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Old 12-23-2023, 02:05 PM   #1
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Mavs are now 1-4 over last five with a tough schedule to finish the year-- five teams in six nights and this is the first B2B.

Mavs take on the Spurs tonight and actually may have a chance, which is good because we've already plummeted from 2nd to 8th in the west and still have Phoenix, Cleveland, and Minnie before the new year and if we lose all/most we will find ourselves on the outside looking in at the playoffs:

Good news: Luka will be back

Kyrie, Lively, Exum, Green, Kleber still out

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Exum upgraded to playing.

I guess Luka and Exum are now our superstars that get rest on B2Bs
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Id like to take this time to say that I can not stand D Harp! Hes wrong 10x a game and will say " you cant be getting ready, you have to be ready" 10x. Fk me. Bring back Devin

Also, DP shouldnt touch the floor until Kyrie comes back.
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Id like to take this time to say that I can not stand D Harp! Hes wrong 10x a game and will say " you cant be getting ready, you have to be ready" 10x. Fk me. Bring back Devin

Also, DP shouldnt touch the floor until Kyrie comes back.
Harper has been terrible for years. This franchise just loves their lovable guys!

Oh and don't lose to the 4-23 Spurs please. Thanks.
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Omax 20pts and Lawson beats him out as PF relief
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Id like to take this time to say that I can not stand D Harp! Hes wrong 10x a game and will say " you cant be getting ready, you have to be ready" 10x. Fk me. Bring back Devin

Also, DP shouldnt touch the floor until Kyrie comes back.

Not sure what else Holmes needs to do in order to move ahead of powell on the depth chart.

When kleber comes back that'll be another guy pushing Holmes further down the bench again.

Powell is pretty much untouchable as a mavs legend no matter how he plays
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Kidd just said that when the team is fully healthy they are going to start Luka, Kyrie, and Exum. The team is going to be fun, if they can get healthy.
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It seems pretty clear that Lawson has taken Green's spot and Exum has taken Hardy's.

Except the Mavs were silly enough to extend Green so they'll be forced to play him and move Lawson down the depth chart.

I still kinda feel bad for Hardy. He has played awful, but he really is in an unwinnable position right now.
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Lawson looks like a great fit for this team and I think Dennis will be the same.
Lawson knows his role and doesn't try to do too much like Green seems to do.
And I personally think Dennis can be developed into something special.

I don't understand why Prosper gets a virtual DNP after having a great performance. Sochan had the hot hand and Prosper would have been the perfect player to guard him imo.
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Lawson looks like a great fit for this team and I think Dennis will be the same.
Lawson knows his role and doesn't try to do too much like Green seems to do.
And I personally think Dennis can be developed into something special.

I don't understand why Prosper gets a virtual DNP after having a great performance. Sochan had the hot hand and Prosper would have been the perfect player to guard him imo.
And Holmes getting a DNP on a night when his face is on every flyer in the building.
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It seems pretty clear that Lawson has taken Green's spot and Exum has taken Hardy's.

Except the Mavs were silly enough to extend Green so they'll be forced to play him and move Lawson down the depth chart.

I still kinda feel bad for Hardy. He has played awful, but he really is in an unwinnable position right now.
I just don't see Hardy as a fit for this team and will struggle to ever find a niche.

I'm wondering if the Jazz would have any interest in some type of package deal for Hardy/Green. Remember they both went off with 29 points each against the Jazz last year right after the Kyrie trade and Luka was out.

Not sure what they have that would benefit us, but perhaps a 3rd team could get involved.
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And Holmes getting a DNP on a night when his face is on every flyer in the building.
I thought I read somewhere that Holmes was ill....could be wrong though.
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Kidd just said that when the team is fully healthy they are going to start Luka, Kyrie, and Exum. The team is going to be fun, if they can get healthy.
I definitely like them as the closing unit, but I'm not sure about the SL.

Luka/Kyrie is a lethal offense to start games and Exum/Hardaway can be just about as lethal with the 2nd unit.

The Mavs could be a serious contender if they could make a deal for a legit starting PF with size and a serviceable backup center with legit size.

Luka/Exum/Curry
Kyrie/Hardaway/Dennis
Jones/Williams/Lawson
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Thank goodness we have Exum under contract next season. A rare FA win for the FO.

Like, if Toronto wanted Exum as part of an Anunoby deal? I don't think I'm doing that.

Trade Green, Hardy, and whatever else you have to for that do it all starting 4. Draymond Green is the perfect fit if he didn't want to murder people. Something of that ilk is what we need though.
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I definitely like them as the closing unit, but I'm not sure about the SL.

Luka/Kyrie is a lethal offense to start games and Exum/Hardaway can be just about as lethal with the 2nd unit.

The Mavs could be a serious contender if they could make a deal for a legit starting PF with size and a serviceable backup center with legit size.

Luka/Exum/Curry
Kyrie/Hardaway/Dennis
Jones/Williams/Lawson
?/Prosper/Morris
Lively/?/Holmes
I like them just starting their best players, but Exum and THJ are a nice 2nd unit. It means that the Mavs might be set for guards. PF and backup C should be the focus, but DJJ seems like a fit offensively with those 4.
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I like them just starting their best players, but Exum and THJ are a nice 2nd unit. It means that the Mavs might be set for guards. PF and backup C should be the focus, but DJJ seems like a fit offensively with those 4.
What do you think about...

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It seems pretty clear that Lawson has taken Green's spot and Exum has taken Hardy's.

Except the Mavs were silly enough to extend Green so they'll be forced to play him and move Lawson down the depth chart.

I still kinda feel bad for Hardy. He has played awful, but he really is in an unwinnable position right now.
Green is best as a big ball-handler (primary/secondary) so I?d argue Exum usurped his spot

Lawson is being trained up as the new DFS? he plays almost exclusively PF with a few minutes at SF like Dodo.

Hardy? Best I could say is that his role was stolen by Curry, but I?m not really sure what Hardy even is. The NBA is strewn with the waste of incredibly talented guys who just don?t do those 1-2 things right that they need to succeed. Hardy isn?t a primary ballhandler. He?s not a pure shooter. I?d say his best chance is as a spark plug sixth man scorer but he continues to struggle in limited minutes. Jordan Clarkson is what I?d love him to be, but Clarkson comes out 4-5. Hardy routinely starts 1-4 and has to work himself into a rhythm. Behind Luka and Kyrie, his best bet is 8minutes of scorching scoring but he seems unable to be efficient unless he?s given 20+ min

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Reminder that Hardy is only 21, but it?s like he can?t dribble anymore. Idk what?s happened sophomore slump, but I think there?s trade value there if someone was looking for off the bench shooter.
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Erica you going to the Suns Mavs game?
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Will Luka play? It's just such a crap shoot this season to actually see these stars in action.

Like Wemby injuring his ankle on a ball boy is just stupid. People pay good money to come see him.
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Yes!

I was originally upset because there's only one game in Phoenix this year and we were going to be in San Francisco for the holiday but then our cat ran away in the rain and all the San Fran family got Covid so we'll be around. Going to be in section 102.
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It seems pretty clear that Lawson has taken Green's spot and Exum has taken Hardy's.

Except the Mavs were silly enough to extend Green so they'll be forced to play him and move Lawson down the depth chart.

I still kinda feel bad for Hardy. He has played awful, but he really is in an unwinnable position right now.
I think Exum has over taken Grant. If Kidd did say the Luka, Kyrie and Exum are starting that leaves out Grant assuming DJJ is at the 4.

Who knows wtf Kidd has going on in that head.
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Lively upgraded questionable

Kyrie ?approaching? return but out.
Green and Kleber just out
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Kyrie ?approaching? return but out.
Green and Kleber just out
You lucky mofo get to see Lively. Merry Christmas indeed...
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I was originally upset because there's only one game in Phoenix this year and we were going to be in San Francisco for the holiday but then our cat ran away in the rain and all the San Fran family got Covid so we'll be around. Going to be in section 102.
Sorry to hear about covid, but send the team some good luck while you?re there. Enjoy!
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Nurk out again.

Hopefully that means Lively gets his first 20-20 game
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I think Collins probably pushes DJJ to back up 4.
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Tmac just tweeted that Kidd says that Exum and DJJ will be the starters once Kyrie comes back, so Grant is going to the second unit, apparently.
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Yeah, Kidd says Luka, Kyrie, Dante, DJJ, and Lively will be the starters.
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Yeah, Kidd says Luka, Kyrie, Dante, DJJ, and Lively will be the starters.
I guess if the rotations are managed properly, it wouldn't be a bad idea to try.

DJJ is becoming very comfortable and looking good as a starter with Luka.
Williams will probably be better coming off the bench.

Still think we need a starter caliber PF with decent size and a big backup center.
Maxi is basically done, and Prosper is a year away from being a rotation guy, so we need someone to fill that gap.
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Thank goodness we have Exum under contract next season. A rare FA win for the FO.

Like, if Toronto wanted Exum as part of an Anunoby deal? I don't think I'm doing that.

Trade Green, Hardy, and whatever else you have to for that do it all starting 4. Draymond Green is the perfect fit if he didn't want to murder people. Something of that ilk is what we need though.
Trade Green and Hardy for Desmond Bane. I am sure Memphis would jump at that kind of value.
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I guess if the rotations are managed properly, it wouldn't be a bad idea to try.

DJJ is becoming very comfortable and looking good as a starter with Luka.
Williams will probably be better coming off the bench.

Still think we need a starter caliber PF with decent size and a big backup center.
Maxi is basically done, and Prosper is a year away from being a rotation guy, so we need someone to fill that gap.
If we can get Isaiah Stewart, it would be a pretty versatile pick up for PF/C position. Good defender and rebounder and hustles. It would be a passable move IMO. He isnt bumping Livelys minites and it should keep DP and Maxi off the court.
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I want just one game where Hardy isn?t $&@$ing terrible
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