11-28-2011, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c
Hence my interest in Dalembert.
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I'd rather have Kwame than Delambert. At least Kwame looked like a competent player last season. And he had a great finish, particularly in the rebounding department.
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11-28-2011, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by spreedom
I'd rather have Kwame than Delambert. At least Kwame looked like a competent player last season. And he had a great finish, particularly in the rebounding department.
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Last season:
Samuel Dalembert - 8.1 PPG / 8.2 RPG / 1.4 BPG
Kwame Brown - 7.9 PPG / 6.8 RPG / 0.6 BPG
I guess looks can be deceiving...
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11-28-2011, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Last season:
Samuel Dalembert - 8.1 PPG / 8.2 RPG / 1.4 BPG
Kwame Brown - 7.9 PPG / 6.8 RPG / 0.6 BPG
I guess looks can be deceiving...
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Hi Underdog my old friend
Why you talk about Dalembert and Brown?You should talk about Chandler.Because he is our number one...
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11-28-2011, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 41mvp
Hi Underdog my old friend
Why you talk about Dalembert and Brown?You should talk about Chandler.Because he is our number one...
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100% agree that bringing back Chandler is Plan A.
We're just considering a Plan B if he doesn't re-sign with the Mavs.
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11-28-2011, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Last season:
Samuel Dalembert - 8.1 PPG / 8.2 RPG / 1.4 BPG
Kwame Brown - 7.9 PPG / 6.8 RPG / 0.6 BPG
I guess looks can be deceiving...
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I liked what I saw from Kwame a lot more than Dalembert, especially after Next Town Brown got the axe in Charlotte. Kwame played with more fire than Dalembert ever has.
Plus I believe it's already a lock that Dalembert is going to Miami. And he'll probably get a deal worth at least 3-4 times as much as Kwame gets.
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11-28-2011, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by spreedom
I liked what I saw from Kwame a lot more than Dalembert, especially after Next Town Brown got the axe in Charlotte. Kwame played with more fire than Dalembert ever has.
Plus I believe it's already a lock that Dalembert is going to Miami. And he'll probably get a deal worth at least 3-4 times as much as Kwame gets.
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Um, where exactly is Miami going to scrape up the 3-4 times more money than what Kwame is worth to pay Dalembert??
The projected 2011/12 salary cap is about $58mil, Miami already has $65mil in dedicated salaries...
EDIT: also, where did you get the idea that Kwame finished stronger than Dalembert? Looking at their last 8 games (the month of April), Kwame did have a very impressive 23/13 game, but Dalembert had games of 16/18, 17/16, 12/10, 21/15 and 10/12 in that same stretch...
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Last edited by Underdog; 11-28-2011 at 11:32 AM.
Reason: typo
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11-28-2011, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Um, where exactly is Miami going to scrape up the 3-4 times more money than what Kwame is worth to pay Dalembert??
The projected 2011/12 salary cap is about $58mil, Miami already has $65mil in dedicated salaries...
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MLE... I believe Miami will offer the whole thing to Dalembert. And I mean in total contract, not 3-4 times as much per year. I think Kwame gets 1, maybe two years tops, but somebody (Miami, if not them probably Houston) will severely overpay Dalembert.
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EDIT: also, where did you get the idea that Kwame finished stronger than Dalembert? Looking at their last 8 games (the month of April), Kwame did have a very impressive 23/13 game, but Dalembert had games of 16/18, 17/16, 12/10, 21/15 and 10/12 in that same stretch...
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I'm not sure where I said that. I just liked what I saw from Kwame.
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11-28-2011, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spreedom
I'm not sure where I said that. I just liked what I saw from Kwame.
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Originally Posted by spreedom
I'd rather have Kwame than Delambert. At least Kwame looked like a competent player last season. And he had a great finish, particularly in the rebounding department.
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Every way I look at it, Dalembert is a far superior player to Kwame Brown - rebounding, scoring, blocks - full season stats, end of season stats, career stats, the eyeball test... I just don't see how you can make an argument for Kwame over Dalembert unless you're talking from a strictly financial standpoint, in which case you shouldn't even be comparing the two.
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Last edited by Underdog; 11-28-2011 at 12:58 PM.
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11-28-2011, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Post #84...
Every way I look at it, Dalembert is a far superior player to Kwame Brown - rebounding, scoring, blocks - full season stats, end of season stats, career stats, the eyeball test... I just don't see how you can make an argument for Kwame over Dalembert unless you're talking from a strictly financial standpoint, in which case you shouldn't even be comparing the two.
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I have no idea why you'd say that last part, especially considering how strapped we'll be for cap space as we enter free agency. I'd rather look into signing a guy like Kwame for 1yr/$3M than Dalembert at 4yrs/$18-20M. I think that's what each guy will realistically command on the open market, though the Bobcats might overpay for Kwame, considering he had arguably the best season of his career for them last season.
Saying I'd rather have somebody is in no way saying he's a better player. I'm saying I'd take the guy that will bring more value to us. And getting extremely similar production from a guy that plays the same game as Dalembert at a fraction of the price.
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