Do you do it? Dal/Phi

[dalmations202]

Dallas trades: PF Danny Fortson (4.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.2 minutes)
PF Antoine Walker (14.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 4.6 apg in 35.3 minutes)
Dallas receives: PF Todd MacCulloch (14.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 4.6 apg in 35.3 minutes)
SG Allen Iverson (26.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 6.8 apg in 42.5 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +8.2 ppg, -9.4 rpg, and +2.0 apg.

Philadelphia trades: PF Todd MacCulloch (14.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 4.6 apg in 35.3 minutes)
SG Allen Iverson (26.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 6.8 apg in 42.5 minutes)
Philadelphia receives: PF Danny Fortson (4.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.2 apg in 55 games)
PF Antoine Walker (14.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 4.6 apg in 74 games)
Change in team outlook: -8.2 ppg, +9.4 rpg, and -2.0 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Do you do it? AI has 5 years left, maxed out. Todd and Danny make about the same. Todd is much more injury prone.

[Nicky31]

This is the only trade I would make with Philly straight up, but I seriously think Dallas would want another team to get involved with trading to Philly for AI...(I personally feel that Dalembert would be a better fit for the Mav's, but I would love to see a tandem of Nash and AI in our backcourt)


Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (14.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 4.6 apg in 35.3 minutes)
SG Michael Finley (18.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.7 minutes)
Dallas receives: SG Allen Iverson (26.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 6.8 apg in 42.5 minutes)
SF Glenn Robinson (16.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.9 minutes)
PF Marc Jackson (9.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.2 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert (7.5 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 25.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +27.1 ppg, +8.0 rpg, and +1.6 apg.

Philadelphia trades: SG Allen Iverson (26.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 6.8 apg in 42.5 minutes)
SF Glenn Robinson (16.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.9 minutes)
PF Marc Jackson (9.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.2 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert (7.5 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 25.6 minutes)
Philadelphia receives: PF Antoine Walker (14.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 4.6 apg in 74 games)
SG Michael Finley (18.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.0 apg in 66 games)
Change in team outlook: -27.1 ppg, -8.0 rpg, and -1.6 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

[Evilmav2]

As much as I personally like Walker on this team (I'm in a tiny minority), I sadly say the Mavs would have to pull the trigger on this one. Putting Nash and Iverson in the same backcourt would form a Nellie small-ball team for the ages.

Whether we could execute this trade, or if we could, whether in fact we could make a better Walker deal instead (say with Chicage, Washington, etc...), are entirely different questions though...

[mavsman55]

Nah. Good thinking behind it, but I'm not such a big Iverson fan. I don't like the way he plays, and I don't think he'd fit on this team. We already have enough offensive fire on this team. From a Philly point of view, though, this works out pretty well. Oh yeah, and why are Walker's stats the same as McCullough's in your post? Anyway, I do think Philly would be a good match for Walker. How about this:

Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (14.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 4.6 apg in 35.3 minutes)
C/F Scott Williams (4.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, .4 apg in 4.9 minutes)
G Travis Best (3.0 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 1.9 apg in 12.9 minutes)
Dallas receives: C Todd MacCullogh (7.1 ppg, 4.7 rpg, .5 apg in 19.3 minutes)
C/F Derrick Coleman (8.0 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.4 apg in 24.8 minutes)
G Eric Snow (10.3 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 6.9 apg in 36.1 minutes)

I would post the change in the team outlook, but it would mean nothing because these players' minutes wouldn't match up

TRADE ACCEPTED
I think Eric Snow could be a great backup for Nash, giving Daniels more time to play the SG/SF position which i think he'd be better at.

[dalmations202]

For the top trade: AI/MacCulloch for Walker/Fortson

Pros of doing the trade from Dallas perspective:
1) talent of AI
2) Get Big man in Todd MacCulloch
Cons :
1) attitude of AI and team issues
2) Todd MacCulloch may never play again because of injuries

Pros for Phi
1) Move AI who is holding their team hostage
2) Get rid of Todd MacCulloch's contract since he is a player that is injury prone and doesn't play
3) Get a player in Walker that is known, and a rebounder in Fortson

Cons for Phi
1) Marketability is shot - AI puts people in seats
2) Fortson has 3 more years on his contract with less upside than MacCulloch
3) Walker is inconsistent

[Nicky31]

Originally posted by: mavsman55
Nah. Good thinking behind it, but I'm not such a big Iverson fan. I don't like the way he plays, and I don't think he'd fit on this team. We already have enough offensive fire on this team. From a Philly point of view, though, this works out pretty well. Oh yeah, and why are Walker's stats the same as McCullough's in your post? Anyway, I do think Philly would be a good match for Walker. How about this:

Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (14.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 4.6 apg in 35.3 minutes)
C/F Scott Williams (4.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, .4 apg in 4.9 minutes)
G Travis Best (3.0 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 1.9 apg in 12.9 minutes)
Dallas receives: C Todd MacCullogh (7.1 ppg, 4.7 rpg, .5 apg in 19.3 minutes)
C/F Derrick Coleman (8.0 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.4 apg in 24.8 minutes)
G Eric Snow (10.3 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 6.9 apg in 36.1 minutes)

I would post the change in the team outlook, but it would mean nothing because these players' minutes wouldn't match up

TRADE ACCEPTED


I think Eric Snow could be a great backup for Nash, giving Daniels more time to play the SG/SF position which i think he'd be better at.

I like your trade mavsman55, but I would take out Coleman for Dalembert. I just don't think Philly will trade with anyone unless Iverson is involved. I have feeling he will be their main focus of trade discussions come next offseason.

[OutletPass]

I'll be playing in the NBA before MacCoulloch will.

[ddh33]

I would do OP's trade in a minute and never look back. I wouldn't do the other ones though.

You trade Walker and Forston for Iverson essentially since Todd's career is probably over. If you could substitute Coleman for Todd, I would like it even more, but I haven't even looked at the salaries or years yet...

The Mavs lose a ton of rebounding and get much smaller. But they get quicker and better too.

Of course, this would put a ton of pressure on the franchise to get a center somehow. But a lot of guys would love to play with AI. In fact, it could really improve the player's perception of this franchise.

I just think that despite his flaws, Iverson is a guy you get if you can. I think most would be surprised at how well things would work out.

[aggiecurt05]

I don't see how you couldn't pull the trigger on this deal (being either of the top two). If we got AI then we would have to trade Finley away, since they play the same position and Iverson is just better at it. On the other hand, I think Iverson plays too good of defense to be on this team and for Nellie to want him. He doesn't fit our style because, while his offense fits in, he certainly tries too hard on both ends of the court to be liked on our team. He might even make Dirk feel guilty for taking naps when he isn't on offense. Enough of the sarcasm, Iverson is one of the top 10 players in the game, and if you can get him and not give up Dirk or Nash, then you do it. This would give us great flexibility in terms of trading for centers, with this trade, we could turn around and go after one of the Chicago guys by offering Finley. On the other hand, I might be wrong, but I would bet Philly would hang up the phone if we offered Walker for AI, they are looking for a McGrady or Bryant for AI I would guess (I don't know that they can get those guys for him)

[Nicky31]

Originally posted by: aggiecurt05
I don't see how you couldn't pull the trigger on this deal (being either of the top two). If we got AI then we would have to trade Finley away, since they play the same position and Iverson is just better at it. On the other hand, I think Iverson plays too good of defense to be on this team and for Nellie to want him. He doesn't fit our style because, while his offense fits in, he certainly tries too hard on both ends of the court to be liked on our team. He might even make Dirk feel guilty for taking naps when he isn't on offense. Enough of the sarcasm, Iverson is one of the top 10 players in the game, and if you can get him and not give up Dirk or Nash, then you do it. This would give us great flexibility in terms of trading for centers, with this trade, we could turn around and go after one of the Chicago guys by offering Finley. On the other hand, I might be wrong, but I would bet Philly would hang up the phone if we offered Walker for AI, they are looking for a McGrady or Bryant for AI I would guess (I don't know that they can get those guys for him)

I agree aggiecurt...that is why I included Finley in my trade. Iverson is going to need 2 things to keep him happy (touches and 35+ minutes of PT) his current average of PT is over 40 minutes per game. In my trade I also included Big dog which is a contract Philly will like to move, and Nellie would love him all offense no defense. I do believe Finley for AI is an upgrade far as talent wise, but I hope that he would be able to have the same chemistry that Finley has with Nash and Nowitzki and thats the real ? with this trade. My favorite player in this trade is Dalembert I feel he is exactly what the Mav's need. This trade would help them because AI would force guys to play man on man defense instead of being lazy and relying on the zone to win games...

[dalmations202]

I don't see the Mavs moving Fin, Dirk, or Nash. IMO

[ddh33]

Why can't Fin play the 3 with Iverson and Nash?

I know that team is small, but it brings a lot of things that Nellie loves like quickness, scoring, etc.

But I don't think any of the Big Three should be moved this summer.

[dalmations202]

Lets play fantasy bball.

Trade #1 is made.
Nash, Daniels resigned
Ostertag comes for the MLE
Chicago trade for Jamison/Delk for Chandler/AD made

Lineup:
Nash, Daniels
AI, Howard
Finley, Najera
Nowitzki, ADavis
Chandler, Ostertag, Bradley

IR: Steppheson, TAW, MacCulloch
Williams retires, Best gone, one spot left open

[kingrex]

I take AI, but only to trade him for a big man. Teams don't usually trade down in size, but a talent like AI may attract enough attention to get it done.

Like Nicky31, I too prefer Dalembert over MacCulloch, but I can't see the Sixers trading him away.

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: kingrex
I take AI, but only to trade him for a big man. Teams don't usually trade down in size, but a talent like AI may attract enough attention to get it done.

Like Nicky31, I too prefer Dalembert over MacCulloch, but I can't see the Sixers trading him away.

Me too, but don't see that as realistic.

[kingrex]

Originally posted by: dalmations202

Me too, but don't see that as realistic.

Which one do you not see as realistic? Trading away AI for a bigman, or the Sixers trading Dalembert?

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: kingrex

Which one do you not see as realistic? Trading away AI for a bigman, or the Sixers trading Dalembert?

Sixers trading Dalembert. AI for the big is possible, depending on the Big. IMO, AI won't get you Yao, Shaq, KG, or TD, but I would think anyone else would be at least a little intrigued.

[mavsman55]

Originally posted by: Nicky31

I like your trade mavsman55, but I would take out Coleman for Dalembert. I just don't think Philly will trade with anyone unless Iverson is involved. I have feeling he will be their main focus of trade discussions come next offseason.

It depends. Maybe, if they realized that backing up Iverson with Walker was a good idea they'd go through with it. Somebody said in another thread (forget who it was) that the reason Iverson's FG% is so crummy is because he has no offensive talent to back him up and he's creating for himself. With a franchise player like A.I. and a backup like Walker, I think they would have a couple more answers on the offensive end. We don't like Walker here because we're not a volume shooting team, but he would be a perfect fit in Philly.

In terms of switching Dalembert with Coleman, my idea was to basically replace Walker with a F/C figure that wouldn't be taking as many shots... Although Dalembert would make one heck of a forward. Either way, I think we would benefit.

[Dirks Cuzin]

Originally posted by: OutletPass
I'll be playing in the NBA before MacCoulloch will.

Id love to see that =-)

[Maverick]

MacCulloch has, "Charcot-Marie-Tooth (CMT) and Chronic Inflammatory Demyelinating Polyradiculo-neuropathy (CIDP), both neurological disorders affecting the peripheral nerves." (http://www.nba.com/sixers/features/m...ch_040402.html)

Any chance of getting MacCulloch would be purely as a trade filler.

How about this DAL/PHI trade.

Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (14.1 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 4.6 apg in 35.1 minutes)
SG Marquis Daniels (6.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.6 apg in 15.1 minutes)
Dallas receives: SF Glenn Robinson (16.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.9 minutes)
PF Marc Jackson (9.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.2 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert (7.6 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 25.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +12.7 ppg, +6.9 rpg, and -3.8 apg.

Philadelphia trades: SF Glenn Robinson (16.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.9 minutes)
PF Marc Jackson (9.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.2 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert (7.6 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 25.9 minutes)
Philadelphia receives: PF Antoine Walker (14.1 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 4.6 apg in 75 games)
SG Marquis Daniels (6.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.6 apg in 49 games)
Change in team outlook: -12.7 ppg, -6.9 rpg, and +3.8 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Philly gets a proven second-option to help AI and Philly papers have suggested interest in Daniels. Dallas gets rid of Robinsons contract after this year and gets an athletic shot-blocker, known solely for defense. Dallas has to give up something good to get something good and Daniels trade value is extremely high right now.

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: Maverick
MacCulloch has, "Charcot-Marie-Tooth (CMT) and Chronic Inflammatory Demyelinating Polyradiculo-neuropathy (CIDP), both neurological disorders affecting the peripheral nerves." (http://www.nba.com/sixers/features/m...ch_040402.html)

Any chance of getting MacCulloch would be purely as a trade filler.

How about this DAL/PHI trade.

Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (14.1 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 4.6 apg in 35.1 minutes)
SG Marquis Daniels (6.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.6 apg in 15.1 minutes)
Dallas receives: SF Glenn Robinson (16.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.9 minutes)
PF Marc Jackson (9.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.2 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert (7.6 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 25.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +12.7 ppg, +6.9 rpg, and -3.8 apg.

Philadelphia trades: SF Glenn Robinson (16.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.9 minutes)
PF Marc Jackson (9.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.2 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert (7.6 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 25.9 minutes)
Philadelphia receives: PF Antoine Walker (14.1 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 4.6 apg in 75 games)
SG Marquis Daniels (6.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.6 apg in 49 games)
Change in team outlook: -12.7 ppg, -6.9 rpg, and +3.8 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Philly gets a proven second-option to help AI and Philly papers have suggested interest in Daniels. Dallas gets rid of Robinsons contract after this year and gets an athletic shot-blocker, known solely for defense. Dallas has to give up something good to get something good and Daniels trade value is extremely high right now.

I think trade filler would have to be added for Philly to include Dalembert.

Philadelphia trades: Todd MacCulloch ( ppg, rpg, apg in minutes)
SF Glenn Robinson (16.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.9 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert (7.7 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 0.2 apg in 26.2 minutes)
Philadelphia receives: PF Antoine Walker (14.1 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 4.5 apg in 35.0 minutes)
PG Tony Delk (6.0 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.8 apg in 15.3 minutes)
SG Marquis Daniels (6.9 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 15.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +2.7 ppg, +0.5 rpg, and +5.4 apg.

Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (14.1 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 4.5 apg in 35.0 minutes)
PG Tony Delk (6.0 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.8 apg in 15.3 minutes)
SG Marquis Daniels (6.9 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 15.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: Todd MacCulloch ( ppg, rpg, apg in games)
SF Glenn Robinson (16.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.4 apg in 42 games)
C Samuel Dalembert (7.7 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 0.2 apg in 77 games)
Change in team outlook: -2.7 ppg, -0.5 rpg, and -5.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

I would think this would be more of a trade from a Philly standpoint. They get Walker, Delk, and Daniels. They get rid of MacCulloch's and Big Dog's contract. They lose a developmental Big, but get a developmental 1-3.

I am not sure I do this from a Dallas perspective, but if I think I can move Robinson, then maybe I do it for the Big. MacCulloch goes straight to the IR with TAW.

[kingrex]

I agree that one needs to trade something to get something, but I'm not convinced Dalembert has as much upside as young Mr. Daniels. Now, I don't claim to be a talent scout, but I think we can still get a big man without giving up Steve Nash's backup.

For example, I like Jamison and Travis Best, but with the emergence of the rookies, they are expendable to this team in the off-season.

[MavsFanatik33]

I might have to back out of this one. With AI on our team, what does that do to Howard, Daniels, and Finley's minutes? Iverson must have a minimum of 35 miutes a night or he is not a happy guy. Also, Iverson must get enough looks or he is also not a happy guy and our team has so many scorers sometimes its redicilous. Unless we somehow lost Nash and Iverson could be point guard it might work, but Iverson at point is not a pretty picture...

[kingrex]

Originally posted by: MavsFanatik33
I might have to back out of this one. With AI on our team, what does that do to Howard, Daniels, and Finley's minutes? Iverson must have a minimum of 35 miutes a night or he is not a happy guy. Also, Iverson must get enough looks or he is also not a happy guy and our team has so many scorers sometimes its redicilous. Unless we somehow lost Nash and Iverson could be point guard it might work, but Iverson at point is not a pretty picture...

I agree. That's why on my intial reply to this thread, I said that the Mavs should only trade for AI if they plan on moving him to another team willing to trade away a comparably capable big man.

[MavsFanatik33]

Originally posted by: kingrex
I agree. That's why on my intial reply to this thread, I said that the Mavs should only trade for AI if they plan on moving him to another team willing to trade away a comparably capable big man.

That's so risky though, would that work?

[kingrex]

Originally posted by: MavsFanatik33

That's so risky though, would that work?

AI has enough star-power cache that a bottomline-type organization like the Clippers for example would be willing to trade away big man talent to get a guy who can sell more tickets.

So, yes there would be some risk involved, but I think it would work.

[dalmations202]

AI has enough star-power cache that a bottomline-type organization like the Clippers for example would be willing to trade away big man talent to get a guy who can sell more tickets.

So, yes there would be some risk involved, but I think it would work.

Would the clippers move Brand for AI??

[kingrex]

Originally posted by: dalmations202

Would the clippers move Brand for AI??

If past Clipper- history follows to form, then I believe they would.

[MavsFanatik33]

Would Brand be the "big guy" we need? That would just give us another PF. I say we trade for a good Pf and a center or something else. Either way, Elton brand was not the guy I had in mind...

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: MavsFanatik33
Would Brand be the "big guy" we need? That would just give us another PF. I say we trade for a good Pf and a center or something else. Either way, Elton brand was not the guy I had in mind...

Brand plays D, averages 11.3 RPG and 2.5 blocks, and he scores 18+. I like his game.

Who did you have in mind, if you traded AI for a BIG ?

[kingrex]

True, Brand is a power forward, but not like any power forward the Mavs have now. He would instantly be the best rebounder on the team and provide a steady post-up option that is somewhat shaky of the power forwards they have now.

He is not the perfect choice, but he would provide the type of game from the 4-position the Mavs have been lacking.

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: kingrex
True, Brand is a power forward, but not like any power forward the Mavs have now. He would instantly be the best rebounder on the team and provide a steady post-up option that is somewhat shaky of the power forwards they have now.

He is not the perfect choice, but he would provide the type of game from the 4-position the Mavs have been lacking.

If you could get Brand here for Walker/Delk in an AI three way...... Would Brand start at 4, and move Dirk to the 5 or 3? Man I like Brand, but the more I think of it, I am not sure where/how he fits. Moving Dirk to the 3 hurts defensively, moving him to the 5 hurts offensively and defensively.

Man, can you see the zone with Bradley, Nowitzki, Brand, Daniels, and Howard. You better shoot over the top.

[kingrex]

Originally posted by: dalmations202

If you could get Brand here for Walker/Delk in an AI three way...... Would Brand start at 4, and move Dirk to the 5 or 3? Man I like Brand, but the more I think of it, I am not sure where/how he fits. Moving Dirk to the 3 hurts defensively, moving him to the 5 hurts offensively and defensively.

Man, can you see the zone with Bradley, Nowitzki, Brand, Daniels, and Howard. You better shoot over the top.

That's a very good point. It is a defensive conundrum, but against most teams I would play Brand against their 5 and Dirk against their 4.

[mavsman55]

Originally posted by: kingrex

That's a very good point. It is a defensive conundrum, but against most teams I would play Brand against their 5 and Dirk against their 4.

Agreed. Brand would make a better center than Walker.

[grndmstr_c]

Would the clippers move Brand for AI??

Here's the real quesion, though. If you were the Sixers, would you rather have Brand, or Toine?

[Nicky31]

Salary wise I would rather have Walker's contract, but why would the Clipper's trade their star player for a SG when they just gave Corey Maggette a max long term deal?

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: Nicky31
Salary wise I would rather have Walker's contract, but why would the Clipper's trade their star player for a SG when they just gave Corey Maggette a max long term deal?

AI is a bigger (marketing) talent and Maggette plays the 3. . ?

[Nicky31]

Originally posted by: dalmations202

AI is a bigger (marketing) talent and Maggette plays the 3. . ?

I understand this is Sterling's team we are discussing, but their first goal by what I'm hearing is to have Kobe Bryant and Elton Brand playing side by side (for those same reasons marketing). I guess I could see the logic of it devolping if they don't land Kobe, but if AI has only once lead a team to the finals in the east (would he think it's eaiser in the west)...


22 Matt Barnes F 6-7 235 3/09/80 UCLA '02 R
42 Elton Brand F 6-8 265 3/11/79 Duke '01 4
1 Keyon Dooling G 6-3 190 5/08/80 Missouri '02 3
14 Predrag Drobnjak C 6-11 272 10/27/75 Serbia-Montenegro 2
2 Melvin Ely F 6-10 261 5/02/78 Fresno State '02 1
5 Eddie House G 6-1 175 5/14/78 Arizona State '00 3
20 Marko Jaric* G 6-5 217 10/12/78 Serbia-Montenegro 1
35 Chris Kaman C 7-0 268 4/28/82 Central Michigan '04 R
9 Randy Livingston G 6-4 209 4/02/75 Louisiana State '98 7
50 Corey Maggette F-G 6-6 228 11/12/79 Duke '02 4
34 Josh Moore* C 7-2 328 11/16/80 Michigan '04 R
24 Doug Overton G 6-3 190 8/03/69 La Salle '91 10
3 Quentin Richardson* G 6-5 238 4/13/80 DePaul '02 3
21 Bobby Simmons G-F 6-6 235 6/02/80 DePaul '02 2
54 Chris Wilcox F 6


I'm sorry I don't watch very many Clipper's games, but on their player info he is listed as F/G... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]

[dalmations202]

If Kobe/Brand is their goal, what are they going to do with Richardson? I think Kobe is an upgrade, but not enough of an upgrade to get them to the finals. Kobe/Maggette/Brand/Kaman is pretty sweet, but they need a PG. Richardson/Maggette/Brand/Kaman isn't bad, but they need a PG as well, and you can see how far it has gotten them this year.

[madape]

I can see the Clips taking Ben Gordon or Devin Harris in the draft. Both those guys can come in and make an immediate impact in the NBA in my opinion.

PG- Gordon
SG - Kobe
SF - Maggette
PF - Brand
C - Kaman

Not quite ready to compete for a title, but I could see them pushing for a playoff birth. That team might not be too bad in a couple of years.