2009 NBA Offseason Thread

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

That was an idiotic Avery move in his quest to destroy this franchise. I'd be thrilled to have him back and I'm sure Howard would like it as well.

Why is Avery getting blamed for that? I mean everyone could see Marquis didn't fit into his system but i'm sure he didn't want a IR player like Croshere for him in return.

[EricaLubarsky]

Daniels has some of the weakest defense of any guard in the game, often looks lost in an offense, and even looks like he's daydreaming out there. He's a great guy at getting to the hoop and his midrange game is improved but he's one of the most one-dimensional players out there.

Btw the white joke is funny but true.

5-Nesterovic/Foster
4- Murphy/McRoberts/Hansbrough
3- Dunleavy
2-
1- Diener

As far as the all-white team, it looks like they need a starting PG, and a couple of SGs. Maybe theyd trade us Tinsley for Carroll and trade Rush/SnT Daniels for Ridnour.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Why is Avery getting blamed for that? I mean everyone could see Marquis didn't fit into his system but i'm sure he didn't want a IR player like Croshere for him in return.

2007: The year of "veteran experience". Don't you remember? Avery loved that stuff.

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by CadBane

Well yeah, quis has more offensive game than Wright. But that's like saying JJB is a better PG than Tyrone Lue.

It's different because Lue isn't our starting PG.

[Dirkenstien]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Why is Avery getting blamed for that? I mean everyone could see Marquis didn't fit into his system but i'm sure he didn't want a IR player like Croshere for him in return.

Marquise could have been better utilized but Avery had to have his veteran players and had to stay strict to his system. He was a good guard and although I liked Croshere, we shouldn't have made that trade.

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

It's different because Lue isn't our starting PG.

Yet.

[nikeball]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

Rockets could lose Yao for season—or longer

More From Adrian WojnarowskiDraft buzz: Trading game Jun 25, 2009

As the NBA draft approached, the grim truth about Yao Ming’s(notes) broken left foot hung like an anvil over the Houston Rockets. The fear isn’t that he’s just lost for next season, but longer.

The Rockets and Yao’s reps are frightened over his future, and the concern is the most base of all: Does Yao Ming ever play again?

“The realization has hit them that this is grave,” one NBA general manager said.

For now, the Rockets have privately told league peers it could be a full season before Yao might be able to return to basketball. Multiple league executives, officials close to Yao and two doctors with knowledge of the diagnoses are describing a troubling, re-fracture of his navicular bone. Three pins were inserted a year ago, but the foot cracked in the playoffs and isn’t healing.

“It sounds like he’s missing most of next season, if not the entire 82 games,” one league executive who has had recent discussions with the Houston front office told Yahoo! Sports. “That’s all that [the Rockets] will concede quietly, but they know it’s probably much worse.”

Houston general manager Daryl Morey refused comment on Monday and a team spokesman said the Rockets will not have further comment until Yao undergoes additional medical tests.

There’s no reason for the Rockets to disclose the severity of the injury, nor the uncertainty over Yao’s future. Before the Rockets go public with a dire diagnosis, they plan to send him to three more specialists this week, a source said. For now, the Rockets have season tickets and sponsorships to sell. For now, the Rockets will publicly decry these doomsday revelations as premature, but this is the reality that they’re working under within the organization.

This has turned into an impossible situation for the Rockets’ capable GM. Even if Yao plays again, Morey knows it’s just a matter of time until his lower body breaks down. His feet and ankles just can’t support the mobility of his 7-foot-6 frame.

With four surgeries in three years, the Rockets worried they were reaching a breaking point. Well, it’s here. After missing 86 games in the previous three seasons, the 28-year-old Yao missed a mere five this past regular season before injuring his foot during the Rockets’ second-round playoff series against the Los Angeles Lakers.


It wasn’t until last week when Houston issued a statement saying Yao’s fractured foot hadn’t healed properly, that he would be unavailable “indefinitely.” Prior to Thursday’s draft, Morey tried desperately to trade into the high lottery to take Spanish prodigy Ricky Rubio(notes). Houston needed a young star, but had too few assets to make a deal with Memphis or Sacramento. It seemed odd to teams that Houston had thrown Shane Battier(notes) and Aaron Brooks(notes) into offers within weeks of pushing the NBA champion Lakers to seven games in the Western Conference semifinals.


Now, the Rockets have tough decisions to make: Do they keep pushing Tracy McGrady(notes) and his expiring contract on the market or let the $22 million expire next summer? So far, Morey is getting offered bad contracts and junk talent for him. What’s more, does Houston re-sign Ron Artest(notes) to a $40 million-plus contract when contention is no longer viable? Why not create cap space for the summers of 2010 and 2011? Why not get younger now? Yao could opt out of his contract next summer, but odds are that Houston won’t so fortunate.


The Rockets should do themselves a favor and just start over. That isn’t easy in a sophisticated and rabid NBA market like Houston, but what everyone long suspected has reached fruition: Yao and McGrady are no longer a faulty foundation, but a collapsed one. Houston needs to proceed with an understanding that they’re no longer chasing the Lakers, but beginning again.

Rest assured, Houston has long been fearful that Yao’s responsibilities to the Chinese national team were rapidly contributing to his breakdown, and perhaps they’ve finally been met. Yao wouldn’t have missed the Beijing Olympics for the world, but it was clear he wasn’t fully healed in those Games. The Rockets paid a price for his nationalism, his obligation and now the darkest fears are close to confirmation: It isn’t just a season on the brink for Yao Ming, but perhaps a career.

[Dirkenstien]

Nikeball,

Sorry didn't see this post before I made the thread on the topic. Huge potential loss for Houston.

[nikeball]

haha no big deal,

Just think a lot of that is speculation, but we do know..that once big men start getting feet/leg problems they're pretty much screwed.

[DirkFTW]

Wow that sucks. I feel bad for Yao.

[Dirkenstien]

Originally Posted by nikeball

haha no big deal,

Just think a lot of that is speculation, but we do know..that once Big Men start getting feet/leg problems they're pretty much screwed.

I agree. We've been fortunate (knock on wood).

[TheMaverick]

This was how Big Z was for the longest time, but he's been healthy for the last 3 years... so you never know anymore. Advancements in medical technology can do wonders.

[dude1394]

So it looks like charlie V didn't get an offer. I'd like that dude on the team..

[MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs]

Charlie V is rumored to go to the Cavs, according to Hoopsworld.

If that's true, give the Cavs the trophy.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

Charlie V is rumored to go to the Cavs, according to Hoopsworld.

If that's true, give the Cavs the trophy.

What for, the MLE? He's a free agent so they can't offer him more than that.

[TheMaverick]

Not sure how that gives them the trophy. What they need is another spot up guy IMHO. Someone like Finley even could average 10ppg for them next year.

[Dirkenstien]

Charlie V would be a great upgrade for Cleveland with Shaq there now. He has range so he can be a kick out option and won't take up space around the basket.

[jthig32]

I have zero interest in Charlie V.

[Dirkenstien]

Originally Posted by jthig32

I have zero interest in Charlie V.

Same here. Just doesn't make sense in Dallas.

[BGMaverick9]

I don't have a link but it's on Sportscenter right now:
Michael Curry after 1 year has been fired as Head Coach of the Detroit Pistons.

[MavsFanFinley]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4297296

[MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs]

Guess they chose Rip.

[Nowitzki4President]

Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4297296

The link isn't working for me. What does it say?

[BPo001]

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Originally Posted by Nowitzki4President

The link isn't working for me. What does it say?

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I don't have a link but it's on Sportscenter right now:
Michael Curry after 1 year has been fired as Head Coach of the Detroit Pistons.

[sefant77]

Looks like Millsap and Lee are heading to OKC and Memphis.

Just the question who goes to which team. My guess Millsap OKC and Lee to Memphis.

[dirno2000]

Jazz fans are pissed that Boozer didn't opt out. I didn't realize how much they hated him. If the fans are any indication of how the organization feels Det may be able to pick him up for a second rounder.

[Dirkenstien]

Current Headlines:

Gordon and Villanueva are leaning toward deals with Detroit

Rudy Fernandez is upset the Blazers are trying to acquire Hedo

Boston is interested in Anthony Parker

Boston is pushing hard for Rasheed Wallace

The Utah Jazz will be looking to trade Boozer


...Interesting stuff.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

Current Headlines:

Gordon and Villanueva are leaning toward deals with Detroit

Rudy Fernandez is upset the Blazers are trying to acquire Hedo

Boston is interested in Anthony Parker

Boston is pushing hard for Rasheed Wallace

The Utah Jazz will be looking to trade Boozer


...Interesting stuff.

It would be even more interesting if Dallas' name appeared in that list of trade rumors...

[Flacolaco]

NBA free agency is so anti-climactic. Let them sign today.

The NHL is having a crazy fun day right now because they can actually sign today, the first day of free agency.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

NBA free agency is so anti-climactic. Let them sign today.

The NHL is having a crazy fun day right now because they can actually sign today, the first day of free agency.

Well if they made the negotiating day and signing day the same, it would be the later date, not the earlier one.

So I'm fine with the setup.

[rabbitproof]

NBA>NHL

mmm thanks

[Zki41]

Gordon and Villanueva were both just confirmed:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by Zki41

Gordon and Villanueva were both just confirmed:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111

Etroit Pistons in da house

Stuckey/Gordon
Rip/Gordon
Prince/Villa
Villa/Maxiell
Kwame

Hmmpf

[TheMaverick]

11 mil for a bench player?

Stack/Howard/Dampier for Rip/Tay/Sheed(snt)

do it.

[sefant77]

Zach for QRich nach Memphis.

Wallace is the biggest idiot, Gasol earned the same

[dirno2000]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Zach for QRich nach Memphis.

Wallace is the biggest idiot, Gasol earned the same

Exactly what I was thinking. They dump Pau Gasol because he was making too much and a year and a half later they trade for a lesser player with basically the same contract. Well, at least he doesn't have one of the worst attitudes in the league.

[TheMaverick]

Conley/Jaric
Mayo
Gay/Warrick/Young
Randolph/Arthur
Gasol/Thabeet

IMO, they are heading in the right direction

[MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs]

Originally Posted by TheMaverick

Conley/Jaric
Mayo
Gay/Warrick/Young
Randolph/Arthur
Gasol/Thabeet

IMO, they are heading in the right direction

Yeah everybody's getting better. I think if we stay put we may not even make the playoffs next year.

[TheMaverick]

If we sign Gortat, SnT for Artest, and re-sign Kidd, the offseason would be considered a huge success.

1. We would be keeping Gortat from landing with our competitors
2. Artest would bring a mentality to Dallas that has not been seen since NVE
3. Losing Kidd would be utterly disastrous.

Artest's deal = Stack 7 million + Bass 3 million (half of 6mil bc of BYC) for Artest 8-9 million + Cook 3 million

Kidd/Barea
Howard/Terry
Artest/Wright
Dirk/Singleton
Gortat/Damp

I would be ecstatic with that lineup.

If you want me to really get going, move Howard/Damp for Rip/Sheed but let's not get too greedy... yet.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by TheMaverick

Kidd/Barea
Howard/Terry
Artest/Wright
Dirk/Singleton
Gortat/Damp

I'd go to war with that lineup - they'd compete if Gortat can live up to the hype and nobody gets injured...

For the playoffs, remove Wright & Singleton from the equation - Howard can backup the 3 and Artest can backup the 4, which allows Terry to get more burn at the 2 (or even Barea, depending on the matchup...)