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10-12-2003, 01:16 PM
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Been messing around on Patricia's site and this is what I've found after the first 3 preseason games compared to last year's numbers:
Dirk Stats Last year: He took a shot every 2.09 minutes This year: He takes a shot every 1.89 minutes Last year: He grabbed a rebound every 3.9 minutes This year: He grabs a rebound every 3.5 minutes Last year: He made an assist every 13 minutes This year: He makes an assist every 17 minutes Last year: He went to the FT line every 5.7 minutes This year: He's going to the line every 4.5 minutes Last year: He blocked a shot every 38 minutes This year: He blocks a shot every 17 minutes Last year: He had a steal every 17 minutes This year: He has a steal every 68 minutes What do those numbers tell me? Dirk is becoming more aggressive offensively, with taking more shots and getting to the line more frequently. Yes Michael Finley is out but the FT line number is the most impressive stat offensively. If he can get to the line on average 7-8 times a game this year... it will benefit the Mavs. Anytime an 85% gets more FT attempts is a definite plus. Defensively, he seems to playing more inside. The two games I watched he is more content on contesting shots in the post, as well as keeping his man in front of him. He's been holding his position pretty well, and haven't given up a lot of cheappies. If Nellie keeps him guarding power forwards and centers I wouldn't be suprised to see him average 2 blocks a game and a steal a game. Suprisingly with all of the rebounders on our team now... Dirk is averaging more rebounds than he did last year. And that is good because our rebounders compliment each other. Fortson, LaFrentz, and Jamison are good offensive rebounders, and Dirk is a great defensive rebounder. They concentrate on their strengths while on the court and it will improve their overall effectiveness. (Edited for clarity and typos.) |
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10-12-2003, 01:19 PM
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nice research Bayliss.
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10-12-2003, 03:04 PM
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agreed although preseason doesnt mean a thing.
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10-12-2003, 03:17 PM
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I agree to a certain extent about preseason not meaning anything. But the preseason is when players incorporate what they've been practicing on in the offseason. The three main things Dirk wanted to work on this summer was athleticism, post defense, and passing.
Those three things can be semi-measured when looking at stats. His assists are not up so far this year but he is iniating the offense from the wing. And that is a step in the right direction of his passing skills and "vision." Dirk is slowing becoming the point forward that Nellie wants him to be. A player that can start the offense and let others run screens etc for Nash, Fin, Welsch for perimeter shots.. and Jamison for underneath shots. His improved athleticism will help him draw more fouls on the opposing team as will as grab more boards. And his post defense can be seen by blocks but also how well he keeps his position and keeps the opposing power forward from their "comfort" zone on the offensive end. |
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10-15-2003, 06:29 PM
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I updated it from the latest game.
Dirk Stats Last year: He took a shot every 2.09 minutes This year: He takes a shot every 2.13 minutes Last year: He grabbed a rebound every 3.9 minutes This year: He grabs a rebound every 4.36 minutes Last year: He made an assist every 13 minutes This year: He makes an assist every 10.7 minutes Last year: He went to the FT line every 5.7 minutes This year: He's going to the line every 5.6 minutes Last year: He blocked a shot every 38 minutes This year: He blocks a shot every 24 minutes Last year: He had a steal every 17 minutes This year: He has a steal every 48 minutes Amazing how one game affected his rebounding and, assists, and steals.... Will be interesting to see how they pan out when he gets a few more games under his belt. |
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10-15-2003, 06:55 PM
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Come on now Bayliss. This is preseason we are talking about here. I don't think anyone really cares about any wins or losses here. That could also mean the best is yet to come from Dirk this season but with Fin being out and this being preseason I don't think these stats are reliable.
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(And personally... if you don't care about preseason stats... don't post or read this thread.) |
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10-16-2003, 06:34 AM
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when the real season starts and players get down to it.. lets see if the hunger is there. they have to be foaming at the mouth from what happened in the playoffs. especially dirk!...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] cant wait!...
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Thanks for keeping track of things, we can see how much variation there is game to game, but conclusions are premature. How did Dirk's preseason stats last year compare to his regular season stats last year? That might help people decide whether they can trust preseason stats this year to predict regular season stats this year. |
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10-16-2003, 08:20 PM
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Last year Reg: He took a shot every 2.09 minutes Last year Preseason: He took a shot every 1.66 minutes Last year: He grabbed a rebound every 3.9 minutes Last year Preseason: He grabbed a rebound every 4.06 minutes Last year Reg: He made an assist every 13 minutes Last year Preseason: He made an assist every 13.8 minutes Last year Reg: He went to the FT line every 5.7 minutes Last year Preseason: He went to the line every 4.96 minutes Last year: He blocked a shot every 38 minutes Last year Preseason: He blocked a shot every 51.75 minutes Last year Reg: He had a steal every 17 minutes Last year Preseason: He had a steal every 23 minutes |
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