to get the ball for a possession.

Nah, not for one possession. Chances are he will take the charge many times before he gets a concussion. So, it's like a concussion for all those times.

come_on_now · 04-09-2007, 04:02 AM

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True, that was funny.

As for the question at hand...what injury are you really risking? You aren't risking a sprained ankle or a blown-out knee or anything like that. You are basically just taking a hit to the chest. No big deal, really. Painful, maybe, but I don't think a big threat of injury. Even a concussion, if it came to that, would wear away quickly.

I agree totally. I couldn't even tell you the last time someone got injured to the point of having to miss games by taking a charge. You're ready for a charge. You aren't ready for a foot under your ankle or getting up-ended while you're in the air.

Charges are nothin'. Right. He's light so he doens't hit the floor very hard.

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-09-2007, 04:20 AM

Reggie Miller took oodles of charges and lasted a very long time. Too early to tell for this discussion.

Underdog · 04-09-2007, 07:45 AM

I think he has to worry about jamming his tailbone or screwing up his back more than anything...

left texas · 04-09-2007, 10:11 AM

Devin takes a lot of nastier falls attacking the basket. Do you think he should quit doing that? Of course not. Hey, Avery touts him as the best defensive point guard in the league. He frustrates other players and other coaches, so just let him keep playing the way he has been, all out. One of the easiest ways to get ian injury in any sport is just trying not to get injured.

DavidDaMonkey · 04-09-2007, 11:07 AM

I'm not at all saying he should change anything, just bringing up a discussion.

Five-ofan · 04-09-2007, 01:46 PM

an injury to him from taking a charge is much less likely than an injury to someone else from him flopping(which he does, there is absolutely no debate about this) and falling into them.

sike · 04-09-2007, 01:54 PM

interesting question...I say let Devin be true to his game...and come what may......as long as "come what may" aint Bruce Bowen on a Mavs Ankle!

Janett_Reno · 04-09-2007, 02:04 PM

Tony Parker is great and maybe the fastest guy in the nba untill Harris last year. In the playoffs, Harris was amaing making Parker charge. Harris will be a big factor on how far we go. Taking charges is a big part of his game and i welcome that.