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DevinHarriswillstart · 07-26-2017, 02:40 PM

People cried for a 3 and D guy envisioning a entirely different team two seasons ago with Parsons and DAJ. He made no sense the second DAJ reneged.

If he goes back to being a 3 and D guy playing 25 minutes or less, then I'm perfectly fine with his role on this team.

SMC0007 · 07-26-2017, 02:52 PM

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The Matthews hate here is disturbing.

People cried for a 3/D guy. He's it.

Dude gets 90% of the flack for our crappy season, but it was just a bum roster and Rick made him do things he wasn't capable of.

I'm frustrated by the fact that he hasn't improved his handles in the years he has been a Professional, when that is his biggest...well almost only weakness in his game. It's the one thing you don't need much more than a ball and some cones to improve, you can do it anywhere. Part of being a professional is working on your biggest weakness to get the most out of yourself. Maybe he has worked tirelessly each offseason on it and just can't get it much better, but it doesn't appear to be the case.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-26-2017, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

I'm frustrated by the fact that he hasn't improved his handles in the years he has been a Professional, when that is his biggest...well almost only weakness in his game. It's the one thing you don't need much more than a ball and some cones to improve, you can do it anywhere. Part of being a professional is working on your biggest weakness to get the most out of yourself. Maybe he has worked tirelessly each offseason on it and just can't get it much better, but it doesn't appear to be the case.

I think this coincides with the fact that he often has poor decision making. Poor decision making plus poor handles is a near fatal combination.

mac222b · 07-26-2017, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

I'm frustrated by the fact that he hasn't improved his handles in the years he has been a Professional, when that is his biggest...well almost only weakness in his game. It's the one thing you don't need much more than a ball and some cones to improve, you can do it anywhere. Part of being a professional is working on your biggest weakness to get the most out of yourself. Maybe he has worked tirelessly each offseason on it and just can't get it much better, but it doesn't appear to be the case.

He isnt very athletic. Not a lot of bend- to use football parlance. He's stiff and upright. Unfortunately I think we're stuck with him the next two seasons. Don't see him opting out of 18m. Best case he'd get something like 3 for 30 or thereabouts and it'll be his last big contract. As Bryan Wilson said he's on the downside of his career and even if he has a bounce back career type year he's overpaid by 6m or a third of his salary(at least!). Still don't understand giving him the extra 4m after the DeAndre fiasco.

SMC0007 · 07-26-2017, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I think this coincides with the fact that he often has poor decision making. Poor decision making plus poor handles is a near fatal combination.

Perhaps the fact that he is limited on where he can get with the ball contributes to his lack of options for his decision making. He can't get to the rim at will off the dribble so when he tries to penetrate he doesn't have the options for an outlet or ability to draw a foul.

SMC0007 · 07-26-2017, 04:04 PM

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He isnt very athletic. Not a lot of bend- to use football parlance. He's stiff and upright. Unfortunately I think we're stuck with him the next two seasons. Don't see him opting out of 18m. Best case he'd get something like 3 for 30 or thereabouts and it'll be his last big contract. As Bryan Wilson said he's on the downside of his career and even if he has a bounce back career type year he's overpaid by 6m or a third of his salary(at least!). Still don't understand giving him the extra 4m after the DeAndre fiasco.

Yea, he's not very athletic as far as jumping and agility goes, but it appears that he is plenty quick enough and has quick hands and good anticipation which is why he excels on defense. I just wish he could tighten up his dribbles to the point where he can get more places off the dribble and open up options for himself and everyone else. Since it appears he can't do that, it puts a lot of pressure on him to be a dead eye shooter.

Blaming a guards shortcomings on other guard play is hard for me to fully buy into.

Underdog · 08-02-2017, 09:17 PM

Danny Crawford can burn in hell.

SMC0007 · 08-03-2017, 09:29 AM

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Danny Crawford can burn in hell.

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rimrocker · 08-03-2017, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Yea, he's not very athletic as far as jumping and agility goes, but it appears that he is plenty quick enough and has quick hands and good anticipation which is why he excels on defense. I just wish he could tighten up his dribbles to the point where he can get more places off the dribble and open up options for himself and everyone else. Since it appears he can't do that, it puts a lot of pressure on him to be a dead eye shooter.

Blaming a guards shortcomings on other guard play is hard for me to fully buy into.

I think it will be up to RC to get Wes into his comfort zone. That was difficult with our PGs last season but it should be much easier for RC to make that happen now with a skilled playmaking PG.
Last season Wes seemed to take on a role that wasn't conducive to his skillsets but now that we have a primary ball handler and true lane penetrator he can become more of that 3-D guy that we need.
I'm hoping Rick will put Wes back to SG because I think DSJ/Wes will be a better backcourt than DSJ/Curry.

I'd love to see Curry embrace and excel in that JET/NVE/Stack/VC sixth man role that has been vital for us for years.

EricaLubarsky · 08-03-2017, 11:13 AM

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Ejected.

But it was my first T!

Arguing? Triple T. Double ejected

dirt_dobber · 08-03-2017, 11:24 AM

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But it was my first T!

Arguing? Triple T. Double ejected

why I hope this board survives - you guys crack me up.

EricaLubarsky · 08-11-2017, 10:59 AM

Rookie photoshoot showed off our new player and our new jersey colors

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/08/1...oot-2017-recap

Underdog · 08-11-2017, 11:05 AM

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Rookie photoshoot showed off our new player and our new jersey colors

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/08/1...oot-2017-recap

BPo001 · 08-11-2017, 11:59 AM

I figured they would have a cyberdust logo on them. Jerseys look ok. Don't really notice any changes besides the Nike swoosh.

Melonhead · 08-11-2017, 03:17 PM

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/a...y-great-teams/

"...But the conversation around this team was a dichotomy of awe and skepticism. Their talent was absurd, with James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and a solid cast of vets. But they never figured out how to play together. And the emotional strain of being labeled villains helped them fall apart at the worst time, during the Finals against an unkillable Mavericks team:

The Heat could (and probably should) have won that series (just as the Thunder probably should have won the WCF). But that Mavericks team was special. They played with so much freedom, confidence, precision and joy -- oh, and Dirk Nowitzki was unquestionably the best player on the floor in every game during that run.."

Interesting article on why none of Lebron's teams are truly considered great. I bolded the best part of the article

dirt_dobber · 08-12-2017, 06:08 AM

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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/a...y-great-teams/

"...But the conversation around this team was a dichotomy of awe and skepticism. Their talent was absurd, with James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and a solid cast of vets. But they never figured out how to play together. And the emotional strain of being labeled villains helped them fall apart at the worst time, during the Finals against an unkillable Mavericks team:

The Heat could (and probably should) have won that series (just as the Thunder probably should have won the WCF). But that Mavericks team was special. They played with so much freedom, confidence, precision and joy -- oh, and Dirk Nowitzki was unquestionably the best player on the floor in every game during that run.."

Interesting article on why none of Lebron's teams are truly considered great. I bolded the best part of the article

Nice find - thanks!

Skywalker · 08-12-2017, 05:58 PM

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Those mannequins have Kyrie Irving shoes on, Kyrie to Mavs confirmed tbh

Underdog · 08-17-2017, 11:43 PM

@dalton_trigg: In response to my piece I wrote the other day, @WessyWes23 tells me, "I promise I won't make you a liar." #MFFL

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2017/8...hooter-defense

Underdog · 08-19-2017, 08:09 PM

@IsaacHarrisNBA: Ladies & gentlemen, the 2010-11 Dallas Mavericks will be on NBA2K18

Underdog · 08-24-2017, 08:29 AM

Wesley Matthews confronted a 2K Sports employee about his ‘NBA 2K18’ rating at Harrison Barnes’ wedding

LOL, why would he expect to be rated higher than 83 when he shot 39% from the field last season? If you want to be rated better, play better.

saclare · 08-24-2017, 10:03 AM

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Wesley Matthews confronted a 2K Sports employee about his ‘NBA 2K18’ rating at Harrison Barnes’ wedding

LOL, why would he expect to be rated higher than 83 when he shot 39% from the field last season? If you want to be rated better, play better.

All in jest, IMO, even Carlisle got in on it. I like it. You want your players to have that fire and competitiveness. And just like you said, Mathews will get better and he knows he has to in order to get that rating up. By the way, not a bad rating at all...

MavzMan · 08-25-2017, 08:26 AM

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Mathews will get better and he knows he has to in order to get that rating up.

Am I missing something with this rating? There are no ties to real life or money from this video game rating, right? This rating is an individual stat and if players are this worried about it, it really places the emphasis on them making themselves look better and not necessarily the team. It just seems like every player has to post to Instagram now asking their followers what they think of their rating.

saclare · 08-25-2017, 10:32 AM

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Am I missing something with this rating? There are no ties to real life or money from this video game rating, right? This rating is an individual stat and if players are this worried about it, it really places the emphasis on them making themselves look better and not necessarily the team. It just seems like every player has to post to Instagram now asking their followers what they think of their rating.

No. However, NBA 2K is un-suprisingly popular among fans and the players alike. These guys are some of the most competitive dudes when it comes to these things, individual or not. Like I said though, most of it is in jest and I highly doubt Mathews was super serious about it.

Underdog · 08-29-2017, 12:16 PM

@IsaacHarrisNBA: Dallas Mavericks announce preseason schedule

Underdog · 09-13-2017, 03:26 PM

Video Game Leakes Full Set of NBA Alternate Jerseys http://news.sportslogos.net/2017/09/...rnate-jerseys/

EricaLubarsky · 09-13-2017, 05:04 PM

That jersey is new?

Underdog · 09-13-2017, 06:02 PM

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That jersey is new?

Nope, most of them aren't... Hell, all the Mavs jerseys so far have been exactly the same as last year, except now they have a little Nike swoosh on them. Still one more the be unveiled though -- I'm hoping for the something green (would love to see the Diddys make a comeback, but I could go for the Hardwood Classics too).

EricaLubarsky · 09-13-2017, 06:09 PM

Yeah Nike is bigger and shoulders are smaller (for more maneuverability) but I had to look close to see it was new. Nothing bad about iterating. It's just not exciting

Underdog · 09-14-2017, 01:05 AM

Is Michael Porter Jr. Worth the Tank?

https://thesmokingcuban.com/2017/09/...jr-worth-tank/

Bryan_Wilson · 09-14-2017, 04:49 AM

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Is Michael Porter Jr. Worth the Tank?

https://thesmokingcuban.com/2017/09/...jr-worth-tank/

Not to be too much of a Mavs homer but how in the world are we still getting projected for 34 wins? If Dirk doesn't miss 25 games last year we might have actually stumbled into the playoffs. And after NN was here if you take out the last 3-4 games we admittedly did tank we were a .500 team. If none of our players from last year take one step in their development we are still a better team than the one that was on the floor those first 30 games. The only reason I don't have us making the playoffs is because it could be similar to the year where it took 50 wins to make the 8th seed. The Mavs could win 40-44 games and miss the playoffs, which is not close to being a tank team.

Male30Dan · 09-14-2017, 08:37 AM

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Not to be too much of a Mavs homer but how in the world are we still getting projected for 34 wins? If Dirk doesn't miss 25 games last year we might have actually stumbled into the playoffs. And after NN was here if you take out the last 3-4 games we admittedly did tank we were a .500 team. If none of our players from last year take one step in their development we are still a better team than the one that was on the floor those first 30 games. The only reason I don't have us making the playoffs is because it could be similar to the year where it took 50 wins to make the 8th seed. The Mavs could win 40-44 games and miss the playoffs, which is not close to being a tank team.

I think you're forgetting how much better the West got in general, making it that much tougher to get wins against teams that we play the majority of the time. I agree that 34 is low and I would personally take the over by about 6 games, but I think us making the playoffs is going to be a real challenge unless everyone can stay healthy and Matthews can play much, much better with less of a responsibility to create offense now (that and DSJ playing at a ROY level).

Frankly, as sad as it is to admit, we're probably to the point in Dirk's career where banking on him missing less than 10-20 games a year is more of a hope than a reality, but I sure hope I'm wrong about that. I think he rests AT LEAST 8 games (we have 15 back to backs) and, again, then you're assuming he doesn't have any swelling in his knees, etc if you expect that to be all he's out for. Just low odds at this point, but fingers crossed for sure.

MavzMan · 09-14-2017, 09:40 AM

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I think you're forgetting how much better the West got in general, making it that much tougher to get wins against teams that we play the majority of the time.

I would almost say that we have improved to the bottom tier of playoffs teams and a few teams have seriously downgraded (LAC,UTA). I could see LAC actually falling completely out of the playoffs and DEN is kind of a wild card. Given that, DAL could actually reach the 6 seed if POR stumbles and we improve significantly with DSJ.

Tier 1 - GSW, SAS, HOU
Tier 2 - OKC, POR
Tier 3 - LAC, DEN, NOP, DAL (1 will miss playoffs)
Tier 0 - MEM, PHO, LAL, MIN, SAC, UTA

2017 WC final season rankings and Mavs record against them:
GSW 0-3 - waiting on trophy
SAS 1-3 - added Rudy Gay
HOU 0-4 - added Chris Paul, PJ Tucker
LAC 2-2 - lost Chris Paul
UTA 1-3 - lost Gordon Hayward, George Hill
OKC 1-2 - added Paul George, Ray Felton, Patrick Patterson
MEM 2-2 - lost Zach Randolph, Vince Carter, added Ben McLemore
POR 2-2 - pretty much the same
DEN 1-3 - lost Danilo Gallinari, added Paul Millsap
NOP 2-2 - added Rajon Rondo
DAL
SAC 1-2 - lost Tyreke Evans, Rudy Gay, added Zach Randolph, George Hill
MIN 1-2 - still young and improving
LAL 4-0 - still suck
PHO 1-3 - still suck

Total 17-31

sefant77 · 09-14-2017, 10:00 AM

Blazers arent Tier 2 and Wolves arent Tier 4 (you forget the Butler trade)

Jazz lost Hayward but had a great draft and if Favors is finally healthy again they are a good Tier 3 team

Grizzlies are done

We are right there between #6 and #10

EricaLubarsky · 09-14-2017, 10:08 AM

I'm not sure the West is as improved as people think. It's absolutely the only conference worthy of the finals, but I see either two or three teams falling out of the playoffs (LAC , UTA, and maybe MEM) and only one team that I'd gamble will move up into the playoffs (Minn). That leaves 1-2 spots for Dallas, Denver, or Lakers to move up. Wins will be hard to come by with 4 matchups against each Western team, but there are still 1-2 playoff spots up for grabs. Maybe more if there are injuries.

Potentially Improved
OKC - Can Westbrook play with PG? If so, they're at least on paper a much improved team.
MIN - Seriously got better. Coaching is terrible, but finally have talent at every position.
LAL - Still don't put them in the playoffs, but I can at least confidently say they're improved
DAL - Didn't lose anything significant. Added an exciting rookie star, but it may take a few years.
SAC - If Fox pans out, they are improved, but definitely not a playoff team. 32 wins last year and maybe 38 this year.

Stayed Pat
GSW - stayed pat. May actually play more for the playoffs than the regular season
SAS - Stayed pat. Still have the same issues as last year but another year on them.
HOU - Let's be honest. There is only one ball. That has the potential to cause issues and at the very least won't make them much better and could even backfire.
DEN - Milsap in. Galinari out. Not too exciting. At least they kept Jokic.
NOP - Did essentially nothing when they needed to address their guard situation. Not looking good for the Davis/Boogie pairing.
POR - Didn't do much
PHX - Jackson is the real deal, but that team is still a hot mess.

Got worse
LAC - Teodosic is talented and the real deal, but he's a slow euro. Clippers have been heading downhill for years.
MEM - Could be just as good or could be worse. Hard to tell, but they didn't get better.
UTA - They did the best damage control they could, but still took a hit losing one of their young core.

DevinHarriswillstart · 09-14-2017, 12:27 PM

I actually think 34 wins is being generous, and I'm really not trying to be pessimistic. I'd frankly rather tank for another strong draft...esp if the rules change by 2019.

But if DSJ, Noel, and Barnes all take big steps forward, then I'm all about a fun, winning season.

It'll be fun to watch no matter what with Smith.

SMC0007 · 09-14-2017, 02:04 PM

I think we break even on the season and go down to the wire for 7th/8th seed.

The difference will be wether or not we win the close games.

Hot sports prediction

EricaLubarsky · 09-14-2017, 02:41 PM

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I think we break even on the season and go down to the wire for 7th/8th seed.

The difference will be wether or not we win the close games.

Hot sports prediction

Yeah, I have little doubt we'll have a hard time closing out games. We're young and inexperienced. We'll probably lead in 50+ games, but we'll probably go .300 in close games simply because we don't have the experience to close it out.

I can see us winning anywhere from 33-48 games because of that. Just depends on how quickly our offense can come together with DSJ and how healthy we can stay.

SMC0007 · 09-14-2017, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Yeah, I have little doubt we'll have a hard time closing out games. We're young and inexperienced. We'll probably lead in 50+ games, but we'll probably go .300 in close games simply because we don't have the experience to close it out.

I can see us winning anywhere from 33-48 games because of that. Just depends on how quickly our offense can come together with DSJ and how healthy we can stay.

Yea, for sure. It seems like DSJ can get almost anywhere he wants with the ball so if he can knock down late free throws, we definitely have an edge over last year. Noel helping out on defense with his quick hands and potential rim protection should be a nice bump too. We had a very rough start last year and things came around, I just have an extremely hard time seeing how we start in that type of hole again, Even with some youth and inexperience.

Male30Dan · 09-14-2017, 03:21 PM

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Yeah, I have little doubt we'll have a hard time closing out games. We're young and inexperienced. We'll probably lead in 50+ games, but we'll probably go .300 in close games simply because we don't have the experience to close it out.

I can see us winning anywhere from 33-48 games because of that. Just depends on how quickly our offense can come together with DSJ and how healthy we can stay.

Anywhere from 33 to 48 games huh? I see you're hugging the trunk and not even facing towards the limb.

SMC0007 · 09-14-2017, 03:25 PM

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Anywhere from 33 to 48 games huh? I see you're hugging the trunk and not even facing towards the limb.

2nd prediction was going to be 0-82 wins range with a solid 'give or take' a cpl games.