2011 First Round Poll: Mavs vs. Blazers - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Fragism · 04-14-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mary

I think the Mavs will be lucky to see a 6th game.

If the Mavs lose I don't think it'll be anything less than 6 games. If they took a 50 win Spurs team last season to 6 games with Erick Dampier averaging a single point per game then they can surely take this Blazers team to 6 games.

LonghornDub · 04-14-2011, 12:03 PM

Some stats:

PPG
Mavs 100.2 (11th), Blazers 96.3 (24th)

Opponent's PPG
Mavs 96.0 (10th), Blazers 94.8 (7th)

FG %
Mavs 47.5% (5th), Blazers 44.7% (24th)

Opponent's FG %
Mavs 45% (8th), Blazers 46.7% (20th)

Point Differential
Mavs +4.2 (8th), Blazers +1.5 (12th)

OSUmavsfan · 04-14-2011, 12:04 PM

The Mavs need to protect their home court. The Blazers are not a good road team (18-23) and they were even one of the few teams that lost to the Dirk-less Mavs. If the Mavs win the first 2 at home, I think their confidence will be up and they'll steal one of the next two in Portland and win in 5. If not, I think it goes 7 and the Mavs still win.

OSUmavsfan · 04-14-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Some stats:

PPG
Mavs 100.2 (11th), Blazers 96.3 (24th)

Opponent's PPG
Mavs 96.0 (10th), Blazers 94.8 (7th)

FG %
Mavs 47.5% (5th), Blazers 44.7% (24th)

Opponent's FG %
Mavs 45% (8th), Portland 46.7% (20th)

Point Differential
Mavs +4.2 (8th), Blazers +1.5 (12th)

Wow I didn't know the Blazers were that weak on offense. Hopefully the Mavs can limit Aldridge at least a little bit. I feel like him scoring so easily really opened things up for the rest of the team the last few times Dallas played them. Having both Haywood and Chandler this time will hopefully help in that regard.

muzak · 04-14-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Some stats:

PPG
Mavs 100.2 (11th), Blazers 96.3 (24th)

Opponent's PPG
Mavs 96.0 (10th), Blazers 94.8 (7th)

FG %
Mavs 47.5% (5th), Blazers 44.7% (24th)

Opponent's FG %
Mavs 45% (8th), Portland 46.7% (20th)

Point Differential
Mavs +4.2 (8th), Blazers +1.5 (12th)

I'd be interested to see those numbers post-Wallace trade and post-Butler injury.

LonghornDub · 04-14-2011, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by muzak

I'd be interested to see those numbers post-Wallace trade and post-Butler injury.

I don't think I have any easy way of getting that (nor would I venture to take the time to do so), but I can tell you the Blazers are 16-9 (64%) since the Wallace trade. So, definitely playing some good ball, but let's not act like they've been some unstoppable force.

They will be very hard to beat in Portland, though.

OSUmavsfan · 04-14-2011, 12:27 PM

Since the All-Star break (so including a couple games without Wallace) the Blazers have scored 96.5 ppg and shot 45.2%, which both still ranked in the bottom third of the league. So it seems their offense didn't get appreciably better. I couldn't find defensive splits and I don't have time to look right now, but maybe I'll try to find them later.

Edit: The Blazers give up 93.3 ppg and 46.9% shooting since the all-star break. That defensive ppg is really good, but defensive fg% is surprisingly bad. They must really limit the number of possessions to give up that few points on such a high fg%.

muzak · 04-14-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I don't think I have any easy way of getting that (nor would I venture to take the time to do so), but I can tell you the Blazers are 16-9 (64%) since the Wallace trade. So, definitely playing some good ball, but let's not act like they've been some unstoppable force.

They will be very hard to beat in Portland, though.

No doubt they're beatable. Should be some good games regardless.

jthig32 · 04-14-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OSUmavsfan

Wow I didn't know the Blazers were that weak on offense. Hopefully the Mavs can limit Aldridge at least a little bit. I feel like him scoring so easily really opened things up for the rest of the team the last few times Dallas played them. Having both Haywood and Chandler this time will hopefully help in that regard.

Their PPG is a little misleading because they play at such a slow pace, but they're definitely not a great offensive team.

mavs777 · 04-14-2011, 01:12 PM

Portland is in the bottom 5 of the league in defensive rebound rate, Dallas is 25th in offensive rebound rate. be interesting to see how that plays out

LonghornDub · 04-14-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Their PPG is a little misleading because they play at such a slow pace, but they're definitely not a great offensive team.

Yeah, and it's ranked exactly the same as their FG%.

Dirkadirkastan · 04-14-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Portland is in the bottom 5 of the league in defensive rebound rate, Dallas is 25th in offensive rebound rate. be interesting to see how that plays out

Theoretically, both teams would be strong on the glass when Portland puts up a shot and weak when Dallas puts up a shot.

Windmill360 · 04-14-2011, 03:16 PM

If the Mavs take care of business and win the first two at home then I think we take the series. Portland isn't good enough to make the adjustments being down 0-2 IMO. If we lose one of these home games then I think we'll be out. Don't get elated after just one win.. look what happened with SA last year and I knew we'd be doomed after that second game loss.

Dirkadirkastan · 04-14-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

If the Mavs take care of business and win the first two at home then I think we take the series. Portland isn't good enough to make the adjustments being down 0-2 IMO. If we lose one of these home games then I think we'll be out. Don't get elated after just one win.. look what happened with SA last year and I knew we'd be doomed after that second game loss.

I'm pretty sure the Mavs weren't doomed after Game 2.

mkat · 04-14-2011, 03:29 PM

As a fan, I wanna say Mavs in 7...maybe 6. But as a realist, I see Portland just out playing them. Sadness.

mkat · 04-14-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OSUmavsfan

Wow I didn't know the Blazers were that weak on offense. Hopefully the Mavs can limit Aldridge at least a little bit. I feel like him scoring so easily really opened things up for the rest of the team the last few times Dallas played them. Having both Haywood and Chandler this time will hopefully help in that regard.

the next time the mavs "limit aldridge" will be the first in a while.

Windmill360 · 04-14-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

I'm pretty sure the Mavs weren't doomed after Game 2.

On paper, a series tied 1-1 shouldnt spell doom for anyone. But this isn't just any ole team were talking about. This was the Mavs vs their instate rivals who have a nack for losing the first game of the first round in a playoff series and come back to win it. I'm no gypsy wizard or anything but I had a gut feeling the spurs weren't just going to lay down after that loss and sure enough they came back strong and brought the series back to Dallas up three games to one the very next Monday. Now you might say anyone could have predicted that, but I've watched enough games between those two teams to know how they would react. Portland doesn't have that same instinct that SA has, but you don't want to give a team that's already boasting with confidence against us anything to add to that. You put them away in the first two games.

Dirkadirkastan · 04-14-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

On paper, a series tied 1-1 shouldnt spell doom for anyone. But this isn't just any ole team were talking about. This was the Mavs vs their instate rivals who have a nack for losing the first game of the first round in a playoff series and come back to win it. I'm no gypsy wizard or anything but I had a gut feeling the spurs weren't just going to lay down after that loss and sure enough they came back strong and brought the series back to Dallas up three games to ontne the very next Monday. Now you might say anyone could have predicted that, but I've watched enough games between those two teams to know how they would react. Portland doesn't have that same instinct that SA has, but you don't want to give a team that's already boasting with confidence against us anything to add to that. You put them away in the first two games.

Sure, losing Game 2 was bad. But the Mavs had plenty of opportunities to take Game 3 as well as Game 4. They lost in the end, but it was not pre-destined by any means.

Underdog · 04-14-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mkat

the next time the mavs "limit aldridge" will be the first in a while.

Considering he scored 35, 25 and 30 the first three times we played Portland, I'd say the 18 points with 0 free throw attempts in 35 minutes that we held him to the last time we played the Blazers would qualify as "limiting Aldridge."

Keeping him under 20 PPG would be huge for the Mavs.

LetsGoMavs · 04-14-2011, 03:37 PM

Seriously, what's wrong with all you pessimistic bitches?

Mavs are gonna take this in six games ...

CadBane · 04-14-2011, 03:39 PM

I hate playing in Portland. Annoying ass fans that boo every call, it's Utah bad. Really, really, really important for the Mavs to hold serve and win games 1 & 2.

mavs777 · 04-14-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Considering he scored 35, 25 and 30 the first three times we played Portland, I'd say the 18 points with 0 free throw attempts in 35 minutes that we held him to the last time we played the Blazers would qualify as "limiting Aldridge."

Keeping him under 20 PPG would be huge for the Mavs.

I highly doubt that is doable, I think it is more important we keep guys like Fernandez and Roy in check.

fluid.forty.one · 04-14-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

I hate playing in Portland. Annoying ass fans that boo every call, it's Utah bad. Really, really, really important for the Mavs to hold serve and win games 1 & 2.

If people thought Golden State was nuts... I would lose one of the first two games and have to go in there to win one.

If we HAVE to, I'd say that game 4 is much more winnable than game 3. Either way, the Rose Garden is going to be crazy.

fluid.forty.one · 04-14-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Fluid, I think I'm gonna hit up game 4. It's really the only viable option since it's the only wknd game in Portlandia.

You probably didn't see me bitching in the other thread. I have a gig during game 1 (will not be able to watch any of this game), class during game 2 (will skip, even though its a final review day), final during game 3 (will finish early to not miss any of the game, but won't be able to leave in time to get tickets and drive down there) and a memorial to go to during game 4 (will not be able to watch any of this game, let alone go to it).

FML.

CadBane · 04-14-2011, 03:54 PM

You guys better get in a fight with some Portland fans!

fluid.forty.one · 04-14-2011, 03:57 PM

I will at some point during this week.. probably not during a game.

If it goes to 6 I may be able to go and who knows what will happen.

mkat · 04-14-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LetsGoMavs

Seriously, what's wrong with all you pessimistic bitches?

Mavs are gonna take this in six games ...

you watched the playoffs the last few years?

LonghornDub · 04-14-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

You guys better get in a fight with some Portland fans!

Count on it.

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

You probably didn't see me bitching in the other thread. I have a gig during game 1 (will not be able to watch any of this game), class during game 2 (will skip, even though its a final review day), final during game 3 (will finish early to not miss any of the game, but won't be able to leave in time to get tickets and drive down there) and a memorial to go to during game 4 (will not be able to watch any of this game, let alone go to it).

FML.

Weak sauce for sure. But you'll make up for it at Game 6.

Bayliss · 04-14-2011, 04:34 PM

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If the Mavs take care of business and win the first two at home then I think we take the series. Portland isn't good enough to make the adjustments being down 0-2 IMO. If we lose one of these home games then I think we'll be out. Don't get elated after just one win.. look what happened with SA last year and I knew we'd be doomed after that second game loss.

Since 2006, the Mavs have won 1 road game. And that was to the Manu-less" Spurs.

The Mavs suck on the road (in the playoffs)... so winning the first two at home is critical.

LonghornDub · 04-14-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Since 2006, the Mavs have won 1 road game. And that was to the Manu-less" Spurs.

The Mavs suck on the road (in the playoffs)... so winning the first two at home is critical.

Two road games against the Manu-less Spurs.

Bayliss · 04-14-2011, 05:18 PM

Either way it has been pitiful.

They have lost to Sa last year at home and couldn't win a road game. They lost at home against Denver and couldn't win a road game. They lost at home to the Hornets and then couldn't win a road game. They lost at home to GS and couldn't win a road game.

It's been frustrating. The first two games are critical to the Mavs. For such a good road team in the regular season, thy have sucked in the playoffs at "stealing one."

Mavsfan4ever · 04-14-2011, 05:21 PM

Kidd even seems to have more spring in his step no pun intended going into the playoffs then in years past.

monty55555 · 04-14-2011, 05:35 PM

I think Mavs in 6.

I apologize if this has already been posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faiCIR9P1Ns

Love the video. So awesome.

Go Mavericks!!!

rabbitproof · 04-14-2011, 05:43 PM

Man, Mavs really messed up nationally.

Abbott described Portland as having won the "Dallas Lottery".

Mavs need to represent.

LonghornDub · 04-14-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Either way it has been pitiful.

They have lost to Sa last year at home and couldn't win a road game. They lost at home against Denver and couldn't win a road game. They lost at home to the Hornets and then couldn't win a road game. They lost at home to GS and couldn't win a road game.

It's been frustrating. The first two games are critical to the Mavs. For such a good road team in the regular season, thy have sucked in the playoffs at "stealing one."

I agree with "frustrating," for sure. Pitiful? I dunno. Some of the individual effort were pitiful (especially a couple of those NO and Denver road games), but they lost Games 3 and 4 in SA last year by a combined total of like 7 points. I'm not ready to call that pitiful across the board.

I do agree that they need to figure out how to steal one or two at some point if this is gonna be a significant playoff run.

rabbitproof · 04-14-2011, 06:04 PM

I'm just worried about the first bad 6-10 minute stretch. Mentally the Mavs need to get past a dryspell on their end or a hot run by the Blazers. Strong leadership, consistent defense and rebounding will help but with all the talk and the past playoff torture, it'll be obvious if the Mavs have ghosts in their ear. If their heads start drooping, dragging their feet to timeouts, yelling at each other and quiet on defense, I might turn off the set early.

Gotta keep the heads up, keep talking to each other, the hand/butt/back slaps. Remember you're a 57 win team, the past is the past, you can actually play defense this year and punch back.

LonghornDub · 04-14-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Man, Mavs really messed up nationally.

Abbott described Portland as having won the "Dallas Lottery".

Mavs need to represent.

He also picked the Mavs to win (in 7).

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2011...zers-mavericks

rabbitproof · 04-14-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

He also picked the Mavs to win (in 7).

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2011...zers-mavericks

True but I think that comment was more indicative of what the rest of the basketball community thinks of Dallas amongst the tops seeds vs. Abbott himself. He does describe Dallas as being the most desirable top seed to play in the BS report.

Mavsfan4ever · 04-14-2011, 06:20 PM

Hollinger picking Portland in six does not surprise me. I've never seen a more anti Mavs guy in the media.

xrobx · 04-14-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavsfan4ever

Hollinger picking Portland in six does not surprise me. I've never seen a more anti Mavs guy in the media.

out of over 37,000 people who voted on the fan poll on espn.com, 56 percent pick the blazers to beat us. the general consensus is that we will lose. so it's not just hollinger this time

plus he's a blazers fan