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MFFL · 06-16-2022, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Lets go through this year's teams-

Suns
Grizzlies
GSW
Mavs
Jazz
Nuggets
Wolves
Pelicans

Of the teams you listed, only the Nuggets and Pelicans are going to be better since they are getting players back. The rest are staying the same or dropping back.

And yes, the Clippers are going to be better (assuming their 2 headed monster attack is back).

But the Mavs are adding two players to our current group so I'm expecting big things from the team. Obviously I would like to see another big move but really I would be happy to see a bruising center type (like a Drummond) added to the mix just to take some of the regular season pounding.

NeedlesKane · 06-16-2022, 10:59 PM

itzki!

BPo001 · 06-17-2022, 09:13 AM

Marc Stein: As the leaguewide focus rapidly shifts to next week?s draft and the June 30 start of free agency, sources say Dallas ? while prioritizing its need for more wing help ? does intend to explore the possibility of signing Goran Dragic this summer. ? via Twitter TheSteinLine

BPo001 · 06-17-2022, 02:17 PM

Looks like according to JB Instagram him and Maxi are working out together. Well kinda? Maxi forgot his shoes again (he forgot them once last summer too).

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-17-2022, 03:01 PM

Brunson isn't going anywhere. He isn't going to go win 20-30 games on the Knicks or Pistons from a situation where he will be on a top 5 team.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-17-2022, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Brunson isn't going anywhere. He isn't going to go win 20-30 games on the Knicks or Pistons from a situation where he will be on a top 5 team.

This. I've read numerous times that playing for a winning team is very important to him.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-17-2022, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

This. I've read numerous times that playing for a winning team is very important to him.

NOW if another contender wants him, then that could change things. Like Miami for instance who managed to get Butler when they had no cap space. And Lowry has been a disaster for them. I know, I know, they are way over the cap, but somehow these teams manage to do this crap.

Don't be surprised when some out of left field team comes swinging for the fences.

NeedlesKane · 06-17-2022, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

This. I've read numerous times that playing for a winning team is very important to him.

See him pull out his Villanova ring during The Long Shot interview? What you read appears to be 100% right.

BPo001 · 06-20-2022, 12:27 PM

The Mavericks? looming acquisition of Christian Wood through the first major trade of the offseason makes it ?far less likely,? according to one source, that they will utilize the $10.9 million trade exception at their disposal through June 27, which they created by trading Josh Richardson to Boston in July 2021. ? via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

Hopefully this is inaccurate and the FO uses every avenue to improve this roster. There?s not a wing or backup big we can use the TPE for? I could be wrong, but I feel like we rarely use our TPE?s when we have them.

BPo001 · 06-20-2022, 08:58 PM

JD Shaw: Sources: The @Dallas Mavericks are hosting a free-agent mini-camp this week that will have over 30 players attending. Dallas is trading four players in the Christian Wood deal, so it will soon have open roster spots. 7 hours ago ? via Twitter JShawNBA

JD Shaw: The Mavericks also hosted veteran guards Dion Waiters and Tyreke Evans in their mini-camp today, source tells @HoopsRumors. ? via Twitter JShawNBA

JD Shaw: Among the attendees: AJ Lawson, Chris Clemons, Emanuel Terry, Grant Riller, Isaiah Brown, Jalen Lecque, Jay Huff, Justin Gorham, Langston Galloway and Sekou Wiggs, plus several other players. 7 hours ago ? via Twitter JShawNBA

SMC0007 · 06-21-2022, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

JD Shaw: Sources: The @Dallas Mavericks are hosting a free-agent mini-camp this week that will have over 30 players attending. Dallas is trading four players in the Christian Wood deal, so it will soon have open roster spots. 7 hours ago ? via Twitter JShawNBA

JD Shaw: The Mavericks also hosted veteran guards Dion Waiters and Tyreke Evans in their mini-camp today, source tells @HoopsRumors. ? via Twitter JShawNBA

JD Shaw: Among the attendees: AJ Lawson, Chris Clemons, Emanuel Terry, Grant Riller, Isaiah Brown, Jalen Lecque, Jay Huff, Justin Gorham, Langston Galloway and Sekou Wiggs, plus several other players. 7 hours ago ? via Twitter JShawNBA

Tyreke Evans is a low risk move to get some handles at the wing. I'd 100% toss him a life line to see if he can pull himself back into the ship. Getting a hungry guy with handles and experience(ish) is worth a long look.

BPo001 · 06-21-2022, 08:22 AM

Per Jake Fischer @ Bleacher Report:

In forecasting their offseason dealings, the Knicks are said to be targeting roughly $25 million in room to be able to chase Dallas Mavericks point guard Jalen Brunson, and they are expected to find new homes for Alec Burks and Nerlens Noel, among other moves. Even if New York pivoted away from Brunson, who league personnel widely believe will return to Dallas, the Knicks would have a large gap to meet Irving's contractual wishes.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-21-2022, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Per Jake Fischer @ Bleacher Report:

In forecasting their offseason dealings, the Knicks are said to be targeting roughly $25 million in room to be able to chase Dallas Mavericks point guard Jalen Brunson, and they are expected to find new homes for Alec Burks and Nerlens Noel, among other moves. Even if New York pivoted away from Brunson, who league personnel widely believe will return to Dallas, the Knicks would have a large gap to meet Irving's contractual wishes.

I predict that the Knicks will swing and miss and end up with nothing, just like they always do. Brunson is staying here, and there's no way Brooklyn is giving away Kyrie just yet before he, KD, and Simmons play a single game together.

BPo001 · 06-21-2022, 07:59 PM

Tim MacMahon: Sources: Maxi Kleber remains a significant part of the Mavs? plans after the Christian Wood trade. His $9 million salary isn?t guaranteed until July 4, but that is considered a formality. ? via Twitter espn_macmahon

BPo001 · 06-21-2022, 10:06 PM

Report: Jalen Brunson has told former and current teammates that his return to Dallas is essentially a done deal.

#MFFL via
@JakeLFischer

Thespiralgoeson · 06-22-2022, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Report: Jalen Brunson has told former and current teammates that his return to Dallas is essentially a done deal.

#MFFL via
@JakeLFischer

Hell yeah! Just need a backup wing and backup 5 and we're ready to go.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2022, 12:00 PM

Josh Green is our Thybulle so pass unless we move Green. Thybulle is also very overrated.

I'm not sure Danny Green even plays next season after that injury.

tap2390 · 06-22-2022, 03:29 PM

What if the 76ers threw in the 23rd pick for us taking on Danny Green?

Thespiralgoeson · 06-22-2022, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

What if the 76ers threw in the 23rd pick for us taking on Danny Green?

I've seen that idea floated around quite a bit, and I would do that in a heartbeat. It remains to be seen how far Cuban is willing to go into the luxury tax just to get a draft pick.

For whatever this is worth (and I don't think it's worth much,) the Athletic just reported that the Mavs are looking to get into the late first round or early second round- specifically the Mavs are apparently interested in Trevor Keels out of Duke.

https://twitter.com/_TradeDeadline/s...htmode%3Dfalse

BPo001 · 06-22-2022, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

What if the 76ers threw in the 23rd pick for us taking on Danny Green?

I thought the same and posted something about it in the draft thread before I edited it. Greens contract isn?t guaranteed if he is released before July 1, so they could just release him and keep their 1st couldnt they?

I don?t know the ins and outs of how contracts/salary caps work, but I assume Philly can just release Green and his co tract is off the books.

tap2390 · 06-23-2022, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

I thought the same and posted something about it in the draft thread before I edited it. Greens contract isn?t guaranteed if he is released before July 1, so they could just release him and keep their 1st couldnt they?

I don?t know the ins and outs of how contracts/salary caps work, but I assume Philly can just release Green and his co tract is off the books.

Ahh didn't realize that. You're correct, he likely gets waived.

BPo001 · 06-23-2022, 03:16 PM

Adrian Wojnarowski
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ESPN Sources: If Kyrie Irving can?t reach an agreement to stay with Brooklyn, he has a list of teams he?d like them to consider on sign-and-trades, including Lakers, Clippers, Knicks, Heat, Mavs and 76ers. None of those teams have cap space to sign him without Nets? help.

JustJay · 06-23-2022, 05:01 PM

I'd trade Dimwiddle back to his first team and filler for Kyrie. That's probably as good as we can offer if we're not offering Brunson in a sign and trade. But since Brunson wants to be in Dallas I don't see that happening.

But with Cuban's stance on the vaccine Kyrie would have to get it to come here. So probably mark us out.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-23-2022, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

I'd trade Dimwiddle back to his first team and filler for Kyrie. That's probably as good as we can offer if we're not offering Brunson in a sign and trade. But since Brunson wants to be in Dallas I don't see that happening.

But with Cuban's stance on the vaccine Kyrie would have to get it to come here. So probably mark us out.

Does Kyrie still want to play NBA basketball?

Thespiralgoeson · 06-23-2022, 05:31 PM

Even IF we could make a trade work for Kyrie, and I'm skeptical we could... no thanks. Hard pass on a guy who A: seems completely disinterested in basketball and could retire at any moment, and B: alienates absolutely everyone around him and brings misery and dysfunction everywhere he goes.

Kyrie is in same category as Westbrook for me. I don't care how talented they are or what they've accomplished in the past. They are both cancers that I want nowhere near my team.

My god, if you thought Porzingis was a risky, all-in type of move, just imagine trading multiple players for Kyrie. Even in an absolute best case scenario, where Kyrie is 100% invested and healthy and actually plays basketball at a high level consistently, the on-court fit with Luka is not good.

JustJay · 06-23-2022, 06:26 PM

He's made so much money there's speculation he could take the 6 million dollar tax payer exception from the Lakers.

If Kyrie opts out and leaves then most likely KD will want a trade.

BPo001 · 06-23-2022, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

He's made so much money there's speculation he could take the 6 million dollar tax payer exception from the Lakers.

If Kyrie opts out and leaves then most likely KD will want a trade.

Part of me says let KD rot in Brooklyn. The other part of me says Cuban/Nico need to bring KD to Dallas.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-23-2022, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Part of me says let KD rot in Brooklyn. The other part of me says Cuban/Nico need to bring KD to Dallas.

I seriously doubt there's any way the Mavs could make it happen, but if you can get Kevin Durant, then you ab-so-f*cking-lutely get Kevin Durant.

SMC0007 · 06-23-2022, 09:24 PM

Mavs Twitter in shambles again as NYK clears more space and trades #11. Lol

Thespiralgoeson · 06-23-2022, 10:31 PM

Per Woj:

The Kings are trading No. 37 to the Mavericks for two future second-round picks, source tells ESPN. Dallas is focused on Jaden Hardy with pick.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-23-2022, 10:31 PM

Per Woj:

The Kings are trading No. 37 to the Mavericks for two future second-round picks, source tells ESPN. Dallas is focused on Jaden Hardy with pick.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-23-2022, 10:32 PM

Man, Nico...

Thespiralgoeson · 06-23-2022, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Man, Nico...

Yeah, I have no idea if this Hardy kid can play in the NBA, but he looked pretty good in the g-league from what I've seen on youtube. He probably won't contribute next season, but let him develop for a year and see what happens.

Either way, I just love how aggressive Nico is.

BPo001 · 06-23-2022, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Yeah, I have no idea if this Hardy kid can play in the NBA, but he looked pretty good in the g-league from what I've seen on youtube. He probably won't contribute next season, but let him develop for a year and see what happens.

Either way, I just love how aggressive Nico is.

Dude has potential if he keeps working. Guy can get buckets. Was the #2 recruit coming out of high school, so there?s talent there.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-23-2022, 10:56 PM

His stock started to fall but there was a point that no way he falls to 26. SUcks we had to give up two seconds though when everyone else traded a 2nd and first for similar value.

tap2390 · 06-23-2022, 11:10 PM

I like the pick. He plays a lot like Jordan Poole.

texasbball · 06-23-2022, 11:21 PM

Man, I don't post often. But you get a starting top 15 or so center in the league and a guy that could have been lottery from what I've read last year, and NJ at 23 was one projected take this year, out of this draft. Not bad. Not had at all.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-23-2022, 11:35 PM

All we really need now is a bruiser-type center.

Scoobay · 06-24-2022, 12:25 AM

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All we really need now is a bruiser-type center.

Give Kofi cockburn a ring?

EricaLubarsky · 06-24-2022, 02:21 AM

Cost seems steep to trade two seconds for one but our seconds are probably 50-60 and thats really how draft value works. Imagine if we were the other team and traded the 30-something pick that was Brunson for a 55 and a 60 pick that are unlikely to be anything

I?m not super high on the guy we got. Even in gleague he struggled to make good decisions and score efficiently but if scouting and coach likes him, he was first round talent. Last time we grabbed a first round talent in the second cut was Brunson. If he washes out, it only cost us two picks that had even worse odds of succeeding