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dirt_dobber · 02-19-2007, 09:39 AM

By ART GARCIA
Star-Telegram Staff Writer
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/ba...s/16732507.htm

LAS VEGAS -- Potentially the tensest moment of Sunday's All-Star Game never materialized.

Dirk Nowitzki and Dwyane Wade didn't greet one another as the Western and Eastern Conference starters met at Thomas & Mack Center midcourt circle just before the opening tip.

Each bumped fists and man-hugged with just about every starter out there. Somehow, Nowitzki and Wade missed sharing pleasantries.

Surprised?

Wade criticized Nowitzki's leadership skills, saying, "The reason they [the Mavericks] lost the [NBA] championship [is] because he [Nowitzki] wasn't the leader that he's supposed to be in the closing moments."

The two franchise cornerstones hadn't communicated with each other since, including the first two days of All-Star weekend despite being in the same room on several occasions.

"I don't have nothing against Dirk," Wade said. "Dirk don't have nothing against me. He said something about my team. I said something to back my team. It wasn't personal."

That's a matter for debate. Questioning someone's leadership skills is about as personal as it gets and Nowitzki privately took offense. Not one to forget it, Nowitzki has taken the high road publicly.

"To me, it's over now," he said before the West's 153-132 victory. "There's really nothing to talk about. We both did our talking and I think we're past that now.

"I haven't spoken to him. I haven't seen him. If he were to come up to me, I'd be more than willing to say something about it. But if not, I don't worry about it."

Maybe that chat comes Thursday when the Heat make their only American Airlines Center visit of the regular season.

The Mavs won 99-93 at Miami last month.

Nowitzki's no-brainer

West coach Mike D'Antoni didn't choose Dirk Nowitzki an All-Star starter to earn any brownie points with Mavericks fans.

Not having Steve Nash available made the choice academic.

"I don't mind upsetting anybody in Dallas," said D'Antoni, also the Suns' coach. "I just picked [Nowitzki] because he's playing better than anybody. There could have been a problem if Steve could have played. I probably would have upset some people in Dallas then."

Though his support for Nash is unwavering, D'Antoni said Nowitzki is the MVP favorite over the two-time winner.

"His team is the best right now," D'Antoni said. "You can definitely make that argument, but we'll have to wait until the year is out and see what team ends up best."

The NBA-leading Mavs (44-9) come out of the break leading Phoenix (39-13) by 4 1/2 games. D'Antoni said he isn't sure the Mavs can be caught, especially because they've won 30 of their past 32 games.

"If they would cooperate every once in a while and lose, but they don't lose," he said. "We're not going to catch them if they don't lose. We have to keep Steve healthy, get Kurt Thomas back. And if we catch them, we catch them. If we don't, we'll meet them later."

dirt_dobber · 02-19-2007, 09:40 AM

hyperbole

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 09:57 AM

Swoosh!

kg_veteran · 02-19-2007, 10:03 AM

I threw up in my mouth a little bit when Steve Kerr said something on the broadcast to the effect of, "Wade sort of put the feud to rest the other day..."

Put the feud to rest? You mean the one he created out of thin air?

Dim499 · 02-19-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dirt_dobber

"I don't have nothing against Dirk," Wade said. "Dirk don't have nothing against me. He said something about my team. I said something to back my team. It wasn't personal."

So really, how ridiculous is this statement? He said something to back his team? Not once did he mention his team. He said Dirk choked and wasn't a leader. So how is that not personal? Isn't that the definition of personal? He said nothing to back his team. He could have said Miami had a great team, yet he agrees with Dirk by saying Dallas wasn't good enough in the closing moments.
Man, this guy is all about getting respect. I swear if Cowlishaw had not written the "The Heat are not worthy" article the Mavs would have probably swept them. And now Wade even looks like the bigger man by stealing Dirk's "I'm not going back and forth" line.

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 10:28 AM

Hold me back! Hold me back! Coz I'ma kill him!!!

Dirkadirkastan · 02-19-2007, 10:34 AM

Dirk never participated in this "feud" at any given time. Wade threw a punch and now he's running.

Usually Lurkin · 02-19-2007, 10:36 AM

When contrived "feuds" are a bigger story than the game, you've got one more way that the NBA is like the WWE

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Dirk never participated in this "feud" at any given time. Wade threw a punch and now he's running.

Damn right!!! Dirk acted all classy over Wade's BS, and now he's gonna say that he has put it in the past just because he's an effn p*ssy! Dang! What a fruitcake mofo! Now where was I? Oh yeah.. "Hold me back! Hold me back! I'ma kill him!!!"

purplefrog · 02-19-2007, 10:57 AM

Not to mention the fact that Dirk made his statement 8 months ago. What took D-idiot so long to respond? Is he just now realizing what Dirk said?

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 11:11 AM

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Not to mention the fact that Dirk made his statement 8 months ago. What took D-idiot so long to respond? Is he just now realizing what Dirk said?

Took him months to think of a comeback. Wow! Lame.

Lame Team, fake Champs, the one who, as they say, " LED" the team is a big p*ss... what more could you ask for? Makes me sick

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 11:28 AM

Dirk saying that the Mavs "gave" the series away and the Heat didn't "win" is a slap in the face. Maybe you all don't see it that way, but people outside Dallas city limits see things differently.

Dallas didn't "give" anything away....The Heat took the championship and Wade stood up and lead his team to 4 Straight Victories. Dirk not giving credit where credit is due upset Wade and I (and many others) can honestly see why. Wade worked too hard to have the other team's superstar not to give credit. Dallas lost a 2-0 lead and never won another game in the series. Wade willed his team win it mattered most

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 11:34 AM

Oh shat! Here we go again!

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-19-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dirt_dobber

By ART GARCIA
Star-Telegram Staff Writer
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/ba...s/16732507.htm

"If they would cooperate every once in a while and lose, but they don't lose," he said. "We're not going to catch them if they don't lose. We have to keep Steve healthy, get Kurt Thomas back. And if we catch them, we catch them. If we don't, we'll meet them later."

Yeah and hey Mike, if you go out in the first round because of health, it's your fault for running your players to death and setting up a team that will always somehow have an mvp since you choose to have aboslutely no depth. Why don't you just play four players, so that when one of them gets injured, the world can see why that forth player is MVP, because four players is a lot easier to play with than three.

Oh yeah and btw, Mavs>Suns anyway you would like to spin it

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mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 11:45 AM

Dude, chill!

haha

sike · 02-19-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Dirk never participated in this "feud" at any given time. Wade threw a punch and now he's running.

he is looking a little yellow on this...

Underdog · 02-19-2007, 12:33 PM

Haha - we're sitting here getting pissed & stewing over DWade's continued remarks while Dirk continues to rise above the drama by simply not giving a damn... I guess Wade's publicist forgot to call Dirk's publicist before they decided to get all Paris-Britney on us...

purplefrog · 02-19-2007, 12:38 PM

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Dirk saying that the Mavs "gave" the series away and the Heat didn't "win" is a slap in the face. Maybe you all don't see it that way, but people outside Dallas city limits see things differently.

Dallas didn't "give" anything away....The Heat took the championship and Wade stood up and lead his team to 4 Straight Victories. Dirk not giving credit where credit is due upset Wade and I (and many others) can honestly see why. Wade worked too hard to have the other team's superstar not to give credit. Dallas lost a 2-0 lead and never won another game in the series. Wade willed his team win it mattered most

Seriously, don't you think it is odd that Wade would bring this up at this point in time? If there was going to be a "feud" it should have been over the summer after Dirk made his remark. Why now?

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 12:41 PM

Answer that! Hmm...

capitalcity · 02-19-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDiggler

Dirk saying that the Mavs "gave" the series away and the Heat didn't "win" is a slap in the face.

And the truth.

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Maybe you all don't see it that way, but people outside Dallas city limits see things differently.

No. People living in Dade Co. see it differently.

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Dallas didn't "give" anything away....The Heat took the championship and Wade stood up and lead his team to 4 Straight Victories.

By shooting un-warranted FTs.

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Dirk not giving credit where credit is due upset Wade and I (and many others) can honestly see why.

Me too. He's a Vagina.

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He knows he' Wade worked too hard to have the other team's superstar not to give credit. Dallas lost a 2-0 lead and never won another game in the series.

Exactly what he's confirmed with his "backing his team statements". Dallas Lost.

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Wade willed his team win it mattered most.

I.E. when the whistle blew.

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 12:45 PM

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Seriously, don't you think it is odd that Wade would bring this up at this point in time? If there was going to be a "feud" it should have been over the summer after Dirk made his remark. Why now?

There really isn't a feud.....Dirk made his comments, Wade felt he needed to respond.

It's over. Wade said what he said because he felt Dirk was discrediting the win. The Heat won 4 in a row......there is no "GIVE AWAY" there.

capitalcity · 02-19-2007, 12:50 PM

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It's over.

It's not over.

Dirk will finish it on Thursday.

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 12:54 PM

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It's not over.

Dirk will finish it on Thursday.

and admire the fact that D Wade is a champion

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 12:55 PM

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And the truth.
No. People living in Dade Co. see it differently.
By shooting un-warranted FTs.
Me too. He's a Vagina.
Exactly what he's confirmed with his "backing his team statements". Dallas Lost.
I.E. when the whistle blew.

Thank you....you've made my points relevant

purplefrog · 02-19-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDiggler

There really isn't a feud.....Dirk made his comments, Wade felt he needed to respond.

It's over. Wade said what he said because he felt Dirk was discrediting the win. The Heat won 4 in a row......there is no "GIVE AWAY" there.

But why do you think he waited 8 months to respond?

capitalcity · 02-19-2007, 12:57 PM

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Wade said what he said because he felt Dirk was discrediting the win.

Wrong again.

He's tired of hearing everybody from national commentators, to various NBA personnel, to joe-youtuber, discrediting the "win".

So instead of maning up to the criticism, he broke off a Vagina Monologue.

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 12:58 PM

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But why do you think he waited 8 months to respond?

I believe the suject was brought back up in a interview.....who knows. Dirk said what he said and Wade has every right to give his opinion.....whether it's two days or 12 months ago. Just my opinion

capitalcity · 02-19-2007, 12:59 PM

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You've made my points relevant.

Roadkill.

capitalcity · 02-19-2007, 01:00 PM

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...who knows.

Not you.

dirno2000 · 02-19-2007, 01:00 PM

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I threw up in my mouth a little bit when Steve Kerr said something on the broadcast to the effect of, "Wade sort of put the feud to rest the other day..."

Put the feud to rest? You mean the one he created out of thin air?

I picked that up too. Almost like he was saying "Dwayne wade was the bigger man here since he put it to rest". My first thought was: what the hell? He started this thing out of nowhere, then to make himself look better he hides behind the shield of "i'm protecting my team".

I do agree with Galloway's general premise that Wade's comments will ultimately help the Mavs. For whatever reason, it seems that Miami is in Dirk's head. He hasn't played with that edge we're used to seeing when he's on top of his game. The fist pump and the evil snare have been absent against this team. I'm confident that we'll see it Thrusday.

mary · 02-19-2007, 01:01 PM

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I believe the suject was brought back up in a interview.....who knows. Dirk said what he said and Wade has every right to give his opinion.....whether it's two days or 12 months ago. Just my opinion

What people like you and those like you (and by that I mean people that lack basic skills of comprehension) fail to understand, is that Dirk's comments had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Miami Heat.

Zero.

Zilch.

Its not Dirk's fault there are stupid people in the world.

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 01:01 PM

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Wrong again.

He's tired of hearing everybody from national commentators, to various NBA personnel, to joe-youtuber, discrediting the "win".

So instead of maning up to the criticism, he broke off a Vagina Monologue.

So Dirk never said, "We gave the series away" ?

He never said that? Come on! That that biggest discredit you can give. Dirk believed that his team was better and had no business losing to the Heat, but reality is that he lost 4 in a row! I guess he should have done something about it.....maybe he'll get another chance this summer

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 01:04 PM

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What people like you and those like you (and by that I mean people that lack basic skills of comprehension) fail to understand, is that Dirk's comments had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Miami Heat.

Zero.

Zilch.

Its not Dirk's fault there are stupid people in the world.

mary.....everyone outside Ft Worth, Arlington and Dallas are retards. We all "read into" everything....even when it's blatant. You guys are in a bowl broken dreams and hopes lol

mary · 02-19-2007, 01:05 PM

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So Dirk never said, "We gave the series away" ?

He never said that? Come on! That that biggest discredit you can give. Dirk believed that his team was better and had no business losing to the Heat, but reality is that he lost 4 in a row! I guess he should have done something about it.....maybe he'll get another chance this summer

If Wade had such a problem with Dirk's statement, then why did he agree with it?

That's what is REALLY stupid about this. Wade was SOOO HURT by Dirk's comments that he came back and agreed with him.

Not that I expect you to comprehend that either.

TheDiggler · 02-19-2007, 01:07 PM

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If Wade had such a problem with Dirk's statement, then why did he agree with it?

What? Why would Wade agree with Dirk? That's silly. Find the quote, with the link.

mary · 02-19-2007, 01:08 PM

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mary.....everyone outside Ft Worth, Arlington and Dallas are retards. We all "read into" everything....even when it's blatant. You guys are in a bowl broken dreams and hopes lol

How old are you?

No school today?

mary · 02-19-2007, 01:09 PM

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What? Why would Wade agree with Dirk? That's silly. Find the quote, with the link.

I don't have to find the link. Look it up yourself.

Its obvious.

Dirk said they gave the series away.

Wade said the reason they lost was because Dirk wasn't a leader.

Both gave credit to the Mavs for the outcome of the series.

Its really not that hard.

dirno2000 · 02-19-2007, 01:10 PM

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mary.....everyone outside Ft Worth, Arlington and Dallas are retards. We all "read into" everything....even when it's blatant. You guys are in a bowl broken dreams and hopes lol

I don't think this is true. I've read many national columns that talked about how the Mavs gave away the title. In fact, I'll bet if I visit whatever board that you post on, there are multiple references to Dallas "choking" in the finals. Implicit in that statement is that Dallas was the better team and the only way they could lose would be to choke.

mqywaaah · 02-19-2007, 01:11 PM

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and admire the fact that D Wade is a champion

Bollocks!!! I want to slap someone

FINtastic · 02-19-2007, 01:11 PM

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So really, how ridiculous is this statement? He said something to back his team? Not once did he mention his team. He said Dirk choked and wasn't a leader. So how is that not personal? Isn't that the definition of personal? He said nothing to back his team. He could have said Miami had a great team, yet he agrees with Dirk by saying Dallas wasn't good enough in the closing moments.
Man, this guy is all about getting respect. I swear if Cowlishaw had not written the "The Heat are not worthy" article the Mavs would have probably swept them. And now Wade even looks like the bigger man by stealing Dirk's "I'm not going back and forth" line.

Wade's quote reminds me of a scene from Life of Brian where a crowd has decided that Brian is the messiah and so they are talking to Brian's mother, Mandy -

YOUTH: Excuse me.
MANDY: Yes?
YOUTH: Are you a virgin?
MANDY: I beg your pardon!
YOUTH: Well, if it's not a personal question, are you a virgin?
MANDY: 'If it's not a personal question'? How much more personal can you get? Now, piss off!