If Mavs miss out on Dwight/CP3

[mavs777]

I'd go with bynum even with the injury risk

[j0Shi]

/planpowder

[yahyes]

Wow. All sorts of options compared to last year. I went Josh Smith. Put him at SF. Then have him and Dirk with some pieces try to make a run at it. I'd take Iggy too with Calderon. While taking a chance with Oden for a cheap price.

[Melonhead]

Iggy with Calderon/jack

[yahyes]

Calderon, Iggy, Josh Smith, Dirk,and Sarge.

[spreedom]

Originally Posted by yahyes

Calderon, Iggy, Josh Smith, Dirk,and Sarge.

Probably impossible.

I'd love to add those first two guys, and if there's any money left over, spend it on getting the best center we can.

[oilfieldtrash]

Nate Robinson (great bang for the buck offensive punch guy aka Barea 2.0), Splitter (solid center should have an affordable contract questionable to be paired with a slow Dirk though), Monta Ellis (hell of a 1/2 punch paired with Dirk and possibly the best scorer Dirk has played with), JJ Hickson (rebounder with decent foot speed should be okay to be with Dirk on the floor), JJ Redick (great shooter and can drive the lane).

No interest in Smith or Iggy as the contract will likely be way too much for their talents.

[Bayliss]

It's not if... it is when.

[oilfieldtrash]

Originally Posted by Bayliss

It's not if... it is when.

Cp3 is already off the table. Dwight ain't coming here on hope that we'll get something done on our going on 3 year plan.

[Dirk's Knee]

Sign Calderon. If Oden looks like he's got anything left, sign him to a cheap 2 year with a team option. Draft Schroeder. Pick up Iggy. After all cards in place, use bird rights to exceed cap and retain Wright.

Starting Line up

Calderon/Schroeder
Iggy/Carter
Marion/Crowder
Nowitzki/Wright
Oden/Sarge

[nowhereman]

Per Stein: Mav's looking at Gal Mekel, MVP of the Israeli league, today.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...ucks-Mavericks

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

Nate Robinson (great bang for the buck offensive punch guy aka Barea 2.0), Splitter (solid center should have an affordable contract questionable to be paired with a slow Dirk though), Monta Ellis (hell of a 1/2 punch paired with Dirk and possibly the best scorer Dirk has played with), JJ Hickson (rebounder with decent foot speed should be okay to be with Dirk on the floor), JJ Redick (great shooter and can drive the lane).

No interest in Smith or Iggy as the contract will likely be way too much for their talents.

Splitter moves your meter? What do you like about him?

[oilfieldtrash]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Splitter moves your meter? What do you like about him?

Solid post defense. Won't get bulled over or pushed around fighting for boards. Decent bball IQ as I've seen more than a few high bball IQ cuts and passes.
Again the main thing is contract. I think the guy is about a 6 mil per year guy. Above that and I'm out.

[MavsFTR]

Apparently, Jazz will let Al Jefferson walk. I'd pick him up for a decent price.

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by nowhereman

Per Stein: Mav's looking at Gal Mekel, MVP of the Israeli league, today.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...ucks-Mavericks

Well alright... big splash here we come.

[CanadianMavsFan]

Pekovic and Al Jeff also available at the center spot.

[nowhereman]

Originally Posted by MavsFTR

Apparently, Jazz will let Al Jefferson walk. I'd pick him up for a decent price.

Couldn't hurt. Last time the Mavs tried in earnest to get him, they won the championship the following year.

[Underdog]

The Official Plan B Thread?

It's kinda hard to choose from this list, since these players could really be broken down into three tiers...

Ellis, Iguodala, Smith, Bynum, Martin, Pekovic (unlisted) and Jefferson (unlisted) would be the most expensive tier - probably $10m-$17m each... Jack, Mayo and Calderon will likely fall into the $6m-$10m range... Brand and Wright can probably be had for around the $5m MLE range, although having Bird Rights on Wright could make it possible to bring him back even if we go after some of these other guys.

If we're talking Plan B, then we're considering that first tier only - everybody else falls into Plan C or D territory.

Out of those guys, I'd put Iguodala's all-around game at the top, with Smith a close second (but only if we get rid of Marion)... Bynum could be the best player overall, but he also has the biggest bust potential... Ellis is ridiculously inefficient and has a bit of a reputation as a locker room cancer - not really a "Carlisle guy"... Martin is a great scorer, but doesn't do anything else well enough to justify the kind of money he's earned so far in his career... And for as awesome as Jefferson would look next to Dirk on offense, he'd look equally horrible next to Dirk on defense (think Dirk/Kaman). Pekovic is a lot like Jefferson in that he's not really a defensive anchor either.

Of course, we're only talking about free agents here... Honestly, I'd probably rather find a way to get DeMarcus Cousins than chase most of the guys listed above. He's only due $5m this season, so he won't be demanding max money until Dirk comes off the books. At that price, you could still chase a near-max guy through free agency.

[jasonic]

Don't trade the pick, resign Mayo (4 years/under 32 millions) and sign Iggy.

[purplefrog]

Plan X:
Kyle Korver
J.J. Redick
Marco Belinelli
Anthony Morrow
Nate Robinson

Let 'em fly!

[yahyes]

Lets not forget our last guy to sign should be Luke Walton, guys.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

Solid post defense. Won't get bulled over or pushed around fighting for boards. Decent bball IQ as I've seen more than a few high bball IQ cuts and passes.
Again the main thing is contract. I think the guy is about a 6 mil per year guy. Above that and I'm out.

He got bullied by Birdman in the finals. Nothing about him impresses me, especially the lack of athleticism. 6m per may be a bit high for what I've seen of him.

[clutch#41]

no discussion of JR.Smith and he's flying under the radar. any way the MAVS sign him up to be the 6th man? anybody like that? i know he sucked it up in the playoffs but when hes on his game hes deadly

[Bayliss]

I really hope they don't go after JR. I'd rather them keep Mayo than sign JR.

[rabbitproof]

lol that Brandan Wright is on this list.

[oilfieldtrash]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

He got bullied by Birdman in the finals. Nothing about him impresses me, especially the lack of athleticism. 6m per may be a bit high for what I've seen of him.

Birdman disappeared in the finals even to the point he didn't play a single minute in game 3. But don't let facts get in the way here.

[oilfieldtrash]

Originally Posted by clutch#41

no discussion of JR.Smith and he's flying under the radar. any way the MAVS sign him up to be the 6th man? anybody like that? i know he sucked it up in the playoffs but when hes on his game hes deadly

I can hear the collective sigh in the AAC now when JR Smith completely ignores Dirk while JR takes his 20th shot of the game.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

lol that Brandan Wright is on this list.

Don't LOL too hard - 23% of the people who voted in this poll picked him as PLAN B... I mean, if the poll asked what was LIKELY to happen, then he'd be a realistic choice - but ranking him right behind Dwight Howard and Chris Paul as the guy that the Mavs FO should be chasing if those two fall through? This board is so full of give-up right now.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

I can hear the collective sigh in the AAC now when JR Smith completely ignores Dirk while JR takes his 20th shot of the game.

+1, no thanks to JR Smith.

[rabbitproof]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Don't LOL too hard - 23% of the people who voted in this poll picked him as PLAN B... I mean, if the poll asked what was LIKELY to happen, then he'd be a realistic choice - but ranking him right behind Dwight Howard and Chris Paul as the guy that the Mavs FO should be chasing if those two fall through? This board is so full of give-up right now.

Well, I lol'd and then voted for Wright. Hard to take serious when he's on the list.

It's just funny that plan B is existing backup when plan A is top five player.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

Birdman disappeared in the finals even to the point he didn't play a single minute in game 3. But don't let facts get in the way here.

He "disappeared"...until he reappeared and played quality minutes in the two most important games of the entire NBA season.

I'd say something about not letting facts get in the way, but that'd be kinda trite at this point, don't you think?

[CanadianMavsFan]

I've said this in previous threads, but if the Mavericks can pick up Calderon or Jack, in addition to either Cousins/Jefferson/Pekovic/Bynum I would be happy with the off season. The Mavericks desperately need help at both of those positions, and Dirk is an animal with a good center beside him.

If the Mavs could grab a combination of those, plus add some other pieces with the MLE, that would be wonderful.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

Birdman disappeared in the finals even to the point he didn't play a single minute in game 3. But don't let facts get in the way here.

Lol. The facts? Did you watch the finals?

I think you are confused on the game(s) that Andersen missed. I believe it was 4 and 5. Which has little to do with the fact that he out muscles and imo intimidated Splitter when they opposed. Matchups and the flow of the game probably had more to do with either players playing time.

I mean, we're splitting hairs with the numbers really. Splitter played what 4 minutes in the all important Game 7 and 8 minutes in games 6, while Andersen played 19 and 14, both in wins.

If I have to pick from the two at the same salary, I'd take Bird. That's how unimpressed with Splitter I am.

[Dirk's Knee]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Lol. The facts? Did you watch the finals?

I think you are confused on the game(s) that Andersen missed. I believe it was 4 and 5. Which has little to do with the fact that he out muscles and imo intimidated Splitter when they opposed. Matchups and the flow of the game probably had more to do with either players playing time.

I mean, we're splitting hairs with the numbers really. Splitter played what 4 minutes in the all important Game 7 and 8 minutes in games 6, while Andersen played 19 and 14, both in wins.

If I have to pick from the two at the same salary, I'd take Bird. That's how unimpressed with Splitter I am.

Have to agree. Splitter looked to have a big upside, but he just looked slow and ineffective on the floor. Anderson actually impressed me with his defense and level of physical play. I don't think I'd want either starting on the Mavs, but I wouldn't mind having an Anderson type off the bench when we need a bruiser to intimidate in the post.

[jacktruth]

Am I the only one hoping that all the Dwight/CP3 talk is just a diversion while the mavs execute a sneaky and superb plan B?

If it is, I'll take back about 72% of the bad things I've said about Mark Cuban during the last year.

[mac222b]

Put me down for Calderon(3 yrs. 22million). Draft Dieng. Split the non-taxpayer MLE on Marco Bellinelli(2 yr.7 million)and one of either Wes Johnson or Gerald Henderson. Trade for Robin Lopez(non guarenteed 5 mil.). Resign Brandon Wright. Keep Marion.

Bigs: Dieng, B.James, Lopez, Dirk, Wright
Wings: Trix, Crowder, VC
SG: Bellinelli, VC, Wes Johnson
PG: Calderon, Mike James, Cunningham

Dirk, Shawn, VC, Lopez come off the books next summer freeing up 40 million in space.
Dirk re-signs for 3yrs. 24 million leaving room for two top tier free agents to go along with the core of Dieng, Dirk, Calderon. Sign the best impact wing free-agent available.
Also retain good tradeable assets(Dieng, Marion, VC, Lopez, Cunningham, Crowder expiring contracts) in case a deal for DeMarcus Cousins or some other young impact player comes available at this years deadline.

I have no idea how feasible a trade for Lopez would be and i'm approximating salary cap stuff, but close enough

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by jacktruth

Am I the only one hoping that all the Dwight/CP3 talk is just a diversion while the mavs execute a sneaky and superb plan B?

If it is, I'll take back about 72% of the bad things I've said about Mark Cuban during the last year.

Someone mentioned a monster trade for Garnett and Pierce. Anyone care to venture a guess what this would look like?

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Put me down for Calderon(3 yrs. 22million). Draft Dieng. Split the non-taxpayer MLE on Marco Bellinelli(2 yr.7 million)and one of either Wes Johnson or Gerald Henderson. Trade for Robin Lopez(non guarenteed 5 mil.). Resign Brandon Wright. Keep Marion.

Bigs: Dieng, B.James, Lopez, Dirk, Wright
Wings: Trix, Crowder, VC
SG: Bellinelli, VC, Wes Johnson
PG: Calderon, Mike James, Cunningham

Dirk, Shawn, VC, Lopez come off the books next summer freeing up 40 million in space.
Dirk re-signs for 3yrs. 24 million leaving room for two top tier free agents to go along with the core of Dieng, Dirk, Calderon. Sign the best impact wing free-agent available.
Also retain good tradeable assets(Dieng, Marion, VC, Lopez, Cunningham, Crowder expiring contracts) in case a deal for DeMarcus Cousins or some other young impact player comes available at this years deadline.

I have no idea how feasible a trade for Lopez would be and i'm approximating salary cap stuff, but close enough

Is Bellinelli only gonna cost MLE? If so, yes yesterday.

[nowhereman]

You're both very wrong on Birdman's role in the finals. He was a major factor, but he had little to no role in Splitter's performance because he was used almost exclusively against Duncan.

[spreedom]

Why do we keep bringing up Belinelli? He seems like a spare to me. Made a couple of nice plays against Miami but overall he's a very average player, and not the type of guy that we should be spending a lot of cap space on.