Official Dirk is Great Thread

[ceelowdream]

I think the rebounds are there. Haven't noticed a fall off.

[JamesVE]

Originally Posted by dude1394

That's why he out-rebounded anyone on the nuggets team last night. Slacker...

Anomaly. You won't find Dirk doing that night-in and night-out

Originally Posted by CadBane

Odd timing. He had 8 last night, including a number of traffic boards. By the way, his DRR% is higher than Pau and Amare's. His rebounds are down due to reduced minutes, injuries, and age. He's still a good defensive rebounder, especially in the big games.

Well, stats are nice, and I realize part of this is due to the injury/timing. But last year he was averaging ~7 a game, and I remember telling my friends last year that it's all downhill from here as I could see he didn't even really try last year either. Bottom line, this is a 7 footer we're talking about with no athletic drop-off from his younger days. It's a pure effort thing - and he gets a pass for whatever reason.

Originally Posted by ceelowdream

I think the rebounds are there. Haven't noticed a fall off.

Again, this is a more than adequately athletic 7 footer pulling in under rebounds a game. That's 2 guard territory there

Look, guys, I love Dirk as much as the next guy. But this is one thing I refuse to be a homer about or put blinders on. If you just watch the game you can tell he doesn't TRY to rebound. He does NOT put the effort in consistently. Hell, he's normally running back down the court as soon as a shot is put up (and didn't we all get screamed at by our high school coaches for that?). Watching the games you can tell that a good 70-80% of his rebounds are the kind that literally just bounce right to him.

You almost NEVER see Dirk truly battling for a rebound or working to get in position for one. Yes, I know you guys can throw out the occasional 8-9 rebound game from him. But just admit it, the dude doesn't put in the effort to rebound like he should be capable of. I'm just stating the obvious. This dude should have always been averaging double-digit rebounds yet never has been able to. It seems to me he's always gotten a pass on this from Mavs-land.

The main reason this irritates me is that his lack of rebounding effort - when he could easily have a lifetime 10+ rebounding average - plays a big part in his "soft" label nationally. He CAN do it, he just doesn't.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by JamesVE

Anomaly. You won't find Dirk doing that night-in and night-out .

Must spread reputation around before you deduct it from this knucklehead again. Get that crap outta this thread.

[JamesVE]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Must spread reputation around before you deduct it from this knucklehead again. Get that crap outta this thread.

Sorry, don't even know what your reputation bit there means.

I said it's an anomaly that Dirk outrebounded each individual player on the opposing team. You say that my saying that is "crap".

Pretty sure that, by and large, the high rebounder in a game on any given night in the NBA is usually ~10 (most times higher).

Yet Dirk averages UNDER 7 rebounds a game. Pretty sure that means that the dude does NOT outrebound the other team night-in and night-out.

Dirk ranks 53rd in rebounding.

So, uhh, yeah... don't really see how I'm wrong here. I guess that makes me a knucklehead for stating the obvious.

[tsar]

Originally Posted by JamesVE

Sorry, don't even know what your reputation bit there means.

I said it's an anomaly that Dirk outrebounded each individual player on the opposing team. You say that my saying that is "crap".

Pretty sure that, by and large, the high rebounder in a game on any given night in the NBA is usually ~10 (most times higher).

Yet Dirk averages UNDER 7 rebounds a game. Pretty sure that means that the dude does NOT outrebound the other team night-in and night-out.

Dirk ranks 53rd in rebounding.

So, uhh, yeah... don't really see how I'm wrong here. I guess that makes me a knucklehead for stating the obvious.

To be fair; Dirk does have some really good rebounders around him so he doesn't have to bang as much if we were a really small team. Anything he can do preserve himself is fine with me.

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by JamesVE

Sorry, don't even know what your reputation bit there means.

I said it's an anomaly that Dirk outrebounded each individual player on the opposing team. You say that my saying that is "crap".

Pretty sure that, by and large, the high rebounder in a game on any given night in the NBA is usually ~10 (most times higher).

Yet Dirk averages UNDER 7 rebounds a game. Pretty sure that means that the dude does NOT outrebound the other team night-in and night-out.

Dirk ranks 53rd in rebounding.

So, uhh, yeah... don't really see how I'm wrong here. I guess that makes me a knucklehead for stating the obvious.

You can't look at raw rebound numbers you mental midget! Yes, Dirk's rebounds are down because of age/injuries/minutes. But he is still a good defensive rebounder. He has never, and will never be a big offensive rebounder because that's not what we need him to do. Defensive rebounding is what Dirk does, and he still does it pretty well. Higher DRR% than Amare, Pau, Aldridge, etc.

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by CadBane

You can't look at raw rebound numbers you mental midget! Yes, Dirk's rebounds are down because of age/injuries/minutes. But he is still a good defensive rebounder. He has never, and will never be a big offensive rebounder because that's not what we need him to do. Defensive rebounding is what Dirk does, and he still does it pretty well. Higher DRR% than Amare, Pau, Aldridge, etc.

Why can't you ever make your point without doing this? Honestly. People would like 500x better and listen to you more often.

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Why can't you ever make your point without doing this? Honestly. People would like 500x better and listen to you more often.

Because he's an idiot troll so he got an idiot troll retort.