Now what?

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Amarelooms

Rental one year. His contract up. We likely not good enough this coming year. Need be able shed salary so can get free agents.

Not even for a one year rental. Hard pass. And the Mavericks have never, ever, ever been a free agent destination. FFS, we can't even keep OUR OWN free agents. So deliberately blowing up our locker room to gamble in free agency is not a good plan.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Not even for a one year rental. Hard pass. And the Mavericks have never, ever, ever been a free agent destination. FFS, we can't even keep OUR OWN free agents. So deliberately blowing up our locker room to gamble in free agency is not a good plan.

I mean are we really considering Tim Hardaway Jr as "blowing it up"?

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I mean are we really considering Tim Hardaway Jr as "blowing it up"?

Losing THJ? No. Adding Westbrook? Yes. The dude is fucking cancer.

I consider that basically punting an entire season- sacrificing an entire year of Luka's career in the (ridiculous) hope that we can attract free agents in the future- because you know, the Mavs have such a great track record attracting free agents.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Losing THJ? No. Adding Westbrook? Yes. The dude is fucking cancer.

I consider that basically punting an entire season- sacrificing an entire year of Luka's career in the (ridiculous) hope that we can attract free agents in the future- because you know, the Mavs have such a great track record attracting free agents.

Well I mean we can't blame Nico and co. for this teams past sins because they weren't here for it. So we really don't know that this group can't bring in free agents.

But let's not kid ourselves here. Free agents go where the money is and where the relationship is. We've failed in the past because Dirk was our superstar and he wasn't in the "in" with the best players in the league. And Luka may be in the same boat but the Nico hiring was suppose to even things out a bit in regards to player relationship.

I'm not a big Westbrook fan myself...but if you're telling me for Powell and Hardway I could get Westbrook? I'd do it. But its more about trusting in Kidd than it is Westbrook. In regards to our talk earlier about Dragic...I think Westbrook actually offers some things in rebounding and defense and the ability to attack the paint that we don't have. He's getting the blame for the Lakers lack of success last year but it really wasn't his fault. He keeps getting in these piss poor situations with teams and now he has the reputation of a cancer.....

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Well I mean we can't blame Nico and co. for this teams past sins because they weren't here for it. So we really don't know that this group can't bring in free agents.

But let's not kid ourselves here. Free agents go where the money is and where the relationship is. We've failed in the past because Dirk was our superstar and he wasn't in the "in" with the best players in the league. And Luka may be in the same boat but the Nico hiring was suppose to even things out a bit in regards to player relationship.

I don't think it's any of those things. I think it's just the simple fact that there are three cities in all of America that NBA players actually want to go do, and Dallas isn't one of them. New York, LA, and Miami. I suppose you could add San Francisco/bay area to that list now because the Warriors are the glamor team of the current era. But that's it. No owner, GM, coach, or star player will ever change that.

I'm not a big Westbrook fan myself...but if you're telling me for Powell and Hardway I could get Westbrook? I'd do it. But its more about trusting in Kidd than it is Westbrook. In regards to our talk earlier about Dragic...I think Westbrook actually offers some things in rebounding and defense and the ability to attack the paint that we don't have. He's getting the blame for the Lakers lack of success last year but it really wasn't his fault. He keeps getting in these piss poor situations with teams and now he has the reputation of a cancer.....

I dunno, I'll admit that I didn't watch that much of the Lakers last year, but I've watched most of his career, and the guy just doesn't get it. I'd rather take my chances with Dragic and whatever else we can find on the scrap heap.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

I don't think it's any of those things. I think it's just the simple fact that there are three cities in all of America that NBA players actually want to go do, and Dallas isn't one of them. New York, LA, and Miami. I suppose you could add San Francisco/bay area to that list now because the Warriors are the glamor team of the current era. But that's it. No owner, GM, coach, or star player will ever change that.



I dunno, I'll admit that I didn't watch that much of the Lakers last year, but I've watched most of his career, and the guy just doesn't get it. I'd rather take my chances with Dragic and whatever else we can find on the scrap heap.

Who's fighting to go to New York? When's the last time they snagged a big time free agent? Amare Stoudmire? Or are we going to call Julius Randle that? I don't buy the city thing because nobody can convince me that a player wouldn't want to play in Dallas with Cuban as a owner and the lack of state tax.

Westbrook is a flawed player. No doubt. Hell he would be far from the type guy I'd want because he's at his best with the ball in his hands and I'm not taking the ball out of Luka's hands for him. BUT, the guy can still rebound and defense. Solid passer as well. If he could buy in to being a role player and coming off the bench as a 6th man I'd be all for him coming here. I don't think that's the case sadly. But if they were to up and trade for him I wouldn't be against it for the right deal.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Who's fighting to go to New York? When's the last time they snagged a big time free agent? Amare Stoudmire? Or are we going to call Julius Randle that?

I mean, we're having this conversation because our 2nd best player is going to New York. And it's only because of Dolan's perpetual incompetence that the Knicks aren't immensely more successful. They damn near landed all three of Lebron, Wade, and Bosh in 2010, but supposedly Dolan blew the meeting. Trust me, if Dolan ever sold the team, they would immediately become THE favored destination for free agents, just like the Clippers did the moment Sterling was forced to sell.

And remember, New York has two teams. The Nets in their short time since moving to Brooklyn have a pretty successful track record attracting free agents.

I don't buy the city thing because nobody can convince me that a player wouldn't want to play in Dallas with Cuban as a owner and the lack of state tax.

Are we sure Cuban isn't more of a deterrent than an attraction at this point?

And you don't buy the city thing? Do you really not notice the Lakers, Clippers, Nets, and Heat getting every free agent, or every disgruntled star forcing a trade there?

I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I desperately do. But I won't believe Dallas is an attractive free agent destination until I see us make even ONE noteworthy signing. We have been passed over again and again and again, and I don't think it'd because Dirk wasn't one of the "in" players.