iPhone

[Rick41]

If your contract ends anywhere between today and December 31st, you can upgrade early (6/24). Any day after that you would have to wait. Say you have one on Jan 1st, you would have to wait until Jan 1st to get it and a person with a December 31st upgrade can get it on June 24th. It is only this 6 month window of opportunity.

I lucked out, my upgrade would have been coming until December 29th. I made the window by 2 days.

[MavsX]

Originally Posted by Rick41

If your contract ends anywhere between today and December 31st, you can upgrade early (6/24). Any day after that you would have to wait. Say you have one on Jan 1st, you would have to wait until Jan 1st to get it and a person with a December 31st upgrade can get it on June 24th. It is only this 6 month window of opportunity.

I lucked out, my upgrade would have been coming until December 29th. I made the window by 2 days.

there is going to be a firestorm of people complaining about that one. I'm still unsure of what i would do. I would probably need to see the new iPhone in person. I kinda wonder why AT&T wouldn't let people just upgrade to the new iPhone every year? It just keeps extending people's contracts which means more money in their pockets. It keeps their customer base growing. Not to mention, when someone sells their old iPhone, the person who buys that, might throw that on AT&T's network; which again is more revenue from them. Any thoughts from anybody? Yes, i realize that AT&T gives Apple > $300 bones per device sold.

[MavsX]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

How many phones do 720p video? maybe 2 or 3?

Originally Posted by jthig32

Three that I can think of.

I'm not saying it's not a sweet phone. Just doesn't really justify the fervor it causes when comparable phones are being released to much less fanfare.

I originally was like eh, who cares about 720p video. But the more i think about it, that would be awesome! I love taking videos of my dog or of me shooting guns and throwing those videos up on youtube. I also enjoy filming random stuff at parties or whatever. I usually just use my canon sd 710 (i think) and it shoots videos at 640 X 480..so it's pretty crappy. But, not that bad. If the iPhone could do a lot better, it's one less device to carry around, or one less device to pack in my range bag, etc. Genius.

I am concerned though about the iPhone having glass on the front and the back of the phone, but in the presentation, they said, the glass is 20 times stronger than plastic. So i guess we shall see.

[MavsX]

Originally Posted by ShaggyDirk

I don't really understand why they don't do the flash..or java? I don't know the technical reasons I guess because I am not fluent in that area... but it's almost like they don't just because they can.

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

They have claimed that it would drain battery life. But other phones obviously support it.

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

The Flash thing has got to be about copyright and control, as in, Flash would cause them to give up some measure of control over what you can do with your iphone.

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

I agree that is what it is probably really about. You see how controlling they are with the apps.

FLASH THOUGHTS-

I've read that steve jobs hates adobe flash, because it is buggy and crashes. I've read that he thinks there are much better alternatives than flash. I'm assuming he means HTML 5. I think battery draining is also in issue too. Another thing that i personally believe is why they said no to flash is this: how many websites on the internet have free games that are embedded on the site in flash? Like a million, right? Well, what are some of the hottest apps in the app store? Games. Yes, that's right. It is my opinion that if Jobs allowed flash on the iPhone, then people could play games on web pages, which would reduce people downloading and playing games from the app store. This, in turn would/could reduce revenue for apple and also for app developers. Which probably funks up their whole business model regarding the app store. Not to mention now they have that crappy iAd service or whatever. What do you guys think?

[Rhylan]

Originally Posted by MavsX

FLASH THOUGHTS-

I've read that steve jobs hates adobe flash, because it is buggy and crashes. I've read that he thinks there are much better alternatives than flash. I'm assuming he means HTML 5. I think battery draining is also in issue too. Another thing that i personally believe is why they said no to flash is this: how many websites on the internet have free games that are embedded on the site in flash? Like a million, right? Well, what are some of the hottest apps in the app store? Games. Yes, that's right. It is my opinion that if Jobs allowed flash on the iPhone, then people could play games on web pages, which would reduce people downloading and playing games from the app store. This, in turn would/could reduce revenue for apple and also for app developers. Which probably funks up their whole business model regarding the app store. Not to mention now they have that crappy iAd service or whatever. What do you guys think?

The biggest thing, to me, is that Flash is a standard that is controlled by another company.. thus, Adobe could make decisions, if they wanted, that would intentionally affect Apple strategically. Aspects of new Flash versions that Apple would be virtually forced to support could potentially have significant effects on the way the device operates, or the way they have to design Safari or the OS, or whatever.

Flash is so widespread that if you choose to support it on a device with such a tightly controlled design & architecture as the iPhone, you basically put yourself into a forced partnership with Adobe. Every decision they make can have impact on a part of your business that shows it needs to be tightly controlled to succeed (up to this point).

It's simple self-interest. If you had the choice of adopting an open standard or a closed standard, and can still make money hand over fist adopting the open standard, that's what you do. That means the only one controlling your cash register is you.

[MavsX]

Originally Posted by Rhylan

The biggest thing, to me, is that Flash is a standard that is controlled by another company.. thus, Adobe could make decisions, if they wanted, that would intentionally affect Apple strategically. Aspects of new Flash versions that Apple would be virtually forced to support could potentially have significant effects on the way the device operates, or the way they have to design Safari or the OS, or whatever.

Flash is so widespread that if you choose to support it on a device with such a tightly controlled design & architecture as the iPhone, you basically put yourself into a forced partnership with Adobe. Every decision they make can have impact on a part of your business that shows it needs to be tightly controlled to succeed (up to this point).

It's simple self-interest. If you had the choice of adopting an open standard or a closed standard, and can still make money hand over fist adopting the open standard, that's what you do. That means the only one controlling your cash register is you.

good point