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Old 11-23-2020, 05:37 AM   #1121
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I see some of you didn't quite know what a gem you're getting with Luka. His doings in Europe were just as spectacular as they are now in the NBA. It's mostly nothing we haven't seen before. He even played more carelessley in Europe, because not everything was in his hands as it is now. His plays were therefore sometimes much sassier.
And further more, Real Madrid is a basketball powerhouse in Europe. Like Lakers in NBA, if they haven't been out of conference finals for the past 15 years. Yep. That's how powerful Real Madrid is. A win is always expected. Every year Euroleague title is a goal, not a dream. And Luka carried their team at 18 years old.

And In Europe sport enthusiasts area different breed than in the States. You don't switch teams you root for, in soccer people have fights and riots all the time. It's not just about having an evening off and a bit of fun, it's real rivalry.
If judges would judge like they do in NBA, they would have special units escorts when exiting the stadiums. That's how hard core sports are over here in Europe.

So yeah, Luka is pretty amazing.
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Old 11-23-2020, 05:38 AM   #1122
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I see some of you didn't quite know what a gem you're getting with Luka. His doings in Europe were just as spectacular as they are now in the NBA. It's mostly nothing we haven't seen before. He even played more carelessley in Europe, because not everything was in his hands as it is now. His plays were therefore sometimes much sassier.
And further more, Real Madrid is a basketball powerhouse in Europe. Like Lakers in NBA, if they haven't been out of conference finals for the past 15 years. Yep. That's how powerful Real Madrid is. A win is always expected. Every year Euroleague title is a goal, not a dream. And Luka carried their team at 18 years old.

And In Europe sport enthusiasts area different breed than in the States. You don't switch teams you root for, in soccer people have fights and riots all the time. It's not just about having an evening off and a bit of fun, it's real rivalry.
If judges would judge like they do in NBA, they would have special units escorts when exiting the stadiums. That's how hard core sports are over here in Europe.

So yeah, Luka is pretty amazing.
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Old 11-23-2020, 07:08 AM   #1123
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I see some of you didn't quite know what a gem you're getting with Luka. His doings in Europe were just as spectacular as they are now in the NBA. It's mostly nothing we haven't seen before. He even played more carelessley in Europe, because not everything was in his hands as it is now. His plays were therefore sometimes much sassier.
And further more, Real Madrid is a basketball powerhouse in Europe. Like Lakers in NBA, if they haven't been out of conference finals for the past 15 years. Yep. That's how powerful Real Madrid is. A win is always expected. Every year Euroleague title is a goal, not a dream. And Luka carried their team at 18 years old.

And In Europe sport enthusiasts area different breed than in the States. You don't switch teams you root for, in soccer people have fights and riots all the time. It's not just about having an evening off and a bit of fun, it's real rivalry.
If judges would judge like they do in NBA, they would have special units escorts when exiting the stadiums. That's how hard core sports are over here in Europe.

So yeah, Luka is pretty amazing.
You're totally correct. I only follow the NBA, so I had never heard of Luka until the Mavericks traded for him. But as I said earlier in this thread, I've watched as much as I can find of him on youtube playing for Real Madrid and Team Slovenia, and I'm 100% convinced that anyone who didn't think he was a superstar didn't actually watch him. He was absolutely jaw-dropping. He was probably the greatest basketball prospect since Lebron, and yet we all thought he was just some decent player.

Some people might think this is extreme bias, but I think comparisons to Magic Johnson and Larry Bird are absolutely warranted. He's that level of all-time talent. I do not throw those comparisons around lightly. Some people might scoff at that, but his personal statistics and accomplishments so far in his young career are absolutely comparable. I think he will end his career with multiple MVPs and multiple championships. I'm just crossing my fingers hoping it will happen with the Mavericks.

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Old 11-24-2020, 04:43 AM   #1124
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You're totally correct. I only follow the NBA, so I had never heard of Luka until the Mavericks traded for him. But as I said earlier in this thread, I've watched as much as I can find of him on youtube playing for Real Madrid and Team Slovenia, and I'm 100% convinced that anyone who didn't think he was a superstar didn't actually watch him. He was absolutely jaw-dropping. He was probably the greatest basketball prospect since Lebron, and yet we all thought he was just some decent player.

Some people might think this is extreme bias, but I think comparisons to Magic Johnson and Larry Bird are absolutely warranted. He's that level of all-time talent. I do not throw those comparisons around likely. Some people might scoff at that, but his personal statistics and accomplishments so far in his young career are absolutely comparable. I think he will end his career with multiple MVPs and multiple championships. I'm just crossing my fingers hoping it will happen with the Mavericks.

I think, that it is not visionary to say Luka will be a HOF if he is healthy.. I think it's visionary to say Luka won't be a HOF if he is healthy.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.. But based what he has accomplished so far.. Are there any HOF players who actually accomplished less in whole career than Luka did in just 2 years? What is the threshold to call him a HOF player?

Regarding comparisons here is my 2 cents:
It's okay when you are comparing numbers, style of play or sth like that.. But when you say Luka is the next Lebron .. I hate this so freaking much.. He's not the next Lebron.. He's the next Luka. Period.

But I don't completely disagree with Skip and Smith type of analytics before he was drafted.. Yes, we already knew he was great before he was drafted in NBA. And yes, we already knew he will be good in NBA. But no one (before his rookie year) knew how good he will actually became as an NBA player..

And now? Well.. We still don't know what his ceiling is... If he can get his 3pt percentage and FT percentage up.. And if he can be just a little bit better in defense in his prime years... Then I don't know.. We may just be looking someone who is better than MJ and Lebron ever was.

HOWEVER: If he stays in Dallas.. And if Cuban won't get him a championship contender team.. Then all this we are thinking of him - all videos, statistic analysis or whatever is for nothing..

If Luka stays in Dallas and if he does not become a champion multiple times, he will never become one of the all time greats.

So.. Cuban and Donnie.. No pressure.. I don't know.. I want him to stay in Dallas.. I want the Mavs to become champions.. But I (or we from Slovenia) would be devastated if he would stay just because of loyalty as Dirk did.. What do you think about that? Honestly..
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I think, that it is not visionary to say Luka will be a HOF if he is healthy.. I think it's visionary to say Luka won't be a HOF if he is healthy.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.. But based what he has accomplished so far.. Are there any HOF players who actually accomplished less in whole career than Luka did in just 2 years? What is the threshold to call him a HOF player?

Regarding comparisons here is my 2 cents:
It's okay when you are comparing numbers, style of play or sth like that.. But when you say Luka is the next Lebron .. I hate this so freaking much.. He's not the next Lebron.. He's the next Luka. Period.

But I don't completely disagree with Skip and Smith type of analytics before he was drafted.. Yes, we already knew he was great before he was drafted in NBA. And yes, we already knew he will be good in NBA. But no one (before his rookie year) knew how good he will actually became as an NBA player..

And now? Well.. We still don't know what his ceiling is... If he can get his 3pt percentage and FT percentage up.. And if he can be just a little bit better in defense in his prime years... Then I don't know.. We may just be looking someone who is better than MJ and Lebron ever was.

HOWEVER: If he stays in Dallas.. And if Cuban won't get him a championship contender team.. Then all this we are thinking of him - all videos, statistic analysis or whatever is for nothing..

If Luka stays in Dallas and if he does not become a champion multiple times, he will never become one of the all time greats.

So.. Cuban and Donnie.. No pressure.. I don't know.. I want him to stay in Dallas.. I want the Mavs to become champions.. But I (or we from Slovenia) would be devastated if he would stay just because of loyalty as Dirk did.. What do you think about that? Honestly..

I agree totally with both of you! Luka is his own man and will be amazing if nothing spectacularly bad happens.

There are 2 basketball halls of fame. One is The Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame or more like NBA Hall of fame, and then there is FIBA Hall of fame. Fiba is the international basketball association, all national teams area part of that association. Euroleagues is, but NBA is not.

For the FIBA HoF I think he has done more than enough to get in. But for Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame I think he has a lot yet to accomplish since this HoF only looks at NBA accomplishments. And I don't know which count. He has like a dozen of youngest ever, second youngest in history types of accomplishments. But they probably don't count.
The ones that do are:
Rookie of the Year
All Star
Playoffs
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I don't think that's enough for HoF.
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But I (or we from Slovenia) would be devastated if he would stay just because of loyalty as Dirk did.. What do you think about that? Honestly..
There is a ticking time bomb in Dallas. Either Cuban and Donnie get a championship here during Luka's first 2 contracts or Luka will be a Laker
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There is a ticking time bomb in Dallas. Either Cuban and Donnie get a championship here during Luka's first 2 contracts or Luka will be a Laker
Because? Lakers franchise were a shit show for years until LeBron Made a business decision and also brought in other klutch player with amazing tampering.

LeBron is gone in 5 years
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It's okay when you are comparing numbers, style of play or sth like that.. But when you say Luka is the next Lebron .. I hate this so freaking much.. He's not the next Lebron.. He's the next Luka. Period.
I did not say he's the next Lebron. I said he was probably the greatest basketball prospect since Lebron. Those are two very different things.
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Luka admitting he's not in perfect shape - meh. I just care about him getting his free throws knocked down. He looks like he's moving fine to me.

Also how fun is it for him to take and answer questions with perfect Spanish? And talking up his teammates and team chemistry too.
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Luka admitting he's not in perfect shape - meh. I just care about him getting his free throws knocked down. He looks like he's moving fine to me.

Also how fun is it for him to take and answer questions with perfect Spanish? And talking up his teammates and team chemistry too.
Should be lose some weight? Probably. It will reduce the severity of his injuries, will reduce the speed at which he wears down, and may net him some speed which could translate to better play.

Does he need to? It's honestly on him if he wants to. It's obviously not preventing him from reaching stardom and he may even pick up an MVP. There are just players like Jokic that are just big boys.
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I'm glad Luka admits it because it's pretty obvious. I don't care that he is a thicker player as too many miss the point. His lateral movement and how it affects injuries is the only thing I care about. I think he is learning how to work around that though and also J-Rich is going to take a lot of pressure off of him.

But also, Covid and the quick turnaround is tough to deal with. He doesn't have that extra month to get himself back into shape.
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https://youtu.be/cHXhA7nMdvE?t=10

Luka's got ups!
and his wobble and collapse afterwards and being helped up and jumping up after...
hilarious. Forever 21 in heart hopefully and continue to have fun playing and have fun with your team
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and his wobble and collapse afterwards and being helped up and jumping up after...
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https://www.slamonline.com/nba/luka-doncic-global-rise/

Headline article and cover of the Slam is about our boy right here.
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“His feet [are] slower than rush hour traffic. Really slow feet…When I look at him on tape, he struggles with quick defenders. Guys getting in his pocket, getting after him… So, his NBA comparison is Hedo Turkoglu.”

“That’s my takeaway—He doesn’t pop athletically.”

“I mean, he’s better than Ricky Rubio but he doesn’t look special to me.”

“Doncic, at 6-7, will get exposed for all of the inadequacies that Dirk had. Dirk is not a great athlete. Dirk doesn’t have explosiveness. Dirk isn’t physical. That’s what is going to happen to Doncic…I’m not saying Luka is setting the NBA world on fire—I’m not sure he’s going to be a dominating NBA player.”

“The athleticism, that’s a problem. The lack of athleticism.”

“I believe Luka should go to a good team. I don’t believe he’s a lottery pick. No, I don’t. I think he falls right outside the lottery.”

“I don’t give a damn about how this kid in Europe looked.”

“We tend to over-sensationalize European basketball. There [are] restrictions that cater to him. You can’t have nine Americans on the floor in Europe. There’s going to be nine bred Americans on the floor with you 95 percent of the time in the NBA. That changes the dynamics of the game.”

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what the hell does nine bred Americans mean? is that a real quote from some beat writer? guess i don't remember this level of clueless from before sheesh
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“His feet [are] slower than rush hour traffic. Really slow feet…When I look at him on tape, he struggles with quick defenders. Guys getting in his pocket, getting after him… So, his NBA comparison is Hedo Turkoglu.”

“That’s my takeaway—He doesn’t pop athletically.”

“I mean, he’s better than Ricky Rubio but he doesn’t look special to me.”

“Doncic, at 6-7, will get exposed for all of the inadequacies that Dirk had. Dirk is not a great athlete. Dirk doesn’t have explosiveness. Dirk isn’t physical. That’s what is going to happen to Doncic…I’m not saying Luka is setting the NBA world on fire—I’m not sure he’s going to be a dominating NBA player.”

“The athleticism, that’s a problem. The lack of athleticism.”

“I believe Luka should go to a good team. I don’t believe he’s a lottery pick. No, I don’t. I think he falls right outside the lottery.”

“I don’t give a damn about how this kid in Europe looked.”

“We tend to over-sensationalize European basketball. There [are] restrictions that cater to him. You can’t have nine Americans on the floor in Europe. There’s going to be nine bred Americans on the floor with you 95 percent of the time in the NBA. That changes the dynamics of the game.”

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what the hell does nine bred Americans mean? is that a real quote from some beat writer? guess i don't remember this level of clueless from before sheesh
I'll say it again. I guarantee that NONE of these people actually watched him. At least not more than a couple of highlights or something. A ton of his games are up on youtube, and if you watch his actual games, he was INCREDIBLE. Absolutely amazing.
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I'll say it again. I guarantee that NONE of these people actually watched him. At least not more than a couple of highlights or something. A ton of his games are up on youtube, and if you watch his actual games, he was INCREDIBLE. Absolutely amazing.
Probably true, I just assumed that most saw the potential but questioned the competition
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Bred Americans sounds pretty arrogant!
Like nobody outside of the US has a clue how to play the game.

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It’s Hard Not To Believe In Luka Dončić
By Dorothy J. Gentry

“MVP! MVP! MVP!”

A shower of cheers rained down on Luka Dončić as he walked off the court after a Dallas Mavericks victory last fall, four days before Thanksgiving. He high-fived a few fans — towel around his neck — then clapped his hands above his head and entered the tunnel as the MVP chants continued.

If he were in the familiar, comfortable confines of the American Airlines Center in downtown Dallas, the cheers and chants would have made complete sense.

But he wasn’t. He was walking off the court of the Toyota Center in Houston after he and the Mavs knocked off the Rockets, 137-123.

MVP chants in another city? Against a heated in-state rival? Rare.


Moments later, in the locker room, I asked him how that scene affected him.

“It was nice. When I hear those sounds, it’s very nice. I never imagined being called [something] like that in the NBA, and it’s just something that feels special to me.”

That was a little over a year ago. Dončić has won many more games since then and racked up awards, recognitions and honors, including starting in his first NBA All-Star Game.

If they were chanting MVP back then, it’s easy to imagine what they’re saying now: that Dončić’s third year in the NBA could very well be his MVP year.

And no one would be surprised.

The NBA.com 2020-21 GM Survey, released last Friday, has Dončić (21 percent) second only to Giannis Antetokounmpo (32 percent) to win this season’s MVP award. He also tied Antetokounmpo (43 percent) as the player GMs would start their franchise with. Caesars Sportsbook by William Hill has Dončić — who has had the No. 2 best-selling jersey this year — as the betting favorite to win MVP, and countless sports pundits and talking heads are predicting that Dončić will finish this season hoisting the trophy as the best in the league.

“Luka Dončić is going to win the MVP. … He’s the next coming of LeBron,” Jay Williams said recently on his radio show Keyshawn, JWill & Zubin. “He’s must-watch TV.”

LeBron James himself has high praise for Dončić and what he brings to the game. “Luka is one of my favorite players in the NBA,” he said on the Road Trippin’ podcast. James also revealed that he wanted to begin his Team LeBron shoe line by signing Dončić, though Dončić ultimately signed with Jordan Brand. “That’s how much I believed in him.”

The FiveThirtyEight player projection model also believes in him, expecting MVP-level output not just this season but for the foreseeable future:


The NBA believes in him too, scheduling the Mavs to play in a high-profile Christmas day game — for the first time since 2011 — against the reigning NBA champion Los Angeles Lakers on primetime television. The scheduling of that game is perhaps as much a testament to Luka’s growing popularity as it is to fans wanting to see the champs.

And who wouldn’t believe in Dončić at this point? Besides the obvious basketball skills, he’s a true kid at heart, with a great big smile and a part mischievous, part infectious personality — kicking around the basketball pregame like a soccer ball one minute, singing the lyrics to “Macarena” into the microphone during a media session the next.

That playfulness flips when the game begins, and he morphs into a fierce competitor: engineering the Mavs offense, throwing up shots, helping his teammates get buckets and showing his intense desire to win, even once tearing his jersey in half midgame — while still wearing it — to show his frustration at missing two key free throws in a battle against the Lakers; a nod to his competitive spirit.


He also displays glimpses of humbleness that make you think, “Maybe he really doesn’t understand just how big he is.”


“Luka’s an amazing player,” said Mavs rookie Josh Green. “Being his age and doing what he’s doing — it’s awesome. He’s an unselfish guy who looks like a great teammate.”

Josh Richardson, who was traded to the Mavs this offseason, met Dončić when the Slovenia native was only 16. He was working out in Santa Barbara, California, where Richardson — then a member of the Miami Heat — would spend his offseasons training.

Richardson knew right away that Dončić was a special talent.

“He walked in the gym, into the weight room that morning, and I never heard of him, never seen him,” Richardson said. “But I saw his body and how he’s built and they told me he was 16, and I was like, no way!”

“I watched him and saw his shot and how everything looked, and then when we were playing [pick-up games], it was like — just the pace,” Richardson explained.

“It’s hard to teach that, especially on a kid that was already 6’6” at 16 and 200 and however many pounds. It’s rare that you see something like that. He shot a few step backs, made a few good passes, and I was just like, he’s got it. He’s got it.”

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What is it that makes Dončić so special?

Part of his mystique is the very real fact that at a young age, he already plays at an elite level in basketball — with so much more room to improve.

“He’s 21. He’s getting better all the time,” Mavs head coach Rick Carlisle told media during his first preseason session. “His game continues to be more and more refined each year in all areas.

“He’s a special player. He’s a special person. He’s a special leader on our team,” Carlisle continued. “And I don’t know exactly what it’s going to be, but I do think you’ll see continued development and continued growth.”

As good as he’s been so far, Luka is pushing himself to be better — and as he goes, so goes the team. “I always say I want to win the championship, and that’s the goal we entered [with] last year,” he said, “and that’s the goal we’re going to enter this year [with] as a whole group.”

Luka burst onto the NBA scene in 2018 at 19 — a young but already bona fide basketball star from Slovenia. He was selected with the third overall pick by the Atlanta Hawks in the 2018 draft then traded to the Mavs in exchange for the draft rights to Trae Young and a protected first-round pick in 2019.

Average fans may not have heard of him. Even those who saw his name on mock drafts could have been forgiven for not knowing just how good he was.

But Mavs GM Donnie Nelson knew. Nelson started scouting a young Dončić two years before the 2018 draft. He knew what he saw was real. Dončić was special, would be special in the NBA and was the franchise-altering player the Mavs needed.

“He’s a winner in every sense of the word,” Nelson told Mavs.com last year just before Dončić was set to participate in the NBA’s Rising Stars game during All-Star weekend as a rookie. “There’s a maturity to his game that it seems like at every level, when he was playing as a youth and then into his mid- to late teens, he was always playing against bigger guys and getting it done against those guys.”

The Mavsalso saw a fierce competitor who is very comfortable on court; that would become apparent quickly. He won Rookie of the Year and was selected unanimously to the NBA All-Rookie First Team.

Luka’s rookie year saw the retirement of the great Dirk Nowitzki — the Mavs’ loyal franchise player who delivered the team its only championship in 2011 — who effectively handed the keys to the team to Dončić. In turn, Dončić took the keys and unlocked the door to one of the greatest sophomore seasons in the NBA.

During his second year, he joined the upper echelon of NBA players. He finished the season as the league leader in 25-point, 10-rebound, 15-assist games (five), 30-10-7 efforts (18) and 20-5-5 games (50). He was selected to his first NBA All-Star game and was named to the prestigious 2019-20 All-NBA First Team, the first player named to the All-NBA First Team in either his first or second season since Tim Duncan in 1998-99.

Dončić finished fourth in MVP voting behind eventual winner Antetokounmpo, LeBron James and James Harden, and ahead of Kawhi Leonard, Anthony Davis and Chris Paul. He also finished third in Most Improved Player voting behind eventual winner Brandon Ingram of New Orleans and Miami’s Bam Adebayo.

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2019-20 stats for the 12 NBA players to receive points in voting for the Most Valuable Player award

PER GAME
RK PLAYER AGE TEAM PTS REBS ASTS
1 Giannis Antetokounmpo 25 Bucks 29.5 13.6 5.6
2 LeBron James 35 Lakers 25.3 7.8 10.2
3 James Harden 30 Rockets 34.3 6.6 7.5
4 Luka Dončić 20 Mavericks 28.8 9.4 8.8
5 Kawhi Leonard 28 Clipplers 27.1 7.1 4.9
6 Anthony Davis 26 Lakers 26.1 9.3 3.2
7 Chris Paul 34 Thunder 17.6 5.0 6.7
8 Damian Lillard 29 Trail Blazers 30.0 4.3 8.0
9 Nikola Jokić 24 Nuggets 19.9 9.7 7.0
10 Pascal Siakam 25 Raptors 22.9 7.3 3.5
11 Jimmy Butler 30 Heat 19.9 6.7 6.0
12 Jayson Tatum 21 Celtics 23.4 7.0 3.0
SOURCE: BASKETBALL-REFERENCE.COM

He finished the regular season averaging 28.8 points, 9.4 rebounds and 8.8 assists in 61 games (all starts), making him just the third player in NBA history to average at least 28-9-8 for a full season (with Oscar Robertson and Russell Westbrook). And with Dončić creating shots for himself and his teammates, the Mavs had the most efficient offense in league history.

Dončić recorded a league-high 17 triple-doubles in 2019-20, becoming the youngest player in NBA history to lead the league outright in the category. He not only broke Jason Kidd’s Mavericks single-season triple-double record (nine in 1995-96), but he became the franchise’s all-time leader in the category as well (25). Twelve of his triple-doubles were of the 30-point variety, and he again joined Robertson and Westbrook as one of three players to record at least 12 30-point triple-doubles in a single season.

After the pandemic paused his stellar second season, Dončić and the Mavs headed to the Orlando bubble to finish out the season. It was there that he proved his ability in the clutch.

Dončić finished his first NBA playoff series — in six first-round playoff games against the L.A. Clippers — averaging 31 points (on 50 percent shooting from the field), 9.8 rebounds and 8.7 assists en route to becoming the fifth player in NBA history to average at least 30-8-8 in a playoff series (along with James, Westbrook, Michael Jordan and Robertson). Dončić was the first to do so in his first career postseason series.

And it will be hard to forget Luka’s performance in Game 4, when he hit a game-winning 3-point shot in overtime at the buzzer to tie the series.


“I remember just getting to my spot — that’s the key in the game-winners, have to get to your spot,” he said. “And … when I made it, everyone at the bench was looking at me and running toward me. It was the best feeling. After that game, I was just happy.”

The Mavs couldn’t sustain the momentum from the win, and without Kristaps Porziņģis, who missed the last three games with a knee injury, they eventually lost the series — but not before a series of much-publicized incidents that ended up serving as catalysts for the Mavs’ eventual new arrival.

In Game 3, after an altercation between Dončić and Montrezl Harrell, the Clippers big man called Dončić a “[expletive] white boy,” setting off a firestorm on social media. Harrell, now with the Lakers, received no fines or suspension, but he apologized to Dončić and was seen talking with him pregame before Game 5.

But it wasn’t just Harrell who appeared to be picking on Dončić. Fellow Clipper Marcus Morris Sr. got into the act during Game 6 when he was ejected for committing a flagrant two foul against Dončić.

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Luka Dončić hits a game-winning 3-pointer in Game 4 of the Mavericks’ playoff series against the Clippers. KEVIN C. COX / GETTY IMAGES
The name-calling and intense physicality had many wondering if other teams felt the franchise was soft and that they could push the Mavs and Dončić around. To be sure, Dončić didn’t back down nor did his teammates. But just the fact that the Clippers seemingly felt they could get away with such behavior raised a few eyebrows.

Enter Richardson, a former Philadelphia 76er who has a reputation as a “tough and gritty” player who has spent his whole NBA career in the more physical Eastern Conference. He’s a perfect fit for the Mavs — and Dončić.

“I think that a few of us coming in this year can definitely bring an aspect of hard-nosed, physical basketball,” Richardson said of the new Mavs players, a group that includes James Johnson.

“Josh Richardson is an edgy guy who’s a terrific defender,” Carlisle said. “We’ve been looking for a guy that can guard point guards and be able to score off the ball or be able to take the ball and let Luka work off the ball. And I think he gives us that kind of flexibility. He’s a guy from afar that I’ve always felt would be a really good fit with Luka Dončić.”

Dončić praised Richardson’s presence as well. “He’s an amazing player. … He brings a lot of stuff. He can shoot, he can dribble, he can guard anybody, and he brings a lot to the team. I’m really happy and we’re really happy to have him.”

When they met in California five years ago, Richardson and Dončić played pickup games and bonded over their love of soccer, and they stayed in touch over the years. Richardson said the two mesh well because they have similar personalities. “We’re very goofy off the court, but on the court, it’s business once that game starts.”

Richardson knows he has several roles on the Mavs team — toughness, leadership, defense and alleviating the pressure on Dončić. “I’m excited to play next to him because he’s one of the best playmakers in the NBA,” he said.

As he prepares for his third season in the league, Dončić hears the MVP talk but remains focused on winning a championship. All the ingredients are there — including new teammates. However, for at least the first few games of the season, he’ll be without Porziņģis, whose defense the Mavs desperately need if they hope to make any kind of real run in the postseason.

This is an opportune time for Dončić to show he has what it takes to get the young, new-look Mavs where they want to be — if not now, soon. But it starts tonight as the Mavs begin their season with a promise from Dončić.

“This season will be way better than last season.”

Somehow, you can’t help but believe him.
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Luka is 12% from three this season

He’s also 86% from the FT line and he’s getting a lot of freebies
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He’s also 86% from the FT line and he’s getting a lot of freebies
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Luka is 12% from three this season

He’s also 86% from the FT line and he’s getting a lot of freebies
I mentioned already that he has no reason to take low percentage step back threes if the rest of the team hits their threes.

His best shots are around the rim, and he gets to the line that way as well.
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He’s also 86% from the FT line and he’s getting a lot of freebies
That will come up of course, but I'm starting to believe he's going to hover in the low 30s for his whole career.
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That will come up of course, but I'm starting to believe he's going to hover in the low 30s for his whole career.
I think when he works out with KP his 3-point shooting will improve. Mark my words!
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I have no problem with Luka hovering the low 30s for his career 3P%... I mean, so has Lebron.
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I have no problem with Luka hovering the low 30s for his career 3P%... I mean, so has Lebron.
The problem is, Lebron has only taken about 4 attempts per game over his career, while Luka takes nearly 8. If Luka can't pull his percentage up, then he really should take fewer threes.

If he would just take fewer stepbacks and improve his shot selection I think he could be a decently efficient shooter, but I'm starting to feel like he's just hard wired to be a gunslinger.
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The problem is, Lebron has only taken about 4 attempts per game over his career, while Luka takes nearly 8.
That's cherry picking stats

Lebron averaged 7 3's per year last year and only shot 35%. The year before Lebron shot over 6 3's per game and shot slightly under 35%

I think Luka will get to 35% for the year and that will be fine for him
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That's cherry picking stats

Lebron averaged 7 3's per year last year and only shot 35%. The year before Lebron shot over 6 3's per game and shot slightly under 35%

I think Luka will get to 35% for the year and that will be fine for him
I'm not cherry picking anything. Looking at two years out of Lebron's entire career- that's cherry picking. And Lebron did not average 7 per last year. He averaged a little over 6 last year, and a little under 6 the year before. Now my math might be fuzzy, but last I checked, 6 is in fact less than 8, and 35% is more than 32% (Luka's career averages.)

For what it's worth though, I would be very happy with Luka averaging 35% on his career. I'm not holding my breath though. Everyone seems to just assume that he will improve that. I hope he does, but why do we assume this? Especially this season? This was the way he was in Europe, and there was no improvement from year 1 to year 2 in the NBA. He has to take fewer stepbacks, but he has shown no interest so far. He seems to think that's a really good shot.

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Giannis 28% career 3pt shooting.
Davis 32%
LeBron 34%
Westbrook 30%

Luka is in pretty good company if he shoots in the low 30s for his career.

I do agree he needs to be more selective though.
I personally think the 3 pointer is a minor piece of his arsenal and used mainly to help open up other aspects of his game like the 4 mentioned above.

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Giannis 28% career 3pt shooting.
Davis 32%
LeBron 34%

Luka is in pretty good company if he shoots in the low 30s for his career.
Again though- Both guys average about 2 attempts per game on their careers. And before I'm accused of cherry-picking- Giannis was at 4.7 last year, and AD at 3.5. If either of those guys were taking 8 a game, I think we would all see it as a problem.

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I personally think the 3 pointer is a minor piece of his arsenal and used mainly to help open up other aspects of his game.
I agree. I don't need him to be a 40% shooter. He's not Steph Curry and he doesn't need to be. 35% would be fine by me.
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30%-33% is fine-- even in high volume for me if it opens up driving lanes and keeps our offense flowing.

12-17% is not.

Really hope he can get that up or else teams are going to beg him to shoot and he'll be unable to drive.
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30%-33% is fine-- even in high volume for me if it opens up driving lanes and keeps our offense flowing.

12-17% is not.

Really hope he can get that up or else teams are going to beg him to shoot and he'll be unable to drive.
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30%-33% is fine-- even in high volume for me if it opens up driving lanes and keeps our offense flowing.

12-17% is not.

Really hope he can get that up or else teams are going to beg him to shoot and he'll be unable to drive.
I agree with the percentages but I'm not convinced that sagging off him is what teams will do. He's too crafty and intelligent to fall victim to that type of scheming, and the pNr is a massive weapon for him. Don't overlook players ego, people want to slow him down and will over play their schemes often enough. KP is going to help all of this.

I'm just ecststic that his free throw % is way up.
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He is making his mid range shots, so I'm not worried at all. He had a nice turnaround fadeaway in the Clippers game that was as sweet as pie.

If his shot was broken, then you worry. It isn't.
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He is making his mid range shots, so I'm not worried at all. He had a nice turnaround fadeaway in the Clippers game that was as sweet as pie.

If his shot was broken, then you worry. It isn't.
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I'm not cherry picking anything. Looking at two years out of Lebron's entire career- that's cherry picking. And Lebron did not average 7 per last year. He averaged a little over 6 last year, and a little under 6 the year before. Now my math might be fuzzy, but last I checked, 6 is in fact less than 8, and 35% is more than 32% (Luka's career averages.)
I'm sorry. I saw Lebron's 7 per game THIS year and made a mistake

But Lebron has been shooting a lot more 3's in recent seasons than ever before. So I >>do<< consider it cherry picking stats to bring up his career stats when his recent stats are more reflective of the modern NBA
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Luka continues to free fall when it comes to threes. He his single digits today with 9.5% shooting

When should we start to worry?

Threes open up his drive and his drive gives him the gravity he needs to be a star.

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Luka continues to free fall when it comes to threes. He his single digits today with 9.5% shooting

When should we start to worry?
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Luka continues to free fall when it comes to threes. He his single digits today with 9.5% shooting

When should we start to worry?
The bigger worry is taking the game seriously. I'm glad he has fun, but his talent comes with a responsibility that he is currently not taking seriously.

Once again, the shot isn't broken. This is entirely discipline/mentality/game shape related IMO.

And to be fair, the rest of the team is just not good enough for Luka to not be great every night.
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