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Old 09-12-2020, 04:07 PM   #1
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I’m for acquiring talent this summer. If Giannis wants to come here, it’s been proven time and again that cap space can be carved out. GSW alone have done it like three times in the last 5 years or so! Stole Iggy from us that way.

I think the goal with the MLE should be a quality rotation player on a not onerous contract. Personally I like Saric: his 3 pint percentage would improve here and he could be a playmaker with our second unit and would thrive in RCs offense. Problem is, Phoenix may just match if we offer MLE as he’s restricted. And he’s not a great defensive player.

Other option with MLE is giving part of it to guys like Derrick Jones Jr. or our own Trey Burke.

I’m ok with us using the picks in trade if it brings back a difference maker or younger player who will be part of the long term core. Ideally though, we come away from this draft with two young players: maybe one, or both, is ready to contribute right away. That seems to be a trend around the league. Maybe one or both become assets for a big trade down the line. It’s a draft with nice depth.

Worst case scenario seems to be standing pat AND missing out on Giannis. I’m not at all in favour of using MLE if MBT doesn’t like what’s available. I don’t think handing an old guy like Millsap or Baynes, as much as I like both, a 3yr deal just because we need “enforcers” is a good use of resources. I think there is bound to be some player who fits our roster available for part or all of MLE.
Interesting, thanks.

So, just so I'm clear, are you against ANY players past a certain age, and only interesting in young players, no matter what?

Like, is Jru Holiday too old, for example? Not saying he's available (though he could be) but that's a player who I do think would move the needle for this team. Would you be upset with that based on the timeline of the team, or are you all in for putting the best possible team on the floor for the next two seasons?
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Old 09-12-2020, 05:04 PM   #2
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Interesting, thanks.

So, just so I'm clear, are you against ANY players past a certain age, and only interesting in young players, no matter what?

Like, is Jru Holiday too old, for example? Not saying he's available (though he could be) but that's a player who I do think would move the needle for this team. Would you be upset with that based on the timeline of the team, or are you all in for putting the best possible team on the floor for the next two seasons?
For me, it’s all relative to cost. I’m not against older players at all, but it depends on what they cost and how they impact future moves. Vets on short deals to act as bridge to compete while we work towards finding another impact “star”, that’s fine. It’s a really difficult line they have to walk: Luka Is ready to compete for titles NOW. But also for the next decade plus. I prefer to put other young vets around him and keep acquiring assets. I think between the two picks and MLE we should be able to accomplish that pretty well. Like if we get someone between the two picks at 18&31 who can give us decent minutes next season and a developmental prospect that would be a win.

Let’s say one of the Bey’s at 18 comes in and plays 15-20 per night off the bench for us. And at 31 Quickley or Cassius Stanley are our developmental guy playing spot minutes but effectively redshirting. Or vice versa— maledon, Poku, Hampton developmental guy at 18 and a Bane or Tre Jones or Nwora vet at 31 plays next season.

Another option is to trade the #18 for a young vet ala Denver with Grant if the opportunity presents. That way we lock up a guy on our timeline and we also aren’t waiting for 2-3 years potentially for the pick to become a viable reliable playoff rotation guy.


I think Jru costs more than he’s worth to us. It would take all our assets- or at least two of Maxi, Seth, DFS and 18&31 and probably 2025 1st. Not worth it to me to lose depth and all those assets. I’d rather save for the eventual Beal move and be in position for a guy like that.

Pick good young players with our picks and ideally get a useable, re-routable player with the MLE if possible. Don’t spend the MLE for the sake of using it ala Delon. I’d rather a short term vet than an albatross.

Dumping the picks for “powder” seems worst case scenario to me. This will be a really weird draft and FA with lots of uncertainty. Unless they have an inside line on a young vet FA like Joe Harris or Christian Wood in FA It’s too much of a gamble to assume someone will want to take our money or that even if they did there would be value to be had in doing so. In fact it’s possible this could lead to an overpay. Like giving an older guy like Gallo too much for too many years.
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