02-27-2009, 12:14 PM
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Should/Can the Mavs trade for a HIGH pick
There was an article on ESPN or Hoopshype just recently talking about teams that could do this summer. The Mavs were included in that. The two team that didnt make any moves and seem to be in trouble financially are the Bucks and Washington. Both will probably have a high pick, but they don't want to take on that kind of money.
Sooo should the Mavs trade for one of these picks, let say by sending Stack out. This is what the article was suggesting.
OR would it be better to try to get one of the current player of these teams like Redd or Butler or another such player.
IMO we should go for the picks because these teams are in trouble, but they also have high picks. We can get current players from other teams that are in trouble but dont have picks. There are a few of those out there as well.
Any thoughts????
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02-27-2009, 12:25 PM
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Its going to be a weak draft. If the trade involves Josh Howard whoever we trade with is going to get the better end of the deal. A lot of projects in this years draft. If there's a way to get Blake Griffin though you'd have to be all over it.
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02-27-2009, 12:31 PM
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I think that article was talking mainly about getting rid of Stack and not much else for a pick. And Washington will def. have a top 5 pick so that would be worth it. But if we trade Josh I would do ti for a current player like Butler or some package from the Bucks.
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"It feels disrespectful when you watch these shows, TNT, ESPN, and they're talking, 'Walk through the Mavericks, that's who you want to play," Terry said. "OK. We'll see if that's who you want to play."
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02-27-2009, 01:03 PM
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Ugh, i don't feel like drafting a youngun. Dirk's window is short with this team, if we're gonna win with him, it has to be with someone whose been in the league a few years, not a rookie.
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02-27-2009, 02:42 PM
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Oh if its Stack than by all means do it. Trade Stack for any pick in the 1st round. But we hear every year teams want to get out of the lottery and it just makes no sense to me. How do you rebuild without drafting young talent? Blazers are a prime example.
And I don't see anything wrong with getting young talent in here. Its better to do it now while we're still contending than to be forced to rebuild like the Kings are doing right now.
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02-27-2009, 03:58 PM
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I'd take a top 5 pick, if there's an attacking guard available
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02-27-2009, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Just211
I'd take a top 5 pick, if there's an attacking guard available
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02-27-2009, 05:35 PM
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Oh if its Stack than by all means do it. Trade Stack for any pick in the 1st round. But we hear every year teams want to get out of the lottery and it just makes no sense to me. How do you rebuild without drafting young talent? Blazers are a prime example.
And I don't see anything wrong with getting young talent in here. Its better to do it now while we're still contending than to be forced to rebuild like the Kings are doing right now.
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The thing is teams like Bucks and Wash already have talent. They just cant get it together because of injuries and other stuff. And taking on more money with a high pick is not necessary in their minds
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"It feels disrespectful when you watch these shows, TNT, ESPN, and they're talking, 'Walk through the Mavericks, that's who you want to play," Terry said. "OK. We'll see if that's who you want to play."
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02-27-2009, 06:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ghazi
Ugh, i don't feel like drafting a youngun. Dirk's window is short with this team, if we're gonna win with him, it has to be with someone whose been in the league a few years, not a rookie.
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I think Dirk even mentioned something about this in that interview.. how he doesn't expect the front office to do any sort of rebuilding/youth movement while he's still there.
but if we're refusing to trade Stack for a current solid NBA player, we might as well trade him for a pick if possible.
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02-28-2009, 01:00 AM
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Donnie mentioned on DFW Sports Beat on FSN with Brady Tinker the other day that if there was a no brainer trade that will significantly make the Mavericks a better team, affecting the salary for their 2010 plans wouldn't be issue. They will only make a move if it's a no brainer or will significantly make them better and not marginally better (Kaman is out for another 10 games or so and Baron Davis doesn't make them significantly better; Marcus Camby can't score in the low post).
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03-01-2009, 06:34 PM
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I think part of the problem with the mavs has been their unwillingness to draft and trust younger players. There's a reason why we're so old and slow. The Spurs - the prototype for managing your salary and building a solid team - draft ridiculously well. Last year, they got George Hill with the 26th pick and are playing him this year. With just an early second rounder, we could have had Mario Chalmers to add depth to the back court.
The 6-10 players last year were Gallinari, Eric Gordon, Joe Alexander, D. J. Augustin, and Brook Lopez. I don't see any reason we wouldn't want any of those players, especially Gordon, Augustin, and Lopez.
Even with the 6-10 picks in this year's draft you could get a center project like Hasheem Thabeet or a guard to add scoring off the bench in Willie Warren or Stephen Curry. They may not be superstars, but they'll all be able to play minutes in their first year and can give you a solid player locked into a relatively cheap 4 your contract.
Also, part of the reason we may not have made trades, is that we haven't had young talent to include in any deals. There is no reason not to stockpile young talent. If we can get any pick with Stack or any other non-rotation player, we should.
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03-26-2009, 10:22 AM
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With Curry playing the point this year for Davidson, averaging nearly 30 pts and 6 assists, I wouldn't mind seeing the Mavs nab him if they could grab a pick in the 6-10 range. He could be our PG of the future.
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03-26-2009, 10:34 AM
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Love Curry, but honestly see him as the next Terry. He doesn't have the size for the second part of the PG equation, defense. With that said I would love to have him on this team.
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03-26-2009, 10:36 AM
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No on curry
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03-26-2009, 10:43 AM
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No on curry
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What's you opinion on alrich? I think he could be a solid piece to our puzzle and its eaier to find an attacking guard then a center who can play.
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03-26-2009, 10:55 AM
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I think Harden is going to drop after his noshow in the tourney. He's the twoguard of our future if we want him to be.
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03-26-2009, 11:43 AM
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Why do the Mavs want a high pick?
Who/what position are they looking for?
Is that person available?
They can buy a high pick for cash, if they can find the partner. Cash, Stack for a long contract and the pick wouldn't necessarily work, IMO, from the Mavs perspective.
Could they? YES
Stack straight up for the Pick -- Nope -- unless that team could take on Stacks contract under the salary cap.
Stacks contract for Junk and the pick -- yes -- but then Dallas has the junk as well.
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03-27-2009, 06:23 PM
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Let's trade old Stackhouse for the... "old" Stackhouse.
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03-28-2009, 10:33 AM
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Quote:
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Love Curry, but honestly see him as the next Terry. He doesn't have the size for the second part of the PG equation, defense. With that said I would love to have him on this team.
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I have no issues with another Terry. He's been our second-best, and most consistent, offensive player this year.
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03-30-2009, 07:31 AM
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I have no problem with Terry either, but we already have him loacked up for several years, would do us no good to have to identical players.
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03-30-2009, 02:54 PM
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So who should we get from our expiring contracts and salary caps?, if we could retain Kidd, Dirk and Terry.. Is it enough to get star caliber players and exemplary rookies that would fill positions like a shooting guard, a point guard and a center?
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03-30-2009, 08:03 PM
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If you're going to start trading for picks, then I really think you need to trade Dirk.
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