Could T.O. Become a Cowboy - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

sixeightmkw · 02-24-2006, 02:52 PM

Reports are that Bill Parcels had lunch with Drew Rosenhaugh?, TO's manager today. Could be he is talking about TO, or just another one of Drews clients. Very Interesting. I am torn on this decision. I would like TO here but afraid he would scre up the team. Unless they put something in his contract about that, I wouldn't do it.

capitalcity · 02-24-2006, 03:20 PM

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

u2sarajevo · 02-24-2006, 03:27 PM

If it happens...... I love it. I don't agree with everything he does and he disgusts me mostly. But if he is wearing my colors and winning..... heck I'm all for it.

Wouldn't that be something to have him running to the star and celebrating a touchdown and not having George Teague running out and tackling him, instead having Julius Jones and Drew Bledsoe coming in to high five him?

But if he screwed it up it would seriously tick me off. But I must be honest and say the thought excites me.

alby · 02-24-2006, 04:07 PM

greater the risk
greater the reward

jthig32 · 02-24-2006, 04:24 PM

Just say no to T.O.

ames7 · 02-24-2006, 05:57 PM

Don't do it, Bill!

wescx · 02-24-2006, 06:25 PM

I'm willing to bet that TO is on perfect behavior and puts up absurd number next year.

Then he gets a crazy signing bonus somewhere else and goes nuts again.

Ninkobei · 02-24-2006, 08:24 PM

I'll take that bet Wes. how's 20$ sound? T.O. seems like a lockerroom cancer. look at what he did to the eagles. look at what he did to the niners. I don't want to even think about what he will do to the 'Boys.

MFFL · 02-24-2006, 10:02 PM

I wasn't the biggest Irvin fan in the world but I enjoyed the championships. I hated Haley but enjoyed the championships. I REALLY hated Deion but enjoyed the championships.

Bring it on!

sixeightmkw · 02-24-2006, 10:51 PM

Boy, I am all over breaking sports news. The 10 oclock news is having a report on this. you heard it here first.

alby · 02-25-2006, 12:23 PM

its amazing how Owens is 32 years old, this guy is a beast of an athlete.. did you guys see him dunk the ball in a basketball game a few weeks ago? Not many 32 year olds in the NBA can throw it down like that, let alone a 6'3" NFL player

off topic, did you guys see Larry Allen benching during the ProBowl weekend? If yes, what was he pushing and how many reps did he do?

dirno2000 · 02-25-2006, 04:34 PM

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its amazing how Owens is 32 years old, this guy is a beast of an athlete.. did you guys see him dunk the ball in a basketball game a few weeks ago? Not many 32 year olds in the NBA can throw it down like that, let alone a 6'3" NFL player

As a 33 year old I take execption to that

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Seriously, I'll bet that any 32 year old reciever in the league that could dunk at one time can still dunk.

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off topic, did you guys see Larry Allen benching during the ProBowl weekend? If yes, what was he pushing and how many reps did he do?

It was a contest to see who could do the most reps at 225 in 30 seconds and LA did about 43.

To put that in perspective, the next closest contestant did 33 and Leroy Glover won the contest last year with 32.

Ninkobei · 02-25-2006, 04:48 PM

it's going to be a sad, sad day in dallas when Mr. Allen retires. I don't believe we'll ever find another lineman like him.

jayC · 02-25-2006, 11:46 PM

Offensive line was a need not necessarily wide receiver. I would sign TO to an incentive laden deal.

Murphy3 · 02-26-2006, 11:33 AM

I'm amazed at how much shit Allen has caught from the local media.... All they've done is take shots at the guy for the last 3 years.. Bill Parcells comes in and bad mouths him and all of a sudden it just ballooned in the media. I hope that when he retires, he gives Dallas the bird and never has a thing to do with the city again.

dude1394 · 02-26-2006, 12:12 PM

It looked like Allen needed a kick in the butt however. The media is another story, they are like little children just spouting whatever they hear without stopping to think at all.

I would imagine that Allen probably likes Parcells quite a bit. Now Parcells is going to have to give a certain biscuit a little attention as he seems to be riding on his laurels a little bit.

With respect to TO, I probably have said forget it, but it looks like parcells will either kill him or cure him. If he can be had without going nutty dollars wise I think I do it.

Our receivers are pretty pedestrian.

Dtownsfinest · 02-26-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

It looked like Allen needed a kick in the butt however. The media is another story, they are like little children just spouting whatever they hear without stopping to think at all.

I would imagine that Allen probably likes Parcells quite a bit. Now Parcells is going to have to give a certain biscuit a little attention as he seems to be riding on his laurels a little bit.

With respect to TO, I probably have said forget it, but it looks like parcells will either kill him or cure him. If he can be had without going nutty dollars wise I think I do it.

Our receivers are pretty pedestrian.

Michael Irvin made a comment about our reciever core that stuck with me but I agreed with 100%. We have a bunch of #2's but no #1. TO is a #1. A difference maker. I have enough faith in this organization to believe that TO can't destroy this franchise.

Drbio · 02-27-2006, 12:50 AM

Back to original post in this thread....I've seen no reports of a lunch or of TO being on the Cowboy radar over the past week or two. Was this pure specualtion yet again?

sixeightmkw · 02-27-2006, 10:09 AM

no, this actually happened, it was on ESPN, the Ticket, ESPN raido. It happened at the Combin up un Indy, not here in town. And remember like I said at the top, he met with Drew, and Drew has more than one client.

Drbio · 02-27-2006, 10:12 AM

Thanks 6-8. Just wondering.....

jayC · 03-01-2006, 11:33 AM

The biggest problem with the Cowboys was a lack of running game. This year's draft is so deep that last year's number one might not have been a first round pick. I hope Adams can stay healthy for an entire season. Reggie Mcneal ran a 4.4 at the combine, and he is willing to change positions. He might be a good second or third round pick.

Vince Young on the wonderlick yuck. However he was 30-2 as a starter and the Trojans have fifteen NFL draft picks.

Murphy3 · 03-01-2006, 12:36 PM

Allen might have needed a kick in the butt once upon a time...but, it has been relentless from the media ever since...

jayC · 03-01-2006, 02:36 PM

Any news on T.O.??

SportsNation Chris Mortensen: No, it's quiet and he's one of the guys probably hurt by a lack of CBA extension. He probably will be released next week or perhaps even in the next 24 hours.

sixeightmkw · 03-14-2006, 11:36 AM

Lots of talk now on the Ticket abouthim becoming a Cowboy lately. No actual reports or anything but alot of discussing whether he would be good or bad.
I think he has learned a lesson and would be a good boy now, but they would have to do alot to protect themselves contract wise.

Drbio · 03-14-2006, 01:52 PM

Prepare yourselves....it's looking like this is picking up steam.

jthig32 · 03-14-2006, 02:07 PM

I just caught the last half of a segment of BaD talking about this, and Bob kept mentioning news out of Valley Ranch that Keyshawn might actually get cut today. I haven't found anything about this anywhere else, but if that is true, I'd completely change my mind. If Key is gone, it sure as hell better be T.O. coming in.

edit to add: Could anyone that caught the whole segment fill me in? Was he simply referencing the roster bonus and Keyshawn discussing his contract, or is there an actual rumor about him being cut?

Dirkenstien · 03-14-2006, 02:18 PM

Could Keyshawn and Terrell Owens co-exist? ...Nah

But imagine the possibilities

chumdawg · 03-14-2006, 02:33 PM

JT, they were just speculating. No solid rumors.

Dtownsfinest · 03-14-2006, 03:01 PM

There's a lot of speculation about Keyshawn going to be cut by the Cowboys. What plans do the Cowboys have to fill his spot? A #1 reciever? TO?

jthig32 · 03-14-2006, 03:55 PM

Jimmy just reported in the ticker that word out of Valley Ranch (Mickey) is that Keyshawn is going to be released before 3:00 pm today....

edit to add: This better be a precursor to something big. There is NOTHING in the FA market that excites me other than T.O., and I'm so iffy on T.O......Ugg

Murphy3 · 03-14-2006, 04:06 PM

Yeah, even with the addition of TO, the Cowboys haven't gotten any better in free agency. They've gotten worse at guard, about the same at LB, and better at WR (if KJ gets cut and TO is signed)..
They're supposed to try to make the team better...not make moves that take the team laterally on the whole.

jthig32 · 03-14-2006, 04:10 PM

If they're worse at guard they're marginally worse, IMO.

But, in general, I agree with you. As Greggo just stated, losing Dat, Dan Cambell, Laroi, and Keyshawn is losing four big time locker room guys, which would seem to be what you need if T.O. is coming here.

Put me down as concerned...

Dtownsfinest · 03-14-2006, 04:25 PM

Cuts will still occur. Especially after the draft and don't forget that yea there is the draft. Cowboys can fill needs there as well. The Cowboys have to have some sort of plans regarding TO. There's no big time recievers out there but TO.

dirno2000 · 03-14-2006, 04:30 PM

They're better at linebacker. Fujita was physically dominated on a fairly regular basis.

TO improves your offense tremendously. I like Keyshawn but compare TD's over the past few years. We haven't had a playmaker since Mike went down in Philly...I'm tired of watching 13-10 games.

Unless Ferguson goes down I'm not worried about losing Glover. The defense will improve because of Ware, Canty, Spears and maybe even Pepper Johnson and Burnett.

madape · 03-14-2006, 04:31 PM

T.O. will make this offense one of the best in the league. He can make any QB and any O-line look good.

We can fill in some quick LBs, and our defense will be fine.

Dtownsfinest · 03-14-2006, 04:36 PM

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T.O. will make this offense one of the best in the league. He can make any QB and any O-line look good.

Well Bledsoe isn't just any quarterback. When he's in the pocket he's stuck in cement. I'm not sure Owens can fix that. The o-line definately needs to be fixed in this offseason. It has some ways to go to just be above average and that's what I think Bledsoe needs to be standing behind. A above average o-line.

jthig32 · 03-14-2006, 04:40 PM

So are we just assuming that T.O. is in the bag if we're releasing Keyshawn? I mean, it makes sense, but is there any possibility we did this without having T.O. pretty much in hand?

Murphy3 · 03-14-2006, 06:01 PM

The good thing, ape, is that he doesn't have to make Bledsoe look good. Bledsoe does a pretty damn good job of that himself. However, Bledsoe, like any QB, needs a decent line. The Cowboys have taken a step backwards so far at guard if Allen is cut. Yes, they'll be better because Adams is back at tackle, but let's hope they do something to help out at the other tackle position.

MFFL · 03-14-2006, 09:45 PM

Keyshawn not surprised by release

05:16 PM CST on Tuesday, March 14, 2006
By TODD ARCHER / Staff Writer

Keyshawn Johnson will no longer be a Cowboy.

The Cowboys opted not to pay the veteran receiver a $1 million roster bonus and will release him, saving $1.5 million against the 2006 salary cap.

The Cowboys had until 3 p.m. Tuesday to pay Johnson the bonus, but decided to cut loose their leading receiver the previous two seasons. In two years with the Cowboys, Johnson caught 141 passes for 1,820 yards and 12 touchdowns.

"I’m not really surprised," Johnson said. "Sports is a business and a team has to do what’s right for it. I’m a little excited about the prospect of being a free agent for the first time in my career, but I owe it to the Dallas Cowboys to give them a chance to re-sign me once I hit the market.

For the second straight day, the Cowboys lost a player to free agency when tight end Dan Campbell signed a five-year contract with Detroit. Linebacker Scott Fujita signed with New Orleans on Monday.

The Cowboys surprisingly made little effort to keep Campbell, their offensive captain in 2005. He visited the Jets Monday before going to the Lions.

Campbell is considered one of the best blocking tight ends in the NFL. In 35 games with the Cowbooys, Campbell caught 25 passes for 235 yards and two touchdowns.

Johnson was entering the final year of his contract and was seeking a raise. The Cowboys did not want to invest big money into Johnson, 33. He is also coming off his second knee surgery in as many years.

The release is sure to set off even more speculation that the Cowboys will get in the market for Terrell Owens, who was cut by Philadelphia on Tuesday.

Johnson came to the Cowboys in a trade with Tampa Bay for Joey Galloway in 2004 after he was deactivated by Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden for the final six games of the 2003 season.

With the Cowboys, Johnson caused no trouble, showing only his fiery personality last season in an exchange with quarterback Drew Bledsoe after a fumble.

“I’m bummed to see Keyshawn go,” Bledsoe said. “I got along well with him and came to really respect him as a player. I’m disappointed to see him go. He made a lot of plays for me and for the team.”

While Johnson is one of coach Bill Parcells favorite players, this is the second time Parcells has had a hand in his departure from a team. In 2000, as the New York Jets general manager, Parcells traded Johnson to Tampa Bay.

“Keyshawn is one of a handful of the top competitors that have ever played for the Dallas Cowboys," Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said in a news release. “The more he was a part of our team, the more we appreciated him as a player.”

Drbio · 03-14-2006, 11:04 PM

A lot of early prognosticators think the Cowboys could re-sign him.