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Old 02-19-2009, 02:39 AM   #1
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Default Good grief...another race huckster!

And this time he's the Attorney General of the US.

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WASHINGTON (AP) - Attorney General Eric Holder described the United States Wednesday as a nation of cowards on matters of race, saying most Americans avoid discussing unresolved racial issues.

In a speech to Justice Department employees marking Black History Month, Holder said the workplace is largely integrated but Americans still self-segregate on the weekends and in their private lives.

"Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards," said Holder, nation's first black attorney general.

Race issues continue to be a topic of political discussion, Holder said, but "we, as average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about race."

He urged people of all races to use Black History Month as a chance for frank talk about racial matters.

"It is an issue we have never been at ease with and, given our nation's history, this is in some ways understandable," Holder said. "If we are to make progress in this area, we must feel comfortable enough with one another and tolerant enough of each other to have frank conversations about the racial matters that continue to divide us."

He told Justice Department employees they have a special responsibility to advance racial understanding.
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it seems that you have shown holder's point to be true.

someone brings up the lack of honest racial dialogue and you accuse him of being a "race huckster".

nice work.
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Oh I don't know...calling the US cowards during the middle of black history month seems a little much to me. Sorta like....a rack huckster.

Also seems a little odd that our attorney general is going to bring his personal racial thoughts into the office. Guess asians, hillbillies and latino's are kinda screwed.
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Attorney General Eric Holder described the United States Wednesday as a nation of cowards on matters of UFOs, saying most Americans avoid discussing unresolved alien-abduction issues.

In a speech to NASA employees marking National Science Month, Holder said the workplace is largely science-minded but Americans still tune out UFOs on the weekends and in their private lives.

"Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as the birthplace of Area 51, in tin-foil-related things we have always been and continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards," said Holder, nation's first attorney general to sport a tin-foil hat.

The impending alien invasion continues to be a topic of scientific discussion, Holder said, but "we, as average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about the existence of UFOs and the need to defend ourselves against them."

He urged people of all beliefs to use National Science Month as a chance for frank talk about alien-invasion matters.

"It is an issue we have never been at ease with and, given our nation's history in probing orifices, this is in some ways understandable," Holder said. "If we are to make progress in this area, we must feel comfortable enough with one another and tolerant enough of each other to have frank conversations about the forced use of anal probes that continue to divide us."

He told NASA employees they have a special responsibility to advance understanding of the impending alien invasion.
Isn't the decrease in dialogue indicative of racial identities becoming less relevant in society? And isn't that a good thing? I mean, he is the first black attorney general serving with the first black President, opposing the first black leader of the RNC. No, it must be that we're all still cowards because we're not talking about race "enough."
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Funny, growing up I never distinguised race as an issue...now, the more I hear the race card the more I have to fight to keep from stereotyping...

But it appears that I hear the race card coming more from racist personalities than I do those who are fair and balanced.

I wonder if a Black Racist is equally subjected to "Hate Crimes"?

I have a dream, it's the same dream as was described by Martin Luther King, unfortunately it appears that his dream is being destroyed by some type of diverted nightmare.

Thank you America, history is being made...however it is not a history we can be proud of...
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More on Holders comments. Put more eloquently than I.

http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/Th...-39873217.html
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The chilling and cowardly words of Eric Holder

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Attorney General Eric Holder thinks Americans are “a nation of cowards” on matters of race. This is the same Holder who kowtowed to Bill Clinton to help secure Clinton’s pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich. And the same Holder who prostrated himself to Hillary Clinton’s political ambitions by helping arrange pardons for 16 Puerto Rican terrorists. Now, he has the nerve to call the rest of us cowards, even as he speaks as the man who controls the entire federal law-enforcement apparatus? Quite simply, Holder has insulted all Americans, regardless of age or ethnicity.

Not only were Holder’s comments morally bankrupt, demonstrably untrue, and compelling proof of his own outlandish hubris; they also carried distinctly chilling undertones of government coercion. It is not the province of law enforcement chiefs to be judges and chief scolds of what their countrymen discuss. The current generation of Americans have spent half a century grappling with – and transcending – deeply rooted racial problems more extensively than any other nation in the world. President Barack Obama’s administration, with Holder its attorney general, is itself proof that Americans have more than discussed racial issues, they have voted their convictions. The glaring hubris of a man who would deem himself fit to pronounce such moral judgments on his fellow citizens is astonishing.

The context of Holder’s remarks, meanwhile, was chilling. He spoke on Wednesday not in some philosophical setting like a college graduation but in his official capacity as attorney general, to the employees at the Department of Justice. He talked of using DoJ to “creat[e] … artificial opportunities to engage one another” in conversations about race. Yet Holder also seeks to define what sorts of “conversations about the racial matters that continue to divide us” are acceptable. For instance, regarding affirmative action, he castigated those who, according to his own Olympian discernment, are “on the extremes [and] who … advance nothing more than their own, narrow self interest.”

Bizarrely, Holder criticized “the alternative [which] is to allow to continue the polite, restrained mixing that now passes as meaningful interaction.” Who is he to decide what private interactions should be “allowed”?
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The race hucksters continue their progrom.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...cle=1&catnum=0
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The head of the NAACP on Saturday urged readers to boycott the New York Post, calling a cartoon that the newspaper published an invitation to assassinate President Barack Obama.
Benjamin Todd Jealous, president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, called on the tabloid to remove editor-in-chief Col Allan, as well as longtime cartoonist Sean Delonas.

Earlier this week, the newspaper apologized to anyone who might have been offended by the image printed Wednesday, which some say likens Obama to a violent chimpanzee gunned down by police in Connecticut.

Jealous said the cartoon was "an invitation to assassination."

On Thursday, after protests by notable figures including director Spike Lee, the paper posted an editorial on its Web site saying the cartoon was meant to mock the federal economic stimulus bill, but "to those who were offended by the image, we apologize."

A spokeswoman for the newspaper referred The Associated Press to the paper's editorial when asked Saturday about the proposed NAACP boycott.

Jealous called the editorial "a half of an apology, without elaboration."

The drawing, he said, "picks off the scabs of all the racial wounds."
Sorry...you race hucksters are the ones picking scabs off of racial wounds...by making them up and trying to benefit from them.
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Could you hate black people any more than you presently do?
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Could you hate black people any more than you presently do?
I don't hate black people...don't like race hucksters nor self-important bigots.
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Oh, I see. Sorry I missed that before. It's not that you hate black people. It's that you hate the idea that black people might one day "huckster" their race to a level equivalent to your own.
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No it's that race hucksters use the accusations of racism as a club to gain political and economic advantages.
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Right. And heaven forbid black people ever get any sort of advantage on you.
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And heaven forbid that black people are allowed to succeed/fail purely on their own merit.

What a tragedy that would be. What a terrible impact that would have on their culture. Gotta keep black people in line right massa'?
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The race hucksters continue their progrom.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...cle=1&catnum=0


Sorry...you race hucksters are the ones picking scabs off of racial wounds...by making them up and trying to benefit from them.
this has nothing to do with what holder is referencing, but here's the posts' editorial in regard to the cartoon:

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Wednesday's Page Six cartoon - caricaturing Monday's police shooting of a chimpanzee in Connecticut - has created considerable controversy.

It shows two police officers standing over the chimp's body: "They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill," one officer says.

It was meant to mock an ineptly written federal stimulus bill.

Period.

But it has been taken as something else - as a depiction of President Obama, as a thinly veiled expression of racism.

This most certainly was not its intent; to those who were offended by the image, we apologize.

However, there are some in the media and in public life who have had differences with The Post in the past - and they see the incident as an opportunity for payback.

To them, no apology is due.

Sometimes a cartoon is just a cartoon - even as the opportunists seek to make it something else.
the cartoon wasn't funny, it was a poor idea. it is the post, but I'm surprised the staff thought it was good enough to even run it.

seems the public should penalize the post for their bad taste, not for any racism.
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Maureen Dowd....Racist...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/22/op...er=rss&emc=rss
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Yet Obama is oozing empathy compared with his attorney general, who last week called us “a nation of cowards” about race.

Eric Holder, who showed precious little bravery in standing up to Clinton on a pardon for the scoundrel Marc Rich, is wrong. We have just inaugurated a black president who installed a black attorney general.

We need leaders to help us through our crises, not provide us with crude evaluations of our character. And we don’t need sermons from liberal virtuecrats, anymore than from conservative virtuecrats.

In the middle of all the Heimlich maneuvers required now — for the economy, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, health care, the environment and education — we don’t need a Jackson/Sharpton-style lecture on race. Barack Obama’s election was supposed to get us past that.
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More racist folks.

http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/179...9:58&out=22:25
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you just don't get it.

these are open discussions of race in america, exactly what holder categorically said is needed.

holder is inviting the very discussion that these two engage in.
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Good thing the Washington Post can spot a racist cartoon when they see it.

Here's the article.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...36.html?sub=AR
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In a study described recently in the New York Times, men and women were shown various types of sexually explicit videos, and sensors were attached to their private parts to measure their physical arousal. The subjects were also asked to rate their degree of arousal themselves.

The study found that men were completely predictable: Straight men reported they were turned on only by images of women, and the machine confirmed that. Same with gay men and images of men. But while women of both orientations reported similarly gender-specific responses, the machine called them liars. The sensors reported that all women were turned on by absolutely everything ... including videos of bonobos having sex. Bonobos are apes.
And the cartoon.


And the apology.
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“The headline, illustration and text of “Below the Beltway,” a column in The Washington Post Magazine today, may cause offense to readers. The magazine was printed before a widely publicized incident last week in which a chimpanzee attacked and badly mauled a woman in Stamford, Conn. In addition, the image and text inadvertently may conjure racial stereotypes that The Post does not countenance. We regret the lapse.”
Good grief...have we talked enough yet?
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It's rather amusing that anyone is offended by being compared to apes/monkees...after all, isn't evolution a liberal thing. Wouldn't be an honor for those who are Democrat/Liberal to be compared to apes/monkees...isn't that were they came from?

They meaning Democrats/Liberal regardless of pigment color of their respective human flesh.

By the way, where is/was the outrage when Bush was compared to Hitler? Is that not a bit more offensive?

Then again, they are liberals (Using a Gay Lisp) and they are rather sensitive...maybe they were not created to handle such things...

This is so confusing, it's okay to use wit and make fun of people in general, provided those people are of only one race and one gender...make fun of the white male, everything else is off limits...Okay, now I understand...
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92Dad, are you REALLY that ignorant of history? or are you purposely being coy? (to some unfathomable end)

Yes, most liberals believe in evolution.... AND the implication of the fact that we evolved from apes means that the further removed from apes we are, the more evolved (and thus more human, and more in possession of those proud human traits like advanced brains and souls). The counter to this is... the less removed from apes the LESS evolved (and thus less human, and less intelligent, etc....)

in the past there were pseudo-intellectual (mostly FAUX-intellectual) attempts to claim that white people were further evolved from apes than black people (thus smarter and more human), and visual analogies were the most common and basic strategy.


but I didn't need to tell you any of this, I am sure......
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92Dad, are you REALLY that ignorant of history? or are you purposely being coy? (to some unfathomable end)

Yes, most liberals believe in evolution.... AND the implication of the fact that we evolved from apes means that the further removed from apes we are, the more evolved (and thus more human, and more in possession of those proud human traits like advanced brains and souls). The counter to this is... the less removed from apes the LESS evolved (and thus less human, and less intelligent, etc....)

in the past there were pseudo-intellectual (mostly FAUX-intellectual) attempts to claim that white people were further evolved from apes than black people (thus smarter and more human), and visual analogies were the most common and basic strategy.


but I didn't need to tell you any of this, I am sure......
Actually I am quite knowledgable of history...at least from the view that we were all CREATED...is it you that is ignorant?

Yet again another dividing point...

At the end of the day, no matter what anybody says or does, they will offend somebody.

It is up to each of us to either rise up and live our lives, or to whine and play the victim mentality.

The more the race card is played, the more power is given to those who are racist.

I personally laugh at all types of humor, some would say I have a very twisted sense of humor and even offensive sense of humor...but at least I can hold my head up high that it is my choice to live in freedom, rather than continue to be a victim.

Perhaps another comedic separated at birth picture would be to put up a picture of Obama on one slide and Pinnochio on the other slide...someday, he can grow up to be a real boy!!! Isn't there something about them running off to the circus and becoming donkeys...wait they already are...so perhaps if they start telling the truth they can stop being donkeys...(Democrats)

What a joke our nation is becoming...

I used to be a proud American...but now, it's rather difficult...perhaps her best days are behind us...the hope is fading...
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:26 PM   #22
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Yea i noticed the republican preacher on Larry King and it does look like hope is fading. I think his name is Ted Hoggard and i can see when the right is stuck between Hoggard, Rush, McCain, Lieberman, Vitter, Mitch McDonald, John Corny and Larry Craig it is hard to get a handle on things. Even Dickey Chains is upset with W for not helping some of the boyz in the pen.

Let's just hope the left doesn't take away our fishing poles.
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Awesome Link!!!

Yet another instance where "D" believe they know more than the people...force their way and ignore the consequences.

This is a tad bit more than just disturbing and troubling...

The people need to rise up in 2010...vote for people who can make a positive difference!!! Not sure who those cadidates are, yet...but we need to get rid of these Liberal Dictators who manipulate the system.
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reich's expertise is in labor economics, and the connotation of what he expressed in these hearings is that the first to be unemployed are the less skilled and lowest senority employees (young minorities).

the video clip omits the fact he also expressed his point that monies spent on increasing employment should be directed towards these worker groups. the highly skilled workers do not require retraining such as the low/non skilled young minority workforce in order to be able to find jobs.

this video clip is an example of true race baiting, taking the comments and using them to portray the speaker as being something that they are not, to incite the viewer to feel that the speaker is advocating using funds in a racially discriminatory nature.

if anyone does not understand that an education gap exists between socioeconomic/racial groups, and that a skillset gap exists between socioeconomic/racial groups, they are ignoring reality.

that is what is being expressed in the hearings, not what this video clip says.

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reich's expertise is in labor economics, and the connotation of what he expressed in these hearings is that the first to be unemployed are the less skilled and lowest senority employees (young minorities).

the video clip omits the fact he also expressed his point that monies spent on increasing employment should be directed towards these worker groups. the highly skilled workers do not require retraining such as the low/non skilled young minority workforce in order to be able to find jobs.

this video clip is an example of true race baiting, taking the comments and using them to portray the speaker as being something that they are not, to incite the viewer to feel that the speaker is advocating using funds in a racially discriminatory nature.

if anyone does not understand that an education gap exists between socioeconomic/racial groups, and that a skillset gap exists between socioeconomic/racial groups, they are ignoring reality.

that is what is being expressed in the hearings, not what this video clip says.
You can rationalize it anyway you want...but you can't argue what the video shows.

It's pure Liberal Democratic politics.

Why is the government targeting to provide welfare to one demographic at the exclusion of others?

Reich using the term "White" is flat out racist...what are there not any "White" people in poverty, in need?

What if he had used the term "Black Construction Worker" - what would the reaction be?

To rationalize this type of racist thinking from Reich and Rangel is to discredit the racial tension taking place in this nation. These two, showed in their actions to be racist bigots...and to be of such influencial positions to the President...truly alarming.
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You can rationalize it anyway you want...but you can't argue what the video shows.
well, YES, I can argue with a video that parses what wa said and doesn't include all the comments of the speaker in question.

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so if that is true, then the conclusion must be that race baiting such as this video is "pure republican politics"...

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Why is the government targeting to provide welfare to one demographic at the exclusion of others?
uh, it could be that one demographic has different needs than another demographic. pretty simple really.

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Reich using the term "White" is flat out racist...what are there not any "White" people in poverty, in need?
did he say that a poor white family would be denied any help? no? okey dokey then.

here's a hint: using the terms "white" and "black" does not make one a racist....

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the reaction would depend on the context of the remark. see, one needs to understand the connotation in order to determine the meaning.

apparently you do not desire to go to that step, you would rather decide on your own without understanding what was actually said.

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To rationalize this type of racist thinking from Reich and Rangel is to discredit the racial tension taking place in this nation. These two, showed in their actions to be racist bigots...and to be of such influencial positions to the President...truly alarming.
do you really stick your head in the sand this deep?

yikes.

come on out, reality isn't anything to be afraid of.

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