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kg_veteran · 08-22-2003, 05:14 PM

Who thinks that either Quincy Carter or Chad Hutchinson has a future in this league as a starter?

If you do, please post and state only which guy you think has a future. I really don't care why you think it. I just want to be able to ridicule you in the not-so-distant future. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

Dooby · 08-22-2003, 05:18 PM

As if 5 threads on Dallas QB's on the first page weren't enough.

Neither of these guys have the potential to be starters in this league.

kg_veteran · 08-22-2003, 05:24 PM

Dooby, I'm determined to get to the heart of the matter. If someone thinks they do have that potential, I want to know. If they don't, then WTF is everyone arguing for?

FINtastic · 08-22-2003, 05:58 PM

Q has a future to be the 20th - 25th best QB in the league. I don't think he will ever be one of the top 10 best QB's, but I think he can be okay. I've got the balls to step up and vouch for my guy. Call me out if you want.

Drbio · 08-22-2003, 06:35 PM

It's simple really. They BOTH suck! It's not hard. it's just one dumbass who can't take any criticism of his favorite player that is not getting this fact.

FilthyFinMavs · 08-22-2003, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by: FINtastic
Q has a future to be the 20th - 25th best QB in the league. I don't think he will ever be one of the top 10 best QB's, but I think he can be okay. I've got the balls to step up and vouch for my guy. Call me out if you want.

I agree. I think he can be a top 30 qb which doesn't say much but it means that he is atleast better than all second stringers or some for that matter. I think Carter has improved and I have faith in Parcells that if he gives Quincy 1 playbook to learn and stick with it he might end up being a top 30 qb. Parcells obviously sees something in the guy.

mavsfanforever · 08-22-2003, 08:51 PM

I would not pick either of them for my fantasy team even in the 17 round.

I do not think either of them have a future and I wouldn't be surprised if the cowboys get either a veteran qb next year or probably draft a qb. I heard next year's draft has a lot of good QBs.

Big Boy Laroux · 08-22-2003, 05:57 PM

wait, the dallas QBs suck? i swear i've heard that somewhere before...

mavsfanforever · 08-22-2003, 10:23 PM

I have reached a stage where Hutch and Qcarr discussion is giving me headache. I will blindly trust Bill's decision now.

EricaLubarsky · 08-28-2003, 09:33 PM

not me

OutletPass · 08-29-2003, 12:28 AM

neither, kg. Simple as that.

Tony tha Mavs fan · 08-29-2003, 12:58 AM

I think Hutch can be a starter, only because of his strong arm. Sacks are usually dependant on how good the Offensive line is.. Chutch is trying to rebuild his football career and was thrown into the NFL too soon, a guy who hasn't played football in 3 years usually isn't a starter for any NFL team.

I think it's possible Quincey can be an effective player in the NFL, he's just gotta get a tighter spiral, and lift alot of weights.

kg_veteran · 09-08-2003, 03:27 PM

Bump to allow any of the three that answered in the affirmative a chance to gracefully retract.

FilthyFinMavs · 09-08-2003, 03:41 PM

I won't change my statement over 1 game. Thats idiotic. I'll happily change my statement after 15 games from now.

Ummmmm Ok · 09-08-2003, 03:37 PM

Right now, I have seen enough of Quincy to say that he is not starter QB material. I would have to go with Hutch strictly because he knows how to throw a football, unlike Quincy. If Hutch can just figure out how to tuck the ball and just take the sack.

dirno2000 · 09-08-2003, 03:44 PM

Kordell Stuart, Jeff Blake and Jake Plummer are starters in this league. Why couldn't they be? It's still too early to tell. Look at yesterday's box scores and you will see, Dallas doesn't have the market cornered on bad quarterbacking. In in the Dale Hanson school of opinion. It's too early to tell. In the words of the great Jim Mora (not a great coach, but a quote machine) "You think you know, but you don't know".

dirno2000 · 09-08-2003, 03:56 PM

The question was do they have futures as starting QB's in the league, not future All Pro's. My point is that about half the guys in the league "suck". Somebody has to start.

I was at that game yesterday and I didn't see anything to make me say he can't be a starting QB. He made some good throws and he made some bad throws. He is now in the perfect situation (at least has close as he will have). If at the end of the year he hasn't shown he can move the offense the Cowboys will move on.

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 04:48 PM

Chad Hutchinson has no future in the league AT ALL, the guy cant beat out a rookie for the backup job. Lets not try and save face here guys, and keep it real. You sing his praise and he lets you down time and time again, its that simple. Dont try and save face, admit you were wrong and move on. The guy is garbage, and he earned that title. Romo beat him out for the backup job for heavens sake.

Drbio · 09-08-2003, 04:54 PM

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Chad Hutchinson has no future in the league AT ALL, the guy cant beat out a rookie for the backup job. Lets not try and save face here guys, and keep it real. You sing his praise and he lets you down time and time again, its that simple. Dont try and save face, admit you were wrong and move on. The guy is garbage, and he earned that title. Romo beat him out for the backup job for heavens sake.

Where is that broken record pic? Can you not see that criticism of Qshitty has nothing to do with Hutch being a bad quarterback with questionable potential? You keep pulling this statement and others like it clean out of your ass in a pathetic attempt to change the flow of the conversation. We haven't let you do that yet, so why do you think we would let you now?

Some people think Hutch has a future. Some think Qshitty has a future. Neither has done a single thing to show us that either one can be a serviceable qb in the NFL. They both suck ass. But when we concentrate on Qspare (since he is the starter and deserves more time) please don't try to make it all about Hutchispare.

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 04:51 PM

On the other hand, QUINCY CARTER earned the starting job with good play. Something quite a few people around here said he wouldn't do, correct?

kg_veteran · 09-08-2003, 05:05 PM

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On the other hand, QUINCY CARTER earned the starting job with good play.

As Collingsworth succinctly pointed out yesterday afternoon, there's a big difference between playing well in the preseason and playing well during the season. Carter just can't do the latter. Come on, pal. To use your words, "Don't try and save face; admit you were wrong and move on."

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Something quite a few people around here said he wouldn't do, correct?

Address posters directly if you're going to make accusations.

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 05:06 PM

I couldnt agree more FFM, he will get little to no props at all.

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 05:12 PM

I dont name drop like that, its classless.

Drbio · 09-08-2003, 05:15 PM

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I dont name drop like that, its classless.

Translation: I pull comments out of my ass with no basis.

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 05:27 PM

And I definiely don't insult people just to get a kick out of others and better my arguments, I was raised better than that.

Murphy3 · 09-08-2003, 05:30 PM

i like insulting people. it makes the insignificant people feel even more insignificant...nothing like kicking a man while they're down.... and I don't like to let them get back up.

kg_veteran · 09-08-2003, 05:34 PM

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Smartest thing I've read in a while.

... so what good does it do to constantly bitch about EITHER of these two QBs? They're both bad, Carter is better right now, and Hutch's best chance will come with some more ballcap & clipboard time anyway, so what more can be squeezed from the situation? Who gives a FFFFFFF anymore?

Two possible outcomes:
1) Pleasant surprise, the Cowboys win 7 or 8 games. Still need a long term QB. Preferably one who never played minor league baseball. Draft one or sign one.
2) We suck, get a high draft pick. Still need a long term QB. Preferably one who never played minor league baseball. Draft one or sign one.

I agree with everything you said.

Also, I probably wouldn't talk about Carter at all but for the fact that QCar, FFM, and the rest I've identified in this thread think he has a future. As long as they continue to tout his potential, ability, etc., I'll continue to point out Carter's worthlessness, in obnoxious fashion if necessary. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

kg_veteran · 09-08-2003, 05:35 PM

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i like insulting people. it makes the insignificant people feel even more insignificant...nothing like kicking a man while they're down.... and I don't like to let them get back up.

Classic.

Why not kick a man when he's down? His head will never get closer to your foot.

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 05:48 PM

Whats insulting people over the internet on a message board murphy3? LOL, I mean really what is that? It means nothing, anyone can hide behind a computer and be tough. The thing is though kg, when he was having good game after good game in the preseason, you had little to nothing at all to say. Why is that? Who cares if it was just preseason, a good game is a good game. Like the guys said yesterday, preseason is different but a good game is a good game. You, like some of the others who has came out of the woods when he has had a bad game and has ALOT to say. It's pathetic, honestly it really is. I cannot give an analysis on his season, until AFTER the season and that wont change until his season is done.

kg_veteran · 09-08-2003, 05:57 PM

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The thing is though kg, when he was having good game after good game in the preseason, you had little to nothing at all to say. Why is that?

A quick review of the posts in this section would reveal that I congratulated Carter when he played well and won the starting job, but I stated all along that he sucks. I've been consistent throughout in my opinion of him, while giving him credit when he has played well.

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Who cares if it was just preseason, a good game is a good game. Like the guys said yesterday, preseason is different but a good game is a good game. [q/]

Is that really what you're going to hang your hat on? A good preseason? Talk about pathetic.

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You, like some of the others who has came out of the woods when he has had a bad game and has ALOT to say.

You're completely myopic. I stated in the preseason that he sucked, even when he was playing well. I didn't "come out of the woods" (the phrase is "come out of the woodwork").

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It's pathetic, honestly it really is.

What, that I would persistently state the truth to illustrate just how wrong you and other Carter supporters are? Sorry, but if you can't handle it, you might as well leave, because I'll be ripping Carter every time he plays poorly this season. I'll give him credit where it's due as well, but I'm fairly confident I'll be doing a lot more criticizing than praising.

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I cannot give an analysis on his season, until AFTER the season and that wont change until his season is done.

If you'd like to leave the message board until the season is over, then I'll meet you back here around the 1st of January and we can discuss how terrible Carter's season was. But if you plan to stick around, then I'm going to be here every week, stating the obvious, since you can't seem to see it.

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 06:14 PM

OK, answer this kg, did you have as much to say when he was having good game after good game? And I am sure you have had that song written for awhile,(while you may or may not admit it is another thing) why are you just now posting it? Is it because he never gave you a reason to, because we playing well? Or is, you had little to nothing at all to say after those particular games? Well, surely you didn't have as much as you are saying right now.......................

Drbio · 09-08-2003, 07:58 PM

Qsparefan is unable to answer direct questions. pathetic.

kg_veteran · 09-08-2003, 08:37 PM

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OK, answer this kg, did you have as much to say when he was having good game after good game?

What, are you just going to start repeating questions now? I've already answered this.

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And I am sure you have had that song written for awhile,(while you may or may not admit it is another thing) why are you just now posting it? Is it because he never gave you a reason to, because we playing well? Or is, you had little to nothing at all to say after those particular games? Well, surely you didn't have as much as you are saying right now.......................

I know you're going to be truly amazed at my talent and wit, but I wrote that song approximately two minutes before I posted it. I mean, I realize how damn good it is, and it looks like I must have spent a really long time on it, and waited for just the right time to post it. But in reality, it was just sort of a spur of the moment thing.

By the way, you've really got me pegged. Up until now, Carter was just SO good that I couldn't say anything bad about him. Oh wait......I've been talking about how bad he sucks for a long time now. Guess that blows your theory...

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 08:40 PM

What questions did he ask drbio? I don't mind answering his questions, but I don't care to reply to some others questions because I get tired of insults and what not. And I have some questions in my posts I would like to get answered, but do they? Some do, and some don't but that's to be expected.

Drbio · 09-08-2003, 08:48 PM

I was referring to your inability to answer my Parcells Superiority Hypothesis question in the other thread.

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 08:52 PM

I bet

Drbio · 09-08-2003, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by: QCarFan
I bet

If you don't want the answer don't ask. It's moronic at best. Now, can you answer teh damn question or will you continue to ignore it like you ignore all facts?

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 09:12 PM

What questions? The ones in between each of the insults you throw out there? No, thanks it's a waste of my time and yours.

Drbio · 09-08-2003, 09:15 PM

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What questions? The ones in between each of the insults you throw out there? No, thanks it's a waste of my time and yours.

It's no waste of time. Except to you because it will expose you as a dumbass. If you would just buck up and admit you made conflicting statements, I'll let it drop. Until then, be prepared to have me ride your ass on every post you make because you won't take a side (a side on two of your opinions).

QCarFan · 09-08-2003, 09:26 PM

dumbass? Haha, sure bro whatever you say. I am the least bit worried about you riding my ass.