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Old 05-11-2009, 10:11 PM   #361
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Those were two of the worst flagrant fouls i've ever seen called. I'm a nuggets fan and have no clue what these refs are doing....
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this is not what i want to see, come on guys.
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this is getting comical
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Since it's raining flagrant, why not give Carmelo a torn ACL?
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I'm sorry, but anyone who pulls the "you can't blame the refs" card is a complete and utter moron.
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The refs are calling this game tight, so if the Mavs want to even get close, they need to stop jacking up jumpers and take it too the rack. Also, the decision to put Howard on 'Melo is a complete joke. Whatever offense Howard gives you, he will more than cancel out defensively.
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Is anyone still blaming wright for not wrapping up carmelo or shoving him out of bounds? I guess he was right thinking he would get a flagrant for that.
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Since it's raining flagrant, why not give Carmelo a torn ACL?
Hell, if Carmelo trips running down the court on a fast break we'll get a flagrant 2, even if no Mav is within 5 feet.
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I love how people were defending the crap officiating by saying "it's the playoffs they let them make contact" or "it's the end of the game they don't call things." What's the excuse for this crap? There is none.

It's like that Bill Simmons article about everyone knows the officiating is crap, but none of the commentators or anyone can recognize it.
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The play I keep thinking back to is Game 3. Carter just reaches out and shoves Bass when bass is going for the dunk. No attempt at the ball whatsoever. But no flagrant. That was surely worse than both flagrants here.
Was it Carter ? I believe it was D. Jones who fouled Bass in that play.

Either way, this officiating is unbelievable. Not saying that the Mavs are playing well or better than the Nuggets, but come on now. Don't be so damn obvious. This is ridiculous.

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any bets on how many players will be ejected this game?
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Even Charles admit it's not a flagrant.
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So how was KMarts foul on Dirk in game 1 not originally called a flagrant?
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Denver has been making plays like that all series without it being a foul, why are we the ones who get punished for being physical?
Seriously...how often they slammed a Mav down like that to interfere a save basket?

And remember anyone Jones-Bass not being a flagrant in game 3?

Wow...its ridiculous.
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Mavs dont want to go to Denver for another beating, let's end this now and prepare next season.
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I want to see RC grab the ball and punt it into the crowd on the next ridiculous call.
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I wish the cameras would zoom in on the refs making the calls a little more. They're the true playmakers.
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The officiating might suck, but I wish we would start playing defense like the Nuggets.
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You see why I hate the way the Nuggets are playing bball right now? They are trying to change basketball by making it more violent and less decided by skill. So they set a rough tone for this series from the beginning, when Kenyon Martin virtually threw Dirk to the floor.

So betwen that and the botched call at the end of game 3, League headquarters is worried about the potential for payback, a fight, things like that, in game 4. So the referees in this game are given marching orders by NBA headquarters to call as many flagrant and technical fouls as necessary to keep control of this game.

So the referees do call a large number of technicals and flagrants in game 4. But who gets them? You guessed it, the Mavericks are hammered with technicals and flagrants, as they try to repond to the Nuggets' disrespect of basketball by getting rougher themselves.

You see how George Karl and the Nuggets are trying to snooker the NBA and basketball? You see how they are getting away with it? By the time the League has responded to the Nuggets' style, it's the Mavericks who are "caught."

The Nuggets are getting away with trying to change basketball, until and unless the Nuggets are put down by the Lakers or the Rockets.

Only in George Karl's twisted mind was that a flagrant against Linas Kleiza. It was not a flagrant foul in any other series, only this one, for the reasons I just gave you.
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The worst reffed game, bar none, that I've seen since 2006.
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Canebad, I think that is BS. How many times have they just stole the ball from us (no foul) and ran down and jammed it in. We have to struggle to get shots off. I don't like them, but I will give them credit, they do play defense!!
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Umm, if we did that we'd have half our roster fouled out or ejected.
And, at this point, why would this matter?

Use up the fouls and when they're all used up, the game is over.

Next year bring in a couple of serious thugs--big guys at the minimum. It doesn't matter for the last couple of spots. Just the threat might make the NBA think seriously about what it's doing to the game.
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We cant? How many flagrants we would get?? NOW we are stopping the easy baskets like Denver did 3 games and now WE get hammered with flagrants for it.
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I guess it wouldn't be classy if they refused to come out until that officiating crew is fired and replaced
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I told you mf'ers early in the year that this league is a joke and I pretty much quit watching it. I was kind of sucked in again when we beat sa. Never again will I give another cent to this damned league until stern is gone. I am done for good. It's a shame that my favorite sport is unwatchable, but it is what it is. Rigged.

Nuggets fans, you have no shot in the next round even if you are a better team, which is entirely possible. It's been decided already. Sucks for you...we've been there, it blows but get ready for your anal raping. It's coming.
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Maybe the Mavs can draft some guys straight out of prison or something. If that happens, it will be a shame that I won't be seeing it. The next Mavs loss is the last game of NBA basketball I watch.

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Use up the fouls and when they're all used up, the game is over.

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lol Mark Cuban's Twitter currently: I just got called for a flagrant 1 for sneezing. Its 2 kleenex and the ball #fb
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No way we could win this series at this situation guys, let em have this one and prepare for next season. But before that i want to have :
1. Carlisle to punt the ball into the crowd for a lame call as suggested by BPo001.
2. Dampier to body slam Kmart and give a kick on the face.
3. Wright to left KMart grimacing in pain with a torn ACL.
4. Hollins to squeez Nene's testicles.
5. Cubes rushing directly to KMart for a straight jab.
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I couldn't follow the first half, but it seems I didn't miss much. Nice reffing again...

Btw, finally RC has the guts to play Dirk longer in a decisive game. I didn't understand why Dirk only played 38 minutes during the last one.
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I got called for a flagrant because I just touched my Carmelo basketball card.
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Lol, but Dirk pounded and no call.
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The way this announcer says Nowitzki annoys me. Just call him Dirk dude.
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That was out on Jones!
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