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Murphy3 · 07-10-2012, 02:56 PM

20 minutes a game.. hell yeah I'd take him if the price is right.

grndmstr_c · 07-10-2012, 03:16 PM

Korver may not be more than an 8th man on a contending team, but he's exactly what a contending team wants in an 8th man. Would I like to see Dallas find a wing shooter who's younger and more athletic? Sure. But Korver's still an elite shooter, and I'd take him gladly.

purplefrog · 07-10-2012, 03:25 PM

You can never have enough shooters. Hell yes, I'd go after Korver. Sign up Belinelli and Brandon Rush while you're at it. Might want to call Peja and Reggie Miller too since the MBT clearly has the time to spare. I bet Peja and Reggie would sign a one year deal.

Bayliss · 07-10-2012, 04:25 PM

Lou Williams just sign with Atlanta. If the Mavs don't get Sessions, they might just make a play with Atlanta for Devin Harris.

mac222b · 07-10-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

You can never have enough shooters. Hell yes, I'd go after Korver. Sign up Belinelli and Brandon Rush while you're at it. Might want to call Peja and Reggie Miller too since the MBT clearly has the time to spare. I bet Peja and Reggie would sign a one year deal.

After we trade for Dwight we'll need all the shooters we can get!

Hersey Hawkins?

BPo001 · 07-10-2012, 05:29 PM

Any idea what Houston would want for Kevin Martin? Doesn't he have an expiring contact?

bugbee09 · 07-10-2012, 05:47 PM

Houston is trying to clear cap space for their Howard offer - Martin only has 1 year at 12.5 million - what would it take? Would be a big pick up

BGMaverick9 · 07-10-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bugbee09

Houston is trying to clear cap space for their Howard offer - Martin only has 1 year at 12.5 million - what would it take? Would be a big pick up

Or they could just use Martin in the deal for Howard.

grndmstr_c · 07-10-2012, 06:45 PM

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Or they could just use Martin in the deal for Howard.

Hey, you're good at this.

BGMaverick9 · 07-10-2012, 07:13 PM

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Hey, you're good at this.

I DO have the play-at-home version of the game.

saclare · 07-10-2012, 07:16 PM

Does anyone know what our assets are as far as draft picks? Our own or those acquired through trade?

ocelot_ark · 07-10-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Ronnie Brewer, Kyle Korver, and CJ Watson are likely to be waived by the Bulls.

Mavs could use Brewer and Korver on their roster. Both fill a need (Korver's shooting + Brewer's defense).....

I would take Brewer and Korver. Brewer's basically a poor man's Shawn Marion. Sounds like a pretty awesome backup for SF. Korver? We desperately need more shooters.

turin · 07-10-2012, 08:50 PM

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Ya know...it just hit me. For a guy who spends so much time on a stair master, he has precious little to show for it!

Kind of like cap space.

Wow, I've been out of touch a few weeks and have only received intermittent news on the Mavs. Thanks for the discussion everyone. I'm a bit depressed at the moment. It doesn't seem that long ago that me and my wife were in Miami for Game 6 watching the Mavs win it all and meeting Dirk and the team at the buses after. I think I'm sicker for Dirk than anything. Sheesh, outside of pulling Dwight Howard out of thin air, it's going to be a rough year imo.

BGMaverick9 · 07-10-2012, 11:18 PM

Bayless is off the "board" as he'll be signing with Memphis.

grndmstr_c · 07-10-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Bayless is off the "board" as he'll be signing with Memphis.

I'll be interested to hear what the terms are.

Bayliss · 07-10-2012, 11:32 PM

And the amnesty provision has officially started. So maybe at around this time on Thursday the Mavs may know if they got Brand.

With them signing Bayless, maybe that creates room for Mayo. I can hope at least. Rumor going around he'll sign with the Pacers though.

BGMaverick9 · 07-11-2012, 12:28 AM

Stein just tweeted that Mayo will be heavily pursued by the Suns if the Hornets match the offer sheet for Gordon (which is expected).

He15man · 07-11-2012, 03:37 AM

Mavs are really pissing me off, what do they hope to achieve honestly?

1 year deals and hope some big name player gets let go?

Try and sign CP3 in the off-season?

Go out and get some of these guys, at least they might become trade assets in the future.

Make some moves Cuban or get out of the way and let somebody who will.

Man this is frustrating. I love Cuban and he is a huge reason i am a Mavs fan but this off-season has been very frustrating to follow.

He15man · 07-11-2012, 06:34 AM

Life after Deron consists of every other NBA team signing all the decent free agents while the Mavs are sitting at home watching re-runs of Shark Tank.

Underdog · 07-11-2012, 07:13 AM

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Mavs are really pissing me off, what do they hope to achieve honestly?

TANK! TANK! TANK! TANK!

(too bad next year's draft doesn't look as good as this year's...)

SMC0007 · 07-11-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by He15man

Mavs are really pissing me off, what do they hope to achieve honestly?

1 year deals and hope some big name player gets let go?

Try and sign CP3 in the off-season?

Go out and get some of these guys, at least they might become trade assets in the future.

Make some moves Cuban or get out of the way and let somebody who will.

Man this is frustrating. I love Cuban and he is a huge reason i am a Mavs fan but this off-season has been very frustrating to follow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iahGMAtq5vY

Murphy3 · 07-11-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

TANK! TANK! TANK! TANK!

(too bad next year's draft doesn't look as good as this year's...)

The Mavs would just trade the #1 pick for 15 second rounders..

dude1394 · 07-11-2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by He15man

Mavs are really pissing me off, what do they hope to achieve honestly?

1 year deals and hope some big name player gets let go?

Try and sign CP3 in the off-season?

Go out and get some of these guys, at least they might become trade assets in the future.

Make some moves Cuban or get out of the way and let somebody who will.

Man this is frustrating. I love Cuban and he is a huge reason i am a Mavs fan but this off-season has been very frustrating to follow.

Yea I just cannot figure out what the plan is other than wait until some superstar is available. They do not even seem to be interested in players that might be a part of this thing in two years, let alone 3. I just do not get it.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-11-2012, 08:23 AM

WTF is this? Don't see this being discussed anywhere...

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...ios_With_Magic

Gee, I'd love to have Andrew Bynum...

jthig32 · 07-11-2012, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

And the amnesty provision has officially started. So maybe at around this time on Thursday the Mavs may know if they got Brand.

With them signing Bayless, maybe that creates room for Mayo. I can hope at least. Rumor going around he'll sign with the Pacers though.

Won't know until Friday, assuming they amnesty him today.

oilfieldtrash · 07-11-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

WTF is this? Don't see this being discussed anywhere...

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...ios_With_Magic

Gee, I'd love to have Andrew Bynum...

That's because it's not a realistic discussion. We have one asset on the mavs, Dirk. FO has already said Dirk isn't going anywhere. So unless the Lakers are willing accept a package of Roddy, Dojo, and a handful of second round draft picks we are out of luck.

Murphy3 · 07-11-2012, 08:38 AM

The Mavs have worked themselves into a place in which they just don't have alot of players that are assets for what they can do on the court. Dirk could be moved.. I suppose Marion could be moved at the trading deadline if someone is just looking for a kick ass defender but his contract would still be a bit prohibitive.

Bayliss · 07-11-2012, 09:59 AM

Well, another swingman is off the market. Jerry Stackhouse signs with Brooklyn for 1.3 million.

Bayliss · 07-11-2012, 11:11 AM

David Aldridge retweeted that Korver is likely headed to Minnesota in a trade.

Bayliss · 07-16-2012, 11:20 PM

P.S.

F*ck Deron.

BPo001 · 07-19-2012, 03:06 PM

Wasn't sure what thread to post this in, but how can Orlando be interested in trading Howard to the Lakers? The draft picks they would receive would be late picks. Am I crazy for thinking the offer Houston offered of picks + eating most of their bad contracts that Orlando wants to unload? Did Houston finally resign to the fact that Howard really wants to be in a big market and won't re-sign?

Kidd Karma · 07-19-2012, 03:17 PM

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Wasn't sure what thread to post this in, but how can Orlando be interested in trading Howard to the Lakers? The draft picks they would receive would be late picks. Am I crazy for thinking the offer Houston offered of picks + eating most of their bad contracts that Orlando wants to unload? Did Houston finally resign to the fact that Howard really wants to be in a big market and won't re-sign?

Could be, but they were dumping contracts left and right all the way up to Scola....which at that point, it was on Orlando, to make a deal, but for some reason, nothing was done, then it seems Houston's been out since they inked the offer with Lin last Saturday, at least no rumors of dealings. Lakers all up it in with Howard, since last weekend. Looks like it was more of a timing issue than anything, sort of like us going after Deron without rumoring a move in addition to Deron.

Wang Zhi Zhi · 07-19-2012, 04:09 PM

Back to Deron. If I have my math and facts right, our max offer to DW was ~ $19MM a year.

Instead, for almost the exact same amount (assument 4 for OJ), we got Kaman ($8MM), Mayo ($4MM), DJ ($2.9MM), Collison ($2.3MM), and Brand ($2.1MM).

So, (1)Are we actually a better team for having those 5 guys instead of DW by himself and (2) did the MBT come to the same conclusion, which explains their lackluster sales-pitch (and yes, whatever lame-a** excuse you want to believe, Cuban blowing off the meeting means it was a weak sales pitch) to DW?

jthig32 · 07-19-2012, 04:30 PM

Contractual obligation is a lame-ass excuse. Huh.

Kidd Karma · 07-19-2012, 04:36 PM

....and Kidd's retraction allowed us to pick up Mayo at the end? Nice win win situation, trust in Cubes to get it done, even though some wanted his head on a platter.

oilfieldtrash · 07-19-2012, 04:40 PM

Im not gonna lie. If Howard goes to the Lakers im gonna be pissed. Its Howard or bust at this point. CP3 isn't leaving LA.

Wang Zhi Zhi · 07-19-2012, 04:51 PM

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Contractual obligation is a lame-ass excuse. Huh.

To freaking Shark Tank, that can be filmed any time, against the most critical meeting he's had in years that has been in the works for over a year?!

Yes it absolutely is a lame-a** and insulting excuse. The Mavs are his biggest investment and most important priority. ST is a side-hobby that does not take priority over the single-biggest matter facing the Mavs.

Appointments get changed, modified, or simply broken all the time. He had plenty of time to give his little TV show advanced notice that he'd be in NY for half a day, and they'd simply have to work with him on it. You're acting like he'd be thrown in jail for it.

It is beyond ludicrous that he blew off the meeting for that (unless he really didn't want him), and one really has to be a blind Cuban apologist not to see it.

Underdog · 07-19-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wang Zhi Zhi

To freaking Shark Tank, that can be filmed any time

No it can't - you have zero understanding of how television works... It takes 50+ people who aren't Mark Cuban to get each episode made... That's why there's a schedule... And contracts that require everyone involved to adhere to that schedule... Otherwise nobody gets paid... Which tends to piss off the union... And that's a good way to get yourself blacklisted from the entertainment industry forever... Which isn't Mark Cuban's prerogative.

oilfieldtrash · 07-19-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

No it can't - you have zero understanding of how television works... It takes 50+ people who aren't Mark Cuban to get each episode made... That's why there's a schedule... And contracts that require everyone involved to adhere to that schedule... Otherwise nobody gets paid... Which tends to piss off the union... And that's a good way to get yourself blacklisted from the entertainment industry forever... Which isn't Mark Cuban's prerogative.

He should of been there. They rebounded nicely but they are still without a young franchise guy.

jthig32 · 07-19-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wang Zhi Zhi

To freaking Shark Tank, that can be filmed any time, against the most critical meeting he's had in years that has been in the works for over a year?!

Yes it absolutely is a lame-a** and insulting excuse. The Mavs are his biggest investment and most important priority. ST is a side-hobby that does not take priority over the single-biggest matter facing the Mavs.

Appointments get changed, modified, or simply broken all the time. He had plenty of time to give his little TV show advanced notice that he'd be in NY for half a day, and they'd simply have to work with him on it. You're acting like he'd be thrown in jail for it.

It is beyond ludicrous that he blew off the meeting for that (unless he really didn't want him), and one really has to be a blind Cuban apologist not to see it.

So we have three options here:

1. He wanted to be there, but was contractually bound to the tv show. He made it work by being in the meeting via Skype (I believe this part has been confirmed).

2. He didn't actually want Deron, so he just blew it off.

3. He could have been there, and he really did want Deron, but he just decided it wasn't that important.

Which of these three seems most likely?

For the record, I'm not real happy that he wasn't there. But I'm also an adult and am aware of the realities of business and contracts.