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Underdog · 07-18-2013, 07:50 PM

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A side of me wants us to bid on Mike Miller. We could stash someone like Ledo or Mekel to the D-league. Miller would be decent as Marion's backup. Which can shift Carter at SG. Our bench could be very underrated. It also takes a lot of pressure off Crowder.

Harris, Carter, Miller, Wright, and Sarge/Oden as the backup squad.

We don't have the money to chase Miller - he's only going to take minimum from a surefire contender like OKC or San Antonio.

Five-ofan · 07-18-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

We don't have the money to chase Miller - he's only going to take minimum from a surefire contender like OKC or San Antonio.

He doesn't get to choose where he goes assuming someone bids on him at all

BGMaverick9 · 07-18-2013, 08:10 PM

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He doesn't get to choose where he goes assuming someone bids on him at all

He could have scared people off by telling them he wasn't going to report.

Five-ofan · 07-18-2013, 08:23 PM

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He could have scared people off by telling them he wasn't going to report.

Then you are out nothing and you keep him off another contender

BGMaverick9 · 07-18-2013, 08:31 PM

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Then you are out nothing and you keep him off another contender

That wouldn't be nothing. That would be cap space lost.

Five-ofan · 07-18-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

That wouldn't be nothing. That would be cap space lost.

Not if he doesn't report.

Skywalker · 07-19-2013, 08:27 AM

So I just read an article from ESPN Brazil saying the Mavs made an offer to Barbosa....that makes literally 0 sense to me.

EDIT: heres the link if anyone wants to translate it, but it basically says his brother (whos his agent) told them about it: http://www.espn.com.br/noticia/34337...llas-mavericks

Melonhead · 07-19-2013, 09:32 AM

Barbosa? I might throw up

LionDallas · 07-19-2013, 10:48 AM

wtf Barbosa?

Please no!

Budapest Maverick · 07-19-2013, 11:35 AM

Barbosa was a very promising player in his early years, he had 4-5 very good, efficient seasons in a row. Problem is, he was a shadow of his former self in the last 4 seasons. If there is any chance for him to find his form again (he's still only 30!), i wouldn't mind him, especially if he comes for the veteran minimum, or some kind of exception.

LonghornDub · 07-19-2013, 11:37 AM

In a vacuum, I wouldn't complain about Barbosa at the vet min, but I have no idea where he fits on this roster. The Mavs have several rotation-caliber guards, and after those guys, they need to be developing the young backcourt talent.

tap2390 · 07-19-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

We don't have the money to chase Miller - he's only going to take minimum from a surefire contender like OKC or San Antonio.

Yup. Besides we need to start developing some guys internally and that means giving Crowder as many minutes as he can earn.

rabbitproof · 07-19-2013, 03:48 PM

Barbosa would mean no Devin. They would be playing the same role.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-19-2013, 04:16 PM

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Barbosa would mean no Devin. They would be playing the same role.

Perhaps a patch job until Devin gets healthy?

rabbitproof · 07-19-2013, 04:19 PM

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Perhaps a patch job until Devin gets healthy?

Perhaps. I think Barbosa has fallen off to the point where it's not a given he gets a guaranteed deal.

grndmstr_c · 07-19-2013, 04:19 PM

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Perhaps a patch job until Devin gets healthy?

Probably a backup plan in case things don't work out with Devin. That's if there's any truth to the rumor as reported/translated.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-19-2013, 05:06 PM

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Probably a backup plan in case things don't work out with Devin. That's if there's any truth to the rumor as reported/translated.

Well I also saw that rumor of potential interest in Jamaal Tinsley, so I just figured this was a similar-type interest.

yahyes · 07-19-2013, 05:17 PM

Barbosa? All these guard ideas must mean we're going to dump Akognon and Larkin somewhere.

mavs777 · 07-19-2013, 05:37 PM

Here is how the roster looks
Guards: Calderon, Monta, Ellington, Harris, Mekel, Larkin, Ledo (7)
Wings: Marion, Vince, Crowder (10)
Bigs: Dirk, Dalembert, Wright (seems like a lock he comes back), Sarge (be surprised if he wasn't back) (14)

Am I missing anyone? If not I'd like Carmichael to get the 15th spot

yahyes · 07-19-2013, 05:41 PM

Oden?

jasperjj · 07-19-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Here is how the roster looks
Guards: Calderon, Monta, Ellington, Harris, Mekel, Larkin, Ledo (7)
Wings: Marion, Vince, Crowder (10)
Bigs: Dirk, Dalembert, Wright (seems like a lock he comes back), Sarge (be surprised if he wasn't back) (14)

Am I missing anyone? If not I'd like Carmichael to get the 15th spot

tell me about Carmichael please. thanks

grndmstr_c · 07-19-2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Here is how the roster looks
Guards: Calderon, Monta, Ellington, Harris, Mekel, Larkin, Ledo (7)
Wings: Marion, Vince, Crowder (10)
Bigs: Dirk, Dalembert, Wright (seems like a lock he comes back), Sarge (be surprised if he wasn't back) (14)

Am I missing anyone? If not I'd like Carmichael to get the 15th spot

Akognon, though like Sarge his contract isn't guaranteed. And I think there's still some lingering question as to whether the Mavs might have to release Sarge to complete their other deals, though I'm sure that's something they'd rather not do.

mavs777 · 07-19-2013, 05:49 PM

6'9 240, long 7'1 1/2 wingspan, average athlete, good shot blocker and rebounder, decent face up game, max effort guy with a mid range jumper

mavs777 · 07-19-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Akognon, though like Sarge his contract isn't guaranteed. And I think there's still some lingering question as to whether the Mavs might have to release Sarge to complete their other deals, though I'm sure that's something they'd rather not do.

I fully expect akognon to be waived, there is no room for him.

grndmstr_c · 07-19-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I fully expect akognon to be waived, there is no room for him.

Just pointing out that he's under contract. Don't disagree, though; about him likely being left off the final roster, or about Carmichael being worth at least a camp invite.

jasperjj · 07-19-2013, 10:14 PM

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6'9 240, long 7'1 1/2 wingspan, average athlete, good shot blocker and rebounder, decent face up game, max effort guy with a mid range jumper

thanks. I saw his name on the summer league thread. where did we get him?

dirt_dobber · 07-20-2013, 01:19 PM

Mavs forced to waive Bernard James
By Marc Stein and Bryan Gutierrez | ESPN.com

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/...-bernard-james

The Dallas Mavericks were forced to waive second-year center Bernard James on Friday, a move they were hoping to avoid, according to sources with knowledge of the move.

Earlier in the week, Dallas convinced James to move the July 15 guarantee date in his contract to a later date in the summer, which team officials hoped would buy them the extra time needed to sort out the roster and still have room for his 2013-14 salary of $788,872. The Mavericks, though, reluctantly waived James on Friday when they needed to remove his salary-cap hold from their payroll to formally complete the signing of guard Monta Ellis.

The Mavericks hope to re-sign James later this offseason after he clears waivers. But there is a strong chance James will be claimed by another team, given his solid rookie season as an athletic and developing big man who also carries such a reasonable cap number.

James will stay on waivers for 48 hours, during which time other teams may claim him and assume his contract. If no team has claimed him before the end of the waiver period, James' contract would be terminated and he would become a free agent.

The 6-foot-10 center was the 33rd overall pick out of Florida State and a former staff sergeant in the Air Force with three tours of duty overseas. James, 28, started 11 games for the Mavericks last season and averaged 2.8 points, 2.8 rebounds and 0.8 blocks. His per-36 production as a rookie -- 10.3 points, 10.3 rebounds, 3.0 blocks per game -- suggests his game has potential.

Mavs coach Rick Carlisle said he had hoped James would "dominate" in the Las Vegas Summer League. But James ended up playing just one game there, collecting two points, nine rebounds and three blocks in the team's opener before being waived.

dirt_dobber · 07-20-2013, 01:21 PM

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Mavs coach Rick Carlisle said he had hoped James would "dominate" in the Las Vegas Summer League. But James ended up playing just one game there, collecting two points, nine rebounds and three blocks in the team's opener before being waived.

is this comment subterfuge.

Underdog · 07-20-2013, 01:25 PM

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is this comment subterfuge.

I hope so - if you're the Mavs, you exaggerate that injury as much as possible with the hope that it scares away other teams.

BGMaverick9 · 07-20-2013, 01:40 PM

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I hope so - if you're the Mavs, you exaggerate that injury as much as possible with the hope that it scares away other teams.

what injury?

moogle · 07-20-2013, 01:51 PM

I think waiving Bernard James pretty much guarantees Monta Ellis' contract will be $27M over 3 years. I was hoping it would be closer to $25M, but that the release of Bernard James makes that unlikely.

oilfieldtrash · 07-20-2013, 02:17 PM

Are Donnie and Cuban auditioning for the new Dumb and Dumber movie?
That's 2 draft picks from last year they wasted including Cunningham. This has to be a record for even the mavs for wasting draft picks.

Underdog · 07-20-2013, 02:24 PM

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what injury?

Why did he miss all but one summer league game? I assumed it was an injury...

If not, well, roll with that story anyway!

BGMaverick9 · 07-20-2013, 02:32 PM

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Why did he miss all but one summer league game? I assumed it was an injury...

If not, well, roll with that story anyway!

"Illness" then "personal reasons"
It all lined up with his guarantee deadline

moogle · 07-20-2013, 02:37 PM

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Why did he miss all but one summer league game? I assumed it was an injury...

He missed the summer league games due to "illness" and "personal reasons". However, the timing coincided with the expiration/extension of the deadline to guarantee his 2013 salary. Most likely, he was held out for contractual reasons.

Honestly, I never liked Bernard James anyway. He's a center who stands only 6'8.75" tall (without shoes). He's an inexperienced player who will turn 29 yrs old this season. As a prospect, he has very little upside. Too raw to contribute immediately, too old to be developed patiently. I always assumed the Mavs drafted him only as a marketing gimmick. His army background has always made him very popular with the fan base.

But I can't blame the Mavs for their poor 2012 draft class. Looking back now, there weren't a lot of good players remaining at that 17th spot.