07-07-2022, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by purplefrog
As best I can tell, he seems to be mostly a scorer. His Euroleague 3pt% is close to 40%.
If the Mavs add Dorsey, do they really need THJ? Hardy + Dorsey + THJ seems redundant...Maybe another trade on the horizon?
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Powell /thj and Bertrans are not needed. Get rid them.
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07-07-2022, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Amarelooms
Powell /thj and Bertrans are not needed. Get rid them.
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Getting rid of THJ and Bertans is harder than you might think. The Mavs shopped around THJ last season and nobody was interested, and Bertans is practically infamous for having one of the worst contracts in the league. Both of those guys are probably at least a year away from being tradeable.
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07-07-2022, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Getting rid of THJ and Bertans is harder than you might think. The Mavs shopped around THJ last season and nobody was interested, and Bertans is practically infamous for having one of the worst contracts in the league. Both of those guys are probably at least a year away from being tradeable.
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Throw in a first 4-5 years from now. We should be good and late round first mostly worthless.
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07-07-2022, 09:32 AM
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Well if they are going to sign Dorsey, which IMO is a snooze signing, then they are for sure serious about giving Hardy minutes this season.
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Last edited by DevinHarriswillstart; 07-07-2022 at 09:32 AM.
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07-07-2022, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Amarelooms
Throw in a first 4-5 years from now. We should be good and late round first mostly worthless.
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What for? Just keep them for another year and then they're tradeable. First round picks, even late ones, are NOT worthless. Why are we so desperate to get rid of THJ and Bertans that we'll give up the precious few assets we have?
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07-07-2022, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Amarelooms
Throw in a first 4-5 years from now. We should be good and late round first mostly worthless.
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Stop. Trading. Picks.
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07-07-2022, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BPo001
Stop. Trading. Picks.
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Thank you. We've traded 4 picks in 5 years. Those moves were all justifiable, even the KP trade, but not getting anything out of the draft year after year has a cumulative effect.
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07-07-2022, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Thank you. We've traded 4 picks in 5 years. Those moves were all justifiable, even the KP trade, but not getting anything out of the draft year after year has a cumulative effect.
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And look what you get for the 37th pick. Just draft better.
We've been conditioned by Rick that rookies won't play, and no doubt, Hardy would get zero minutes under him.
Not Kidd. Kidd will give him every opportunity to succeed.
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07-07-2022, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
And look what you get for the 37th pick. Just draft better.
We've been conditioned by Rick that rookies won't play, and no doubt, Hardy would get zero minutes under him.
Not Kidd. Kidd will give him every opportunity to succeed.
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As an All American guard, Kidd has gone through the process and knows what the kid has been through. I think Kidd can have an impact on Hardy on and off the court.
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07-07-2022, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
And look what you get for the 37th pick. Just draft better.
We've been conditioned by Rick that rookies won't play, and no doubt, Hardy would get zero minutes under him.
Not Kidd. Kidd will give him every opportunity to succeed.
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Brunson as a second round pick averaged 22 min per game his rookie season. He started 38 games. He was a seasoned college player though, so not comparable to Hardy. If Kidd chooses not to give a player who has barely played any basketball outside of high school much burn, I?m not going to fault him.
I don?t know how any of us can even have an opinion on how much this guy will or should play at this time.
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07-07-2022, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
And look what you get for the 37th pick. Just draft better.
We've been conditioned by Rick that rookies won't play, and no doubt, Hardy would get zero minutes under him.
Not Kidd. Kidd will give him every opportunity to succeed.
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Hardy is why I keep trading 1st rounders. I mean I don't think you should give them away but if you are trading them for a starter with All Star potential? Its worth it. I don't think any player taken around where we were picking was as good as Wood. I can always either trade into the late 1st round or trade into the 2nd.
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07-08-2022, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Thank you. We've traded 4 picks in 5 years. Those moves were all justifiable, even the KP trade, but not getting anything out of the draft year after year has a cumulative effect.
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So the best draft picks since Dirk was drafted we traded for. We did not initially have the draft picks that gave us Dirk Nowitzki, Devin Harris, or Luka Doncic. Who is the player we drafted with a draft pick we actually kept since trading down to acquire Dirk?
Without looking it up... I am guessing Josh Howard or Jalen Brunson.
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07-08-2022, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane
So the best draft picks since Dirk was drafted we traded for. We did not initially have the draft picks that gave us Dirk Nowitzki, Devin Harris, or Luka Doncic. Who is the player we drafted with a draft pick we actually kept since trading down to acquire Dirk?
Without looking it up... I am guessing Josh Howard or Jalen Brunson.
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07-07-2022, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amarelooms
Powell /thj and Bertrans are not needed. Get rid them.
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Easier said than done. Bertans contract is one of the worst in the league. Nobody wanted THJ last year when he was healthy, and prob not now that he is coming off an injury.
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