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kg_veteran · 02-20-2007, 12:03 AM

Chumdawg - So far, all I can find is a quote about the quote. Dirk isn't quoted in the postgame quotes posted on the team website, and none of the DMN articles that covered the game had the aforementioned quote (or anything similar) in them.

rakesh.s · 02-20-2007, 12:44 AM

people misinterpret what dirk said and now we have a feud?

the nba is REALLY desperate for a rivalry

MFFL · 02-20-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDiggler

Then boot me from the site

Please give the child what he wants.

Dirkadirkastan · 02-20-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

Please give the child what he wants.

What the...

Bandwagon Dipshit (thanks to mary for the name) still lurks in this forum?!

dude1394 · 02-20-2007, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

What did Dirk actually say, when they played Miami a few weeks ago? Can you link to that? I'm too lazy to look it up, but I do enjoy following the drama.

KG is pretty spot on about the gist of both quotes.

LRB · 02-20-2007, 03:23 AM

The difference from what the TheDiggler posts and a big steaming pile of crap is that crap can be useful in some situations. He's nothing but a troll. He makes no attempt to add to this site. He attempts to disrupt threads with his nonsense. He refuses to respond in a logical manner. His only perpose it to stir up controversey and draw attention to his diva like self. Which can only mean he's Dwayne Wade's little brother wearing their momma's underwear and a tutu while posting his trollish comments.

LRB · 02-20-2007, 03:28 AM

Now we return to our regularly scheduled topic.

DWhistle obviously has a huge inferiority complex, or in layman's terms, small penis syndrome. The NBA and the refs have made him a star, and he can't stand that anyone with half a brain and an ounce of integrity points it out. Without the refs backings, Wade would be little more than your run of the mill volume shooting athletic scorer who's too much of a momma's boy to do much when the big game is on the line. Now he knows all he has to do is chunk the ball up even if no one is within three feet of him and at worst he'll end up going to the line. What a total freaking wuss.

chumdawg · 02-20-2007, 03:34 AM

Gimme a break. Wade may be a lot of things, but he's no one's puss. He took the ball when the game was on the line in Game Five, and he took the damn ball to the damn rack.

He is NO ONE's puss.

rmacomic · 02-20-2007, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Gimme a break. Wade may be a lot of things, but he's no one's puss. He took the ball when the game was on the line in Game Five, and he took the damn ball to the damn rack.

He is NO ONE's puss.

You know Chum, sometimes you post, insightful, poignant, almost brilliant things that make me think Doc must be a lunatic to mess with you. Posts that are relevant and show the truly intelligent person you are.... Yet...
sometimes you post things that make me want to punch you in the twat.

Guess which one this is?

Dirkadirkastan · 02-20-2007, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Gimme a break. Wade may be a lot of things, but he's no one's puss. He took the ball when the game was on the line in Game Five, and he took the damn ball to the damn rack.

...pushing Adrian Griffin over in the process.

But hey, it worked out for him in Game 6, when he finally got the whistle by pushing Harris over in the exact same way.

purplefrog · 02-20-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

It seems like a lot of folks are confused about the chronology of what Dirk said, and when. Let me see if I can help:

Dirk's quote about Wade after Game 6 of the Finals (6-20-06): "I thought once they got back home, they were great, obviously Dwyane was great. After Game 2, whatever, he was unstoppable. He really, you know, really won them the Championship. You know, from Game 3 when we were up 10, he just took over since then. He never let up. He was great." link

Dirk's quote about Wade when the teams played in January: "All I said two weeks ago when we played them was, we feel like we gave them the championship. We had a 2-0 lead, we were up 10 with a couple of minutes left in Game 3. If we win that Game 3, we have a chance to close the series out. That’s really all I said, and I don’t know why he got all sensitive about it." link

Dirk never said anything negative about Wade; Wade took his cheap shot gratuitously. Of course, when Wade's comments about Dirk were published in the Miami paper and Cuban popped off, Wade suddenly comes out with his whole "I don't want to go back and forth with Dirk" crap.

Wade is fake deep. Next thing you know, he'll film a commercial showing him doing charity work with inner city kids. Oh wait...

Thanks kg. This really helps.

kg_veteran · 02-20-2007, 09:28 AM

Wade is NOT a soft player/wuss/pussy. He is the beneficiary of a lot of calls, but he takes the ball to the basket. Many times he will act like he's been struck by a cannon ball when he takes a shot, but that makes him a flopper, not soft. He definitely absorbs plenty of real contact.

LRB · 02-20-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Gimme a break. Wade may be a lot of things, but he's no one's puss. He took the ball when the game was on the line in Game Five, and he took the damn ball to the damn rack.

He is NO ONE's puss.

Doesn't take even a microscopic set of testicles to drive to the basket with the game on the line when you know the refs have you back.

And only a totally wuss takes it out on another player when they're getting called out nationally for being a ref's baby girl. Wade can't fight his own battles on or off the court. He has no guts. A 5 year old girl would bitch slap him and send him running crying to momma ref. I have no respect for a steaming pile of crap like that.

Usually Lurkin · 02-20-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

Wade is NOT a soft player/wuss/pussy. He is the beneficiary of a lot of calls, but he takes the ball to the basket. Many times he will act like he's been struck by a cannon ball when he takes a shot, but that makes him a flopper, not soft. He definitely absorbs plenty of real contact.

Wade is a Wuss for not owning up to this. His response to accusations have been, "Well, they shouldn't foul me if they don't like it." and then to snap out at Dirk (much like flopping on the floor), and then claim to take the high road in the oh-so-bitter war of words (much like saying he'll get up 8 times after getting "knocked" down 7). He does the dirty play and accuses someone else, then claims to be the better man for not responding with the wussy response he just responded with.

kg_veteran · 02-20-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

Wade is a Wuss for not owning up to this. His response to accusations have been, "Well, they shouldn't foul me if they don't like it." and then to snap out at Dirk (much like flopping on the floor), and then claim to take the high road in the oh-so-bitter war of words (much like saying he'll get up 8 times after getting "knocked" down 7). He does the dirty play and accuses someone else, then claims to be the better man for not responding with the wussy response he just responded with.

Well, I can't really argue with that. Re: favorable calls, it would be one thing if Wade simply said "no comment" or wouldn't discuss it. That would be understandable. But to deny the obvious and to criticize the critics (e.g., saying that players who criticize him are just jump shooters who don't go to the basket) is pathetic.

As for his "war of words" with Dirk, you know how I feel about that. He threw a sucker punch and then tried to act like someone else started the fight.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-20-2007, 12:35 PM

The NBA needs a feud because eveyone is best pals now. Like, whats the point of having Lebron call up Wade to pump him up in the playoffs? Screw that. I want Lebron and Wade to hate each other.....too bad I'm not willing to ruin the integriry of the game and the league to get that. Unfortunately, the league disagrees with my opinion it seems. Promoting Dirk and Wade fighting is stupid and Dirk won't have anything to do with it. You have to use someone who actually does that kinda stuff like Artest....oooo wait.....look what happened there.

Usually Lurkin · 02-20-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

As for his "war of words" with Dirk, you know how I feel about that. He threw a sucker punch and then tried to act like someone else started the fight.

exactly. And that's his style of play. You can bet that if he falls down 8 times, 6 of those were throwing himself on the floor looking for someone else to catch the blame. It would be one thing if he makes an honest effort, ala Iverson, and takes a lot of punishment. But Wade literally throws himself on the floor, like a child holding his breath till he gets what he wants.

As is often the case, I agree with LRB. I've got no respect for that stinking pile of crap.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-20-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Gimme a break. Wade may be a lot of things, but he's no one's puss. He took the ball when the game was on the line in Game Five, and he took the damn ball to the damn rack.

He is NO ONE's puss.

I watch NBA TV every day. And every day they show the hi-lites of Wade driving to the rim. And ever time every single Maverick player reacts in the same way wondering what the hell the ref is calling. They instantaneously n sync throw there arms up like "what'd I do? Who is it this time ref? Every biased and most unbiased fans NOT in Miami wondered the same thing too.

endtroducing MASKED · 02-20-2007, 01:41 PM

I love that saying "HE" as in DIRK is not a personal comment. he's talking directly about him.

haywoodjay · 02-20-2007, 01:53 PM

some of you guys are completely delusional. i'm honestly having a hard time believing some of the nonsense you guys spew on a daily basis.

capitalcity · 02-20-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by haywoodjay

some of you guys are completely delusional. i'm honestly having a hard time believing some of the nonsense you guys spew on a daily basis.

I post on an hourly basis ass-cracker.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-20-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by haywoodjay

some of you guys are completely delusional. i'm honestly having a hard time believing some of the nonsense you guys spew on a daily basis.

How is having an opinion delusional all of a sudden? I'm definitely not smokin what the refs were in that series when they made those calls.

WurzburgBorn · 02-20-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by haywoodjay

some of you guys are completely delusional. i'm honestly having a hard time believing some of the nonsense you guys spew on a daily basis.

Nice to meet you, who the hell are you?.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-20-2007, 02:20 PM

This is probably The Diggler since he uses the same word delusional incorrectly everytime.

V2M · 02-20-2007, 02:20 PM

Verbal Sparring Feeds Mavericks-Heat Rivalry

By LIZ ROBBINS / NY Times
Published: February 18, 2007

LAS VEGAS, Feb. 17 — The Dallas Mavericks lead the league in victories and in rivals, as much as words make a war.

Their owner, Mark Cuban, playfully stirred the muddy Riverwalk waters last year, insulting the city of San Antonio before the Mavericks eliminated the Spurs in the playoffs. Then the Mavericks began the season still smarting from giving away the N.B.A. title to the Miami Heat. At least, that was the way Dirk Nowitzki voiced it.

Dwyane Wade, tired of the talk, shot back recently and questioned Nowitzki’s leadership in clutch situations. Cuban fired off an entry on his blog that questioned Wade’s ability to judge a leader.

“I have no personal issues against Dirk,” Wade said Friday. “We don’t guard each other. Dirk is a great player, and his team is having an unbelievable year. I don’t care what an individual has to say about me, but when you take a shot at my team, that’s when I feel it more than anything.”

Miami’s Shaquille O’Neal laughed at the “he-said, he-said,” repartee but then turned serious. “It’s part of the game, it’s part of marketing,” O’Neal said. “Dirk made a comment, Dwyane made a comment and then Dirk’s daddy had to stick up for him, so we’re just probably going to leave it at that.”

But O’Neal did have more to add.

“They’re a tough team, a great team, but what we did was historical, and that was an insult when people said they gave it to us,” he said. “They didn’t give us nothing.”

Dallas owns the best record in the league at 44-9, with a four-and-a-half-game lead over the Phoenix Suns and a nine-game lead over the Spurs in the Western Conference.

Miami, meanwhile, is only 26-26, and Coach Pat Riley will return from his surgery layoff for the game against Houston on Wednesday. The Heat comes to Dallas the next night.

“We met them once in the N.B.A. finals; I don’t think that’s a rivalry yet,” Nowitzki said. “What happened last year is over. They won the championship, and more than anything that pushes us forward.”

The Mavericks have lost only three times at home this season, winning 17 straight there since Dec. 7, when they fell to Detroit. Before Nowitzki and Josh Howard went to represent the Mavericks at All-Star weekend, Dallas edged its other Texas rival, the Houston Rockets, 80-77, on Thursday.

“The chemistry shows in all those close games we’ve been able to win,” said Nowitzki, who is putting up M.V.P.-type numbers (25.2 points and 12.4 rebounds a game) for the third consecutive season and will start in the All-Star Game in place of Yao Ming.

“We never give up, and that’s big. I think we learned how to win close games. That’s what took us to the finals. It’s been a fun ride, but obviously we know it’s still early.”

Even though the Houston All-Star Tracy McGrady bemoaned the lack of rivalries in the N.B.A., calling guys “too nice these days,” he said that did not apply to Dallas.

“Those guys are dirty,” McGrady said. “For real. They are dirty players. “They play the game the right way, but they have all the tricks. They get cheap shots in every now and then to just let you know that they’re there and they’re not going anywhere. And I respect that; that’s why they’re so good. They find a way.”

Those shots may be more subtle than the verbal variety. Mavericks guard Jason Terry, in Las Vegas for the 3-point shootout, did not want to pass up an opportunity to fuel the Heat rivalry.

“Deep down in their mind, they know what happened; you’re up, 2-0,” Terry said of the championship series. “Give them credit, they fought back. They did win a championship, but at the same time, we definitely feel like we gave it to them.”

Stay tuned.

haywoodjay · 02-20-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

This is probably The Diggler since he uses the same word delusional incorrectly everytime.

you wish.

look fellas, some of you make some solid points, but a lot of you are delusional.... take it from a moderately unbiased outsider. i just read so many posts on here the completely lack any shred of objectivity, it's kind of outstanding.

yall have a great team, but you haven't earned a damn thing yet that garners the arrogance i've read on here. things like "we might have lost in the finals, but everyone will remember us for being the better team...." i mean, is that a serious comment (not exact quote, btw)?

label me a troll if you will since it seems like nearly everyone on here that even raises slight criticism of the mavs is considered a troll (which should raise flags about the utter lack of objectivity on this board), but this is how most people outside of dallas feel.

hj

WurzburgBorn · 02-20-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by haywoodjay

you wish.

look fellas, some of you make some solid points, but a lot of you are delusional.... take it from a moderately unbiased outsider. i just read so many posts on here the completely lack any shred of objectivity, it's kind of outstanding.

yall have a great team, but you haven't earned a damn thing yet that garners the arrogance i've read on here. things like "we might have lost in the finals, but everyone will remember us for being the better team...." i mean, is that a serious comment (not exact quote, btw)?

label me a troll if you will since it seems like nearly everyone on here that even raises slight criticism of the mavs is considered a troll (which should raise flags about the utter lack of objectivity on this board), but this is how most people outside of dallas feel.

hj

Nice call Devin. That's definitely Diggler.

LRB · 02-20-2007, 03:09 PM

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Nice call Devin. That's definitely Diggler.

You can always tell it's the Diggler Troll from the stench of pugent fecal essence that permeates his every post. He posts like whistle boy plays.

Tokey41 · 02-20-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by haywoodjay

you wish.

look fellas, some of you make some solid points, but a lot of you are delusional.... take it from a moderately unbiased outsider. i just read so many posts on here the completely lack any shred of objectivity, it's kind of outstanding.

yall have a great team, but you haven't earned a damn thing yet that garners the arrogance i've read on here. things like "we might have lost in the finals, but everyone will remember us for being the better team...." i mean, is that a serious comment (not exact quote, btw)?

label me a troll if you will since it seems like nearly everyone on here that even raises slight criticism of the mavs is considered a troll (which should raise flags about the utter lack of objectivity on this board), but this is how most people outside of dallas feel.

hj

Appropriate criticism is always welcome since this is a discussion forum, but if you want to criticize the Mavericks on a Mavericks board you better be prepared to defend your argument well because at least one person will probably disagree with a negative comment (especially inaccurate or unfactual opinion bashing the Mavs). We don't have a groupthink type atmosphere here that you seem to be insinuating but it shouldn't come as a surprise that we share primarily positive views about our team and their recent success. Confidence is also appropriate in this situation, the best record in the league? Yeah, we should be pretty damn happy about that... even an objective person such as yourself should agree with that.

We all know some "outside, objective" people may see Dirk as starting the war of words (how many months ago), but if Wade was as classy as he's coming off he wouldn't have brought it up after it was indefinietly put to rest so long ago. It should be noted that it was Wade who brought the argument back up again and the only plausible reason for it was to try and defend himself from the media onslaught. Why else would he have waited so long? If he was going to defend his team he should have done it right after the comment was made, I think the media isn't thinking this out as clearly as they should... Wade said the comments to benefit himself adding to the list of reasons I hate him: selfishness.

LRB · 02-20-2007, 03:37 PM

Trollese to English transalation of "outside, objective" - Miami Heat Fan or Troll

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-20-2007, 04:08 PM

At least the guy that wrote that vegas article said dirk was averaging 12.4 rebounds a game. Nice press

LRB · 02-20-2007, 04:17 PM

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At least the guy that wrote that vegas article said dirk was averaging 12.4 rebounds a game. Nice press

Maybe that's the metric conversion for rebounds.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-20-2007, 04:18 PM

I honestly can't believe the same guy made a new name to continue this thread.

haywoodjay · 02-20-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I honestly can't believe the same guy made a new name to continue this thread.

i find it amusing that so many people here automatically assume i'm an alias of another critical poster.... thank you for proving my point.

appreciate the well thought-out response, tokey. and i actually do agree with most of what you wrote... this is pretty much a non-issue in my eyes, but i dont fault wade (much) in the situation either. apparently a reporter brought up the dirk quote recently and wade said what he felt; and there definitely was a lot of truth in what he said - no way should dirk allow the mavs to lose 4 straight like that, especially after taking the commanding 2-0 lead. but wade should've have just let it go.... 8 months after the fact is no time for your rebuttal.

i applaud dirk for not fanning the flames this weekend.

kg_veteran · 02-20-2007, 05:00 PM

FWIW, I do not think that haywoodjay and TheDiggler are the same person. Let's take it easy on newcomers. No reason to automatically assume they are a troll just because they have a strong opinion.

Dirkadirkastan · 02-20-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

FWIW, I do not think that haywoodjay and TheDiggler are the same person. Let's take it easy on newcomers. No reason to automatically assume they are a troll just because they have a strong opinion.

I still think "you're all delusional" is a pretty rude first post and doesn't contribute to the discussion at all. I hold nothing against anyone who chooses to flame the newbie.

haywoodjay · 02-20-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

I still think "you're all delusional" is a pretty rude first post and doesn't contribute to the discussion at all. I hold nothing against anyone who chooses to flame the newbie.

i like to come out guns blazing.

bernardos70 · 02-20-2007, 06:51 PM

But hey....... would ya?

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-20-2007, 08:12 PM

Are you kidding, this guy is Diggler, it's obvious and pathetic. You guys chat with him if you like, I'm outa here now for good. I feel quite pathetic responding to the same troll's posts.

mavsman · 02-20-2007, 09:41 PM

I guess somebody forgot to stick the "Don't drink and drivel!"-Post-It to Tony Mejia's laptop. Here's what he and his genius came up with:

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Nowitzki did his best to dispel rumors of a budding feud.
"It's over. I said something he didn't like, he said something I didn't like. Now we can concentrate on basketball," said the MVP front-runner. "There's nothing there. Of course the media is always going to blow things out of proportion. He's a great player."
Yes, the media constantly makes stuff up. Right.

Okay, Tony, so Dirk said that "the media is always going to blow things out of proportion." Claiming he said that "the media constantly makes stuff up" could be called "blowing things out of proportion", don't you think? Does your brain hurt now?