Jazz Vs Rockets first round series

[Dirkadirkastan]

I know this technically doesn't matter but...

I thought the official seeding rules said that the three division winners all get top four seeds, regardless of record. Of course, this wouldn't help Utah right now because Houston's better record still takes home court. But I thought we'd see a "4" next to Utah and "5" next to Houston either way.

But now the NBA website lists Houston as the official #4 seed. Am I missing something?

[And1]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

When scoreboarding the super awesome Utah Jazz is the coolest thing you can do.... I dont know... kind of sad.

seems like some of you are doing the same with the warriors

http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=27384

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by And1

seems like some of you are doing the same with the warriors

http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=27384

On the contrary, I think as a whole we're giving the Warriors too much respect. Not scoreboarding them.

[And1]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Houston is 6-4 over the last 10, which isn't all that great. If you had caught them a couple of games ago you could also say that they were on a losing streak of their own, losing to the Utah Jazz, the Warriors and the Trailblazers.

Rockets also are 1-2 so far against the Jazz and are notorious for their ability to blow a good season with an awful first-round series.

First of all yes, these are explanations/excuses so sthu.
They are losing with their full squad, minus ak47 recently.

On the roxs 3 game skid: Portland loss: Tmac/Yao DNP
Warriors loss: Mutombo DNP(yes that matters)
Jizz 3pt loss: Luther head(who is cold blooded from the 3)DNP
http://www.nba.com/statistics/player...-1&sortOrder=4

Jizz 4 game slide: Warriors loss/Seattle loss: AK47 out
Portland/SAC: NO DNPs of significance

They lost a 22 pt lead to lose to the sonics in the 4th Q. They(seattle supercolonics) tried to do that with the Roxs and we beat them down. Their center Collison had a gang tackle on Yao Ming that would have made Mario Williams proud.
http://china.nba.com/200704houvideo/82575.html

Watch what happens to Portland when we play them on Wed. without any significant DNPs.


They took Dallas to 7 games 2 yrs ago, nobody expected that series to go more than 5 games. So, this yr nobody expects much and they will deliver in the postseason. How far, who knows. But the Jizz, not worried about them.

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by And1

But the Jizz, not worried about them.[/COLOR]

jizz.....i've got the sense of humor of an 8th grader, and yet somehow i've missed this one.

the nba is gonna have a rocket-jizz series.

[And1]

Originally Posted by alexamenos

jizz.....i've got the sense of humor of an 8th grader, and yet somehow i've missed this one.

the nba is gonna have a rocket-jizz series.

I just started calling them this recently. But I know I did not coin it.

Control F: Jizz here:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3D10%26hl%3Den

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

I know this technically doesn't matter but...

I thought the official seeding rules said that the three division winners all get top four seeds, regardless of record. Of course, this wouldn't help Utah right now because Houston's better record still takes home court. But I thought we'd see a "4" next to Utah and "5" next to Houston either way.

But now the NBA website lists Houston as the official #4 seed. Am I missing something?

i just looked at the nba site and it shows houston in the 5 spot.

incidentally....I like the nba's seeding system, but I think the nba should give the higher seeded team the home court in at least the first round. A team wins its divisiion--it gets home court. A team can't finish in the top two of its division--it's going on the road. voila, divisions mean something.

cheers

[kingmalaki]

Originally Posted by alexamenos

i just looked at the nba site and it shows houston in the 5 spot.

incidentally....I like the nba's seeding system, but I think the nba should give the higher seeded team the home court in at least the first round. A team wins its divisiion--it gets home court. A team can't finish in the top two of its division--it's going on the road. voila, divisions mean something.

cheers

The seeding isn't as important as who won more games. Teams play enough games against teams from other divisions in their conference as to where what division you are in isn't as important...as far as saying team X played in the Pacific and had it rougher. This isn't true for conference play though. Whoever has the best record should always have homecourt.

I think this will be a good series as both teams are strong in the weak areas of the other team. They have us beat at the PG and PF spots, which will make it difficult, but they don't really have that one person to give the ball to in crunch time when things break down....that stabilizer to go to when you just need a bucket.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by alexamenos

i just looked at the nba site and it shows houston in the 5 spot.

I guess they fired that intern then.

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by kingmalaki

Whoever has the best record should always have homecourt.

....i disagree, obviously.

cheers

[alexamenos]

what's up with bonzi??? Sounds like the dude is pulling a Leon Smith.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2831367

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SEATTLE -- Bonzi Wells' trying first season with the Houston Rockets took a strange turn on Monday night when the veteran guard didn't join his team for their game against the Seattle SuperSonics, a 95-90 victory.

Wells was not with the team during their walkthrough on Monday morning and wasn't in the arena before the game, coach Jeff Van Gundy said. Wells left a voice message for Rockets' athletic trainer Keith Jones saying he felt he was disrupting the chemistry of the team, and Van Gundy was unable to get in touch with Wells.

"He's not here tonight. I don't know where he's at. I haven't talked to him," Van Gundy said. "I want to make sure he's safe first."

On the message, Wells told Jones he was fine and intended on staying in his room. That was before the Rockets' walkthrough and Jones had not spoken with him since.

"Once I know he's all right, then we'll take whatever the next step is," Van Gundy said. "We want to make sure he's all right first."

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[nikeball]

whichever team is healthier will win the series.

[kingmalaki]

Originally Posted by alexamenos

....i disagree, obviously.

cheers

So what if the Division sucks donkey-balls? The team that wins that division should be rewarded with homecourt over say, the team playing in the Division with arguably the two best teams in basketball (Dallas and SA)?

I don't know what the hell is wrong with Bonzi. I usually think JVG is a stubborn ass but I am 100% behind him this time. he has given Wells chance after chance after chance.......

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by kingmalaki

So what if the Division sucks donkey-balls? The team that wins that division should be rewarded with homecourt over say, the team playing in the Division with arguably the two best teams in basketball (Dallas and SA)?

yeah...and recall that last year that the Grizz had the 4th best record in the West -- I'm not just picking on the rockets here.

the point is that if the NBA is going to have 3 divisions in each conference (which it does), winning the division ought to count for something. Giving a division winner the 4th seed means nothing if that team doesn't get HCA over the 5th seed...ie, what's the difference for Utah if they're seeded 4th or 5th if the Rockets have HCA in the first round? There is no difference...none, nada, zilch.

So are the Rockets getting screwed by having a better record over the Jazz but no HCA in the first round? Yeah, but only if we agree that winning a division doesn't mean anything. If the winning the division means something I think it's fair to say that teams that place no higher than 3rd in their division should just be grateful to be in the tourney.

incidentally...I think the NBA would be wise to make schedules a little more division oriented -- say 6 games against each of the division foes. I think it'd go a long way in increasing the intensity of the regular season (by building rivaliries).

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

I guess they fired that intern then.

Stupid intern is back.

Now they're saying not only Houston is #4, but they're also saying Cleveland is #3 in the East.

[chumdawg]

The Rockets will have the home court if they have the better record. Nothing has changed along these lines.

[And1]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

The Rockets will have the home court.

Plus one.

Roxs have HCA.

[Dirkadirkastan]

If T-mac doesn't win this first round series, then he never will.

[TheBlueVan]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

If T-mac doesn't win this first round series, then he never will.

Sweet Moses's Ghost that would be delicious

[And1]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

If T-mac doesn't win this first round series, then he never will.

it takes 5, are you a fool.

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Gotta admit that was prime, And1. Nice work.

But yeah, the pressure's on, Tracy! You got HCA, an opponent that's backsliding in and an All-Star sidekick who's coming back into form. The set is prepped, the lights are on and the camera is rolling. Show us something, Trace-man.

thanks..and yes tmac has perform and help the roxs win this series, from there..who knows.

[rabbitproof]

Gotta admit that was prime, And1. Nice work.

But yeah, the pressure's on, Tracy! You got HCA, an opponent that's backsliding in and an All-Star sidekick who's coming back into form. The set is prepped, the lights are on and the camera is rolling. Show us something, Trace-man.

[nowhereman]

Has T-Mac already started talking about how great it is to win a series? Or is he going to save that gem for midway through the series?

[chumdawg]

For all the talk about TMac never getting out of the first round, it remains true that this is the first time his team has had the home court in the first round. He is finally in position to get out of the first round...and I fully expect that he will.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

For all the talk about TMac never getting out of the first round, it remains true that this is the first time his team has had the home court in the first round. He is finally in position to get out of the first round...and I fully expect that he will.

And this is why I said if he doesn't do it now, he never will. It's all but being handed to him right now.

[dirt_dobber]

I think people are overlooking the Jazz in this series. They are very balanced, athletic
and create huge match up problems for the Rockets. I don't see who on the Rockets
can keep the Jazz guard Deron W. in check, The very quick front line of the Jazz will
cause all kinds of problems for the Rockets. The Jazz are a very physical team and
Sloan will out coach Van Gumby.

[TripleDipping]

Somehow I think Utah is gonna win the series. Call it a hunch or whatever.

[rabbitproof]

I'll pushing Houston because they got good guys. The peoples in Utah are just dirty (Sloan) or shady (Booze).

Plus, it'll make for a more interesting 2nd-round match-up.

[u2sarajevo]

Houston will win this series. If they don't I will change my avatar to a girl ballerina in a pink tu-tu (after the Mavs season is over and only for a month).

But I'm confident you won't be seeing any tu-tu's.

[Flacolaco]

Golden State, Houston, San Antonio, Pistons.

Book it.

[u2sarajevo]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

Golden State, Houston, San Antonio, Pistons.

Book it.

????

I assume Pistons was meant to be Phoenix and you are predicting the 1st round wins?

So you don't have faith in the Mavericks?

[Windmill360]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

[We will play] Golden State, Houston, San Antonio, Pistons.

Book it.

I thnk is what he meant.

[u2sarajevo]

OH... thanks Windmill.

I thought his negativity was coming out prematurely again.

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by u2sarajevo

OH... thanks Windmill.

I thought his negativity was coming out prematurely again.

Come on u2....I have faith in Avery.

Dave Tippet however, gives me cancer when I watch his team play.

[paintingshade]

I really hope we get a rematch in the second round. I do believe that the mavs will probably win but I just wanna watch a series as exciting as the 04-05 one (minus that hicup at the end)

[And1]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

Golden State, Houston, San Antonio, Pistons.

Book it.

I hope GS wins tonight b/c Nellie vs. Avery ie gsws vs mavs will be very exciting.

[nashtymavsfan13]

Good game so far, who are you guys rooting for? Who would be the harder matchup for us?

[some-dude]

Utah looks really strong right now.

[some-dude]

Deron Williams may very well get his first career triple double in this game.

8 Points, 6 Assists, 8 Boards at half.

[Tokey41]

Go Jazz.

[rakesh.s]

i like mcgrady but he gagged in the first half...

If derek fisher keeps playing the way he is right now, houston doesn't have a chance in this series.