12-19-2022, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BPo001
Too bad Hardy isn?t here to play the rest of the game.
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Absolute shit front office
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12-19-2022, 09:53 PM
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This is the worst reffing in the history of the NBA, but it still doesn't discount the bad coaching and lack of talent management.
THJ is out so they send Hardy to the G League when we're starved for offense.
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12-19-2022, 09:55 PM
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Some of these foul calls are soft so I can understand why Luka is upset. Totally one sided.
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12-19-2022, 09:58 PM
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Yea I?ll give the refs have been absolute ass. But Luka?s overall play and attitude has been ASS tonight. Most everyone brushed it off in another thread, but you can?t actually watch the games where he puts this pouty shit on and blame anyone else. LeBron may have incessantly bitched at refs, but he always plays hard when I watch him. I cannot say the same for Luka now going on 3 games I can remember this season.
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12-19-2022, 09:58 PM
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Bush league
Fuck Kidd
Fuck Cuban
Fuck whiny ass Luka
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12-19-2022, 10:03 PM
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2-5
Pathetic
Luka doesn?t want to be here
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12-19-2022, 10:04 PM
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Down 20 with a few minutes left would be good Hardy minutes but we?re totally ass as a franchise so there?s not even garbage minutes to celebrate
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12-19-2022, 10:05 PM
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I'm just happy we're developing Frank Ntilikina into the player he was 4 years ago.
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12-19-2022, 10:08 PM
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DFS injured. Wemby!!
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12-19-2022, 10:09 PM
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Tank commander Luka!
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12-19-2022, 10:15 PM
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Emptying the bench
Too bad it?s just for broke down vets
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12-19-2022, 10:17 PM
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Frank has no business being on a NBA roster. The guy is god awful.
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12-19-2022, 10:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
I'm just happy we're developing Frank Ntilikina into the player he was 4 years ago.
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Absolute waste of a roster spot.
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12-19-2022, 10:18 PM
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Geez, squad is dropping like flies. Expect some Hardy mins on the wrap around Wednesday. That?s about all I?ll tune in for, that or Nuke Luka taking out aggression.
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12-19-2022, 10:19 PM
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Gotta force Minny to above .500 so our tank can succeed
Wolves 16-15
Mavs 15-16
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12-19-2022, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by saclare
Geez, squad is dropping like flies. Expect some Hardy mins on the wrap around Wednesday. That?s about all I?ll tune in for, that or Nuke Luka taking out aggression.
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We?d rather waive Hardy to sign Enes Kanter than develop a young guy
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12-19-2022, 10:21 PM
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Curious the crickets in Wood?s defense?he had some spot moments showing flashes of some post presence and shot altering (maybe a block or two). But not great when Naz fuckin Reid goes for almost 30. He also got caught on a smaller switch a couple times committing fouls. Not gonna let that sneak by here when everyone is taking shots.
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12-19-2022, 10:24 PM
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Mavs now have a 0.8% chance of Wemby
3.8% chance of keeping the 2023 pick
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12-19-2022, 10:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Bush league
Fuck Kidd
Fuck Cuban
Fuck whiny ass Luka
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Weren't you just saying the other day everyone was complaining about the team too much? You seem to change your mind every game after every loss and talk about other people being negative.
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12-19-2022, 10:40 PM
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Points in the paint:
Mavs - 16
Wolves - 50
I know we are short-handed, but at some point this FO needs to come to its senses on our dismal frontcourt situation.
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12-19-2022, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JustJay
Weren't you just saying the other day everyone was complaining about the team too much? You seem to change your mind every game after every loss and talk about other people being negative.
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Are you saying my points are wrong or just talking shit about me?
Do you disagree that the Mavs fanhood (myself included) is toxic?
Seems like you just want to insult me individually which is against DM protocols
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12-19-2022, 10:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saclare
Curious the crickets in Wood?s defense?he had some spot moments showing flashes of some post presence and shot altering (maybe a block or two). But not great when Naz fuckin Reid goes for almost 30. He also got caught on a smaller switch a couple times committing fouls. Not gonna let that sneak by here when everyone is taking shots.
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People think I hate Wood but IMO he's our best option to get better this year via trade
If your not got going to play him next a defensive mind Big then your just asking for trouble defensively
This team more than anything needs a rim protecting big if they want to salvage this season and in order to get that Wood is your best trade chip
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12-19-2022, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Are you saying my points are wrong or just talking shit about me?
Do you disagree that the Mavs fanhood (myself included) is toxic?
Seems like you just want to insult me individually which is against DM protocols
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The collective toxicity is a reflection of the disillusionment and panic setting in on the fact that the roster is going backwards 5 years into the Luka era. Cuban is incompetent to run a FO. Spewing toxic thoughts is a form of venting. What good is this board if not a place to exchange thoughts and do some good ole fashion blowing off of steam. It's not like we are going to have any ability to change the direction of the team if we just all stay positive exude confidence. From a glass half empty perspective I have zero confidence they would be able to succeed in any sort of rebuild even if Luka is traded for a haul in a year or two. I can also tell you definitively that I along with a lot of people I converse with would be out for the long haul if the Mavs lose Luka.
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12-19-2022, 11:02 PM
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Who is excited for the rematch Wednesday?
No Green
No DFS
No Maxi
No Powell
Maybe THJ
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12-19-2022, 11:12 PM
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Interesting comments that Luka, Dinwiddie and Josh Green might be the only guys on this roster not trade bait
per Tim Cato of The Athletic, the Mavs brass is high enough on one player in particular that they?re ?hesitant? to include him in trade talks. That player is none other than third-year guard Josh Green, who has shown flashes of the dynamic play the Mavs could utilize alongside Luka Doncic.
?My understanding is that the Mavericks would be very hesitant to trade Green at this point. One person in the front office told me that he considered him the team?s third-most important player after Doncic and Dinwiddie,? Cato wrote.
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12-19-2022, 11:14 PM
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DFS with a similar injury to Siakam
Siakam missed 10 games
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12-19-2022, 11:25 PM
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Cuban will use these injuries as the excuse for the team playing like garbage. Not expecting anything good to happen to this roster in the next two years.
Usually I?d be pissed but at this point I?m just exhausted watching this same roster be the same garbage we?ve watched for years. Jalen/Luka would?ve thrived and now he?s busy being a leader in NY while Luka wastes away with one of the oldest teams in the league.
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12-20-2022, 12:20 AM
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Green, Powell and Thj aren't fixing this shit. They need a mini overhaul. JfC. This has been bad at best and down right terrible all season.
Luka sucks defensively. It's hard to hide him when building out the rest of the SLU.
Derek Harper sucks.
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12-20-2022, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
Green, Powell and Thj aren't fixing this shit. They need a mini overhaul. JfC. This has been bad at best and down right terrible all season.
Luka sucks defensively. It's hard to hide him when building out the rest of the SLU.
Derek Harper sucks.
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Luka is attitudinal and only plays defense when things are flowing and people are hitting the offensive looks he gives them. His defensive instincts are actually great when his give-a-shit is on point. There is a reason he is blowing away Green et al in most defensive metrics. Luka's D not the problem - his being surrounded by a team of bad NBA players is. If Green had half of Luka's defensive instincts and understanding of the game he would actually be above average on D but as it is Josh Green is extreme hustle and virtually No understanding of where he should be positioned on D
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12-20-2022, 09:01 AM
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Luka was playing hurt from the get-go. You could tell he was hobbled. He stubbornly stayed in and made mistake after mistake.
But I and others predicted this would happen. That Luka would be run down by mid season because the FO doesn't understand talent management in the least.
Luka has an attitude problem, sure, but he has to carry this say sack team every night. It just isn't sustainable.
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12-20-2022, 09:41 AM
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Shut down Luca. For once take a long-term view of roster building. Sell Bull, THJ, Wood, Powell, Maxi, if possible. Start fresh with a young and hungry roster, and a young and hungry coach.
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12-20-2022, 01:50 PM
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Maxi is done right? I mean he had surgery I don?t see how he comes back
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12-20-2022, 02:18 PM
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Maxi is done right? I mean he had surgery I don?t see how he comes back
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They said something like 2 months or so. I could see him coming back late February or March.
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12-20-2022, 02:25 PM
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Retraction...
Kidd said it was similar to Middleton's in 2016 where he missed 6 months.
With surgery, Maxi is likely done for this season.
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12-20-2022, 02:25 PM
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From what I'm reading, others with the same injury were out for 4 months. Pretty sure he is out for the season.
Doesn't matter. Season is over anyway.
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12-20-2022, 05:04 PM
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They said something like 2 months or so. I could see him coming back late February or March.
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. Saw the retraction
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12-20-2022, 05:10 PM
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At 30 and almost 7 feet, I half wonder if Kleber will ever return
Out at least the rest of the season
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12-20-2022, 05:40 PM
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. Saw the retraction
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Yea, my bad! Thought I just edited the original...
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12-21-2022, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
Interesting comments that Luka, Dinwiddie and Josh Green might be the only guys on this roster not trade bait
per Tim Cato of The Athletic, the Mavs brass is high enough on one player in particular that they?re ?hesitant? to include him in trade talks. That player is none other than third-year guard Josh Green, who has shown flashes of the dynamic play the Mavs could utilize alongside Luka Doncic.
?My understanding is that the Mavericks would be very hesitant to trade Green at this point. One person in the front office told me that he considered him the team?s third-most important player after Doncic and Dinwiddie,? Cato wrote.
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It's hard for me to believe Green and Dinwiddie are untouchable.
If Mavs are looking LT then I can see Green as virtually untouchable, but Dinwiddie should be somewhat available.
If Mavs are looking ST then I can see Diwiddie as virtually untouchable, but Green should be somewhat available.
This is the half-assed approach that has us in the position we are in right now.
And I sound like a broken record, but they have to address this frontcourt mess ASAP. We have no playable defensive-oriented bigs on this team now that Maxi is out.
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12-21-2022, 12:35 PM
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Luka is attitudinal and only plays defense when things are flowing and people are hitting the offensive looks he gives them. His defensive instincts are actually great when his give-a-shit is on point. There is a reason he is blowing away Green et al in most defensive metrics. Luka's D not the problem - his being surrounded by a team of bad NBA players is. If Green had half of Luka's defensive instincts and understanding of the game he would actually be above average on D but as it is Josh Green is extreme hustle and virtually No understanding of where he should be positioned on D
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Fair. Saying Luka sucks on defense is casting a wide net. But from the aspect of, if you are getting blown by, and not recovering and making your rotations on time, you ultimately suck.
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